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Re: 5.10.4 from-page-master-region discrepancy?

Glenn Adams — 2012-04-30T15:19:20

No, I don't believe so: simple-page-master does not generate any area. It
is page-sequence which generates the region viewport/reference pairs.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Amick, Eric <Eric.Amick< at >mail.house.gov>wrote:

RE: 5.10.4 from-page-master-region discrepancy?

Amick, Eric — 2012-04-30T12:13:50

I may be misreading, but since a page-sequence is not a descendant of a page-sequence, doesn’t the paragraph before the one you cited cover this situation?

The computed value of the designated property is taken from that property on the layout formatting object being used to generate the region viewport/reference area pair.

In other words, the value comes from the simple-page-master called all-pages.

Eric Amick   Systems Engineer II
Legislative Computer Systems

From: Glenn Adams [mailto:glenn< at >skynav.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:13
To: www-xsl-fo< at >w3.org; xsl-editors< at >w3.org
Subject: 5.10.4 from-page-master-region discrepancy?

In XSL-FO 1.1, 5.10.4, appears:

"If this function is used in an expression on a formatting object, F, that is a descendant of an fo:page-sequence, then the computed value is taken from the region specification that was used to generate the nearest ancestor region reference area which has as its descendants the areas returned by F."

However, this is fol

5.10.4 from-page-master-region discrepancy?

Glenn Adams — 2012-04-21T16:12:48

In XSL-FO 1.1, 5.10.4, appears:

"If this function is used in an expression on a formatting object, F, that
is a descendant of an fo:page-sequence, then the computed value is taken
from the region specification that was used to generate the nearest
ancestor region reference area which has as its descendants the areas
returned by F."

However, this is followed by an example where "this function"
(from-page-master-region) is used on fo:page-sequence, and not a descendant
of fo:page-sequence!

<fo:page-sequence master-name="default-sequence"
                  writing-mode="from-page-master-region()">


How is this example to be reconciled with the normative language cited
above about being "used in an expression ... that is a descendant of an
fo:page-sequence"?

Regards,
Glenn

7.22.2 overflow: :request to support of text-overflow

Adrian Stadelmann — 2012-03-22T15:31:59

Hi,
It whould be very helpful to use a text-overflow as in
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ui/#text-overflow0

why:
the overflow="hidden" is not very useful for a print media in case of text, because it may cut a letter.

Doing this outside of the FO namespace is also a bad solution because it requires font size/style calculation.

see also my http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9807926/add-suspensive-dots-at-end-of-a-text-in-case-of-overflow-hidden question.

other ideas?

Adrian

Re: Permission Request for 'Transformations XSL (XSLT...'

Liam R E Quin — 2012-03-17T01:29:23

First, this is the 1999 version of XSLT (XSLT 1.0); you might want XSLT
2 instead.

Second, this document was written in English; it has been translated to
French. The original is at http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt - you should
translate the version that is on w3.org if possible. It is a lot of
work!

xmlfr.org is owned by Eric van der Vlist and is not affiliated with W3C.

Liam

Re: Permission Request for 'Transformations XSL (XSLT...'

Michael Kay — 2012-03-16T08:50:34

Thank you for volunteering your efforts. You can find information about 
the W3C translation process at

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Translation/

which explains how you should ensure that your efforts are coordinated.

Michael Kay
Saxonica
(personal response)


On 15/03/2012 14:48, John Obri wrote:

Permission Request for 'Transformations XSL (XSLT...'

John Obri — 2012-03-15T14:48:11

Hello,

I've known you website for ages! And I found interesting your  
publication "Transformations XSL (XSLT)" which I googled on  
http://xmlfr.org/w3c/TR/xslt/ ! I'd love to use it in a project I'm  
involved with called "Geek Science", so I'm seeking your permission for  
translation to Macedonian language. "Geek Science" is a freemium-model  
non-English language orientated startup with collection of scientific  
articles, personal notes etc. in several languages that is collaboratively  
edited by volunteers from around the world since 1999. Young and old,  
students and professors - even your neighbor could be a volunteer member.

If you agree, we will credit you for your work in the resulting  
translation's references by stating that it was based on your work and is  
used with your permission, and by mentioning the name of my project "Geek  
Science" back to:
http://xmlfr.org/w3c/TR/xslt/

Thank you for your time and patience.
I look forward to your response next week.

---
Best wishes,
John Obri

[Bug 7563] initial caps: Need a clear description of margins, spacing, and initial caps

2011-08-18T15:53:09

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7563

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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         Resolution|                            |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> 2011-08-18 15:53:08 UTC ---
The WG has agreed we don't need more text about this, it's the same as overflow
anywhere else.

[Bug 7563] initial caps: Need a clear description of margins, spacing, and initial caps

2011-08-18T15:53:23

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7563

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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[Bug 13828] New: ICC reference may be out of date

2011-08-18T14:47:25

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13828

           Summary: ICC reference may be out of date
           Product: XSLFO
           Version: 2.0 Working Draft
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: XSL-FO
        AssignedTo: tgraham< at >mentea.net
        ReportedBy: tgraham< at >mentea.net
         QAContact: xsl-editors< at >w3.org


SVG Color 1.2 uses:

[ICC42]
    International Color Consortium. Specification ICC.1:2004-10 (Profile
version 4.2.0.0) Image technology colour management â Architecture, profile
format, and data structure.
    Available at http://www.color.org/ICC1V42.pdf

[Bug 13827] New: Do cie-lab-color() and cie-lchab-color() need optional white point?

2011-08-18T14:33:18

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13827

           Summary: Do cie-lab-color() and cie-lchab-color() need optional
                    white point?
           Product: XSLFO
           Version: 2.0 Working Draft
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: XSL-FO
        AssignedTo: tgraham< at >mentea.net
        ReportedBy: tgraham< at >mentea.net
         QAContact: xsl-editors< at >w3.org


XSL FO 2.0's cie-lab-color() and cie-lchab-color() [1] are meant to be
compatible with what can be expressed in SVG Color 1.2 [2].

The cielab() and cielchab() functions in SVG Color 1.2 both have an option
white point parameter.

Should XSL FO 2.0 have this parameter in its functions?

Regards,


Tony Graham.


[1] http://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2009/03/xslfo20.html#d2e7142
[2] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/color/master/SVGColor.html

[Bug 13804] New: Is normative rgb-icc() prototype wrong?

2011-08-17T11:05:12

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13804

           Summary: Is normative rgb-icc() prototype wrong?
           Product: XSLFO
           Version: 1.1
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: XSL-FO
        AssignedTo: tgraham< at >mentea.net
        ReportedBy: tgraham< at >mentea.net
         QAContact: xsl-editors< at >w3.org


The rgb-icc() prototype [1] in the normative HTML for XSL 1.1 is:

color rgb-icc(numeric, numeric, numeric, NCName, numeric, numeric)

However, the non-normative XML source [2] for XSL 1.1 contains:

<proto name="rgb-icc" return-type="color"><arg type="numeric"/><arg
type="numeric"/>
<arg type="numeric"/><arg type="NCName"/><arg type="numeric"/><arg
type="numeric" occur="rep"/></proto>

I.e., the 'occur="rep"' on the last <arg> does not make it any different from
an <arg> without it.

In contrast 'occur="opt"' adds a "?" after the argument in the rendered
prototype.  E.g., in 'system-f

[Bug 7562] initial caps - allow auto for font-size?

2011-08-11T16:01:29

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7562

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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[Bug 7566] Clarify relationship between marginalia and footnotes

2011-08-11T15:27:31

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7566

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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[Bug 7566] Clarify relationship between marginalia and footnotes

2011-08-11T15:27:08

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7566

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> 2011-08-11 15:27:08 UTC ---
WG decided not to offer dynamic marginalia regions. Use side-floats instead.

[Bug 7565] marginalia: extension regions, or multple region bodies?

2011-08-11T15:24:30

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7565

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |CLOSED

[Bug 7565] marginalia: extension regions, or multple region bodies?

2011-08-11T15:23:59

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7565

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> 2011-08-11 15:23:59 UTC ---
Closed. A misunderstanding (Fabio)

[Bug 7564] should it be possible to direct marginalia to othr regions?

2011-08-11T15:22:00

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7564

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #1 from Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> 2011-08-11 15:22:00 UTC ---
No.

[Bug 7564] should it be possible to direct marginalia to othr regions?

2011-08-11T15:22:43

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7564

Liam R E Quin <liam< at >w3.org> changed:

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[Bug 13406] New: "caption-side" should be "Extended" conformance level

2011-07-28T12:26:50

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13406

           Summary: "caption-side" should be "Extended" conformance level
           Product: XSLFO
           Version: 1.1
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: XSL-FO
        AssignedTo: tgraham< at >mentea.net
        ReportedBy: tgraham< at >mentea.net
         QAContact: xsl-editors< at >w3.org


The "caption-side" property [1] is listed in section B.3 [2], Property Table:
Part II, as having "Complete" conformance level.  It should be "Extended"
conformance level.

"caption-side" applies only to fo:table-and-caption [3], where it "specifies
the position of the caption box with respect to the table box."  The "caption
box" is the optional fo:table-caption [4] child of fo:table-and-caption.

fo:table-and-caption has "Basic" conformance level [5], and fo:table-caption
has "Extended" conformance level [5], but there's little point implementing
fo:table-caption without

[Bug 7565] marginalia: extension regions, or multple region bodies?

2011-07-07T17:03:38

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7565

--- Comment #1 from Tony Graham <Tony.Graham< at >MenteithConsulting.com> 2011-07-07 17:03:37 UTC ---
The description for this bug is mistaken that 'everything' is computed relative
to the page.

'change-bar-offset' (http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl11/#change-bar-offset) is computed
relative to "the edge of the column area containing the text that is marked as
changed", and the direction of the 'change-bar-offset' is such that "[a]
positive distance is directed away from the column region and into the margin".

So there is a precedent for defining a distance relative to an area rather than
relative to the page.