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Short-term office desk

Malthe Borch — 2008-09-07T17:17:43

Hey list, –– I'll be in Washington for the next one and a half months and I'd like to inquire if any of you have a desk available in your office/department that I could occupy (with due compensation of course). Any location within the metropolitan area would be great. \malthe

Re: OT: beer

Alex Clark — 2008-09-07T02:15:52

Don't forget to CC the meetup, he might be on there! On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:18:43PM -0400, Dustin J. Mitchell wrote:

OT: beer

Dustin J. Mitchell — 2008-09-06T19:18:43

Well, I suppose that beer, in and of itself, is rather *on*-topic for this group. But my request is not. *Twice* I have attended a ZPUGDC meeting, and *twice* I have discussed homebrewing with Ian, but *zero* times have I learned any means to contact him. So: a 22oz Octoberfest for anyone who can put us in touch. Ian, you're eligible for the prize, too :) Dustin

Looking for a developer

Brian Wolf — 2008-09-05T18:47:00

My firm is looking for a seasoned Plone developer for a short-term assignment as a consultant. Please contact me if interested. Thanks. Brian

repoze.bfg tonight FTW!

Alex Clark — 2008-09-02T16:42:51

Hi all, Tonight, Chris McDonough: ex-Zope Corporation Luminary unveils his BFG (Big ****ing Gun) which: (excerpt from http://static.repoze.org/bfgdocs/index.html) - is a Python web application framework. - is inspired by Zope’s publisher, though it is less ambitious in scope. - relies heavily on Zope libraries and WSGI. Woo Hoo! My favorite thing about repoze.bfg is: (excerpt from from http://static.repoze.org/bfgdocs/narr/introduction.html#why) - Familiarity: As web developers, we’ve become accustomed to working in very particular ways (primarily using Zope 2) over the years. This framework is a canonization of practices that “fit our brains”. We are also celebrating approximately 1 month left until _Plone Conference 2008_ at the Ronald Reagan Building in DC (and sprint at Arlington Career Center in VA). See you tonight! http://zpugdc.org/meetings/mtg67

Re: Labor Day Weekend Visit

Alex Clark — 2008-08-30T19:29:59

Hi Chris, I'll meet you in front of Hotel Harrington at 5:00PM! Anyone else joining? The more the merrier! Alex On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:33:22PM -0400, Chris Calloway wrote:

Re: Looking for python/django developers

Alex Clark — 2008-08-30T12:06:58

Hi Dave, You might also try the Python meetup, CC'd http://python.meetup.com/176/ Alex On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 02:42:58PM -0400, David Adewumi wrote:

Looking for python/django developers

David Adewumi — 2008-08-29T18:42:58

HI all, My name is David Adewumi, founder of a startup called Heekya. We were part of the LaunchboxDigital program. (based in DC) We're currently looking for python/django developers -- let me know if you're interested. Cheers,

Labor Day Weekend Visit

Chris Calloway — 2008-08-28T18:33:22

Hi ZPUGDC, I'm going to be visiting DC this weekend to meet up with aclark, Matt B., Jeff E. et al, for some Plone Conference planning exercises. I'd like to meet ZPUGDC people (and see TriZPUG boot camp alumni again) while in town, particularly around dinner time on Saturday and Sunday. I think I'll be going out with some ZPUGDC and Plone Conference planning people. We'll try to keep this list and #zpugdc posted as to times and places. But my cell number is below. You can call and I should know more of the plan later in the day each day. See you this weekend.

Re: Transition Advice

Alex Clark — 2008-08-22T02:28:39

I find it most useful in e-copy form, to search for specific terms and get good code examples back. While it is complex, I still recommend it for that reason. That and, *cough*, PACKT is one of our sponsors for Plone Conference 2008 ;-)

Re: Transition Advice

Joel Burton — 2008-08-20T01:18:21

Absolutely. If you are learning from Martin's book, that's great--but it's helpful to try out the new paster recipes in ZopeSkel, too, as those are more up-to-date, commented, and considered "standard practice". Also, feel free to try http://paster.joelburton.com. which provides a nice web front-end onto this ;) buildout rocks. It's a bit hard-going for beginners, but I think that's going to fix itself with the new buildout-based installers for 3.2. It has such lovely promise for new-to-Plone people. SteveM is making fantatic progress on the unified installer for 3.2. Best, - j.

Re: Transition Advice

David Diskin — 2008-08-19T23:25:31

Joel - Thanks much for the great and thorough reply! You're the best! Glad to hear there are more Plone-3 books being planned. I too had bought Martin's book but quickly saw it was nothing like McKay's and pitched at way too high a level. I'll definitely look into your pre- conference course. Thanks again. David On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Joel Burton wrote:

Re: Transition Advice

Chris Shenton — 2008-08-19T23:09:01

Thanks for voicing that, especially the last -- I thought it was just me. "Type in these 4 pages of incantations and poof -- a syntax error", or "poof, it doesn't work because you used an underscore instead of a space in the ZCML, but a space instead of an underscore in the Interface". Silent failure is very very frustrating to debug. Very appealing. I tried using ZopeSkel to create an Archetype and content type recently, and it really helped with the aspeli-esque boilerplate. But it still doesn't feel very Zope3 componenty. Buildout has saved our bacon: we started with hand-groan [sic] scripts, then buildit, then settled on buildout. It can grow to handle big big projects. But you can start small, like with the one the Unified Installer provides. There are other non-Plone projects I've got that I'd like to wrap with buildout for repeatable deployment. It's good stuff. Definitely worth learning. Thanks for the pointer!

Re: Transition Advice

Joel Burton — 2008-08-19T22:07:21

It doesn't talk about migration. And, IMHO, it's not a terribly great book. It's quite advanced and makes very strong assumptions about your level of expertise in Python, Zope, and Plone. It's full of hand-waving ("now, type in these 4 pages of XML and--see?--it works!") But it is the only Plone-3 specific book out right now. Several more are slated over the next year. A lot depends on how much "Plone 3" you mean. You can build a Plone site with straightforward Archetypes, normal ZPTs, etc., and do it almost exactly the same way under Plone 3 as under Plone 2.x. (And converting existing AT products requires just a one-line fix in most cases). All of that stuff works just great and is still the core way to build things in Plone 3. However, you can also see "Plone 3" as "learning to make your own new style portlets [not that that's needed often], learning to re-think your code into reusable Zope3 components, learning to do all your development with buildout/eggs/etc". And so on. In which case, there can b

Re: Transition Advice

Jimmy Small — 2008-08-19T21:42:43

Martin Aspeli has written a book that is very much geared to Plone 3.x. http://www.packtpub.com/Professional-Plone-web-applications-CMS/book Check it out. I might also answer questions about 2.5->3.0 but I am not sure. Cheers, Jimmy On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:40 PM, David Diskin public.gmane.org>wrote:

Transition Advice

David Diskin — 2008-08-18T22:40:05

hi everyone, I have not yet had the opportunity to do any work with Plone 3.x. However, I would like to upgrade a site now running 2.1 to 3.x sometime this fall and also am about to start a new project soon - it's a very simple site (at least to start) and may take a crack at 3.x then. My questions are: * Are there any books or good documentation that smooth the transition from the 2.1 or 2.5 (have done some sites with 2.5) to 3.x? Is there the equivalent to McKay's "The Definitive Guide to Plone"? It would be fantastic if he or someone else would update that book! * Any advice about how to learn 3.x? * This is for Joel - sorry I missed the bootcamp in July. Any other such courses planned? Is there a course specifically for someone who is not new to plone but wants to learn 3.x? * How bad is the migration from 2.5? from 2.1? Thanks much. David

Slides area returns to zpugdc.org. Buildbot slides available!

Alex Clark — 2008-08-08T01:09:16

Hi all, After two years, I finally got annoyed enough to secure shell into zpugdc.org and investigate the problem with adding content of type 'File' in Plone. The result: Slides from last meetings presentation on Buildbot, by Dustin J. Mitchell: http://zpugdc.org/meetings/slides/continuous_integrationwithbuildbot.pdf Enjoy! (For those that are curious, http://paste.plone.org/23048 fixed by just creating an application.png in the cmf skin layer path...)

Buildbot meeting tonight!

Alex Clark — 2008-08-05T18:29:41

Hi all, Eric Coffman and Matt Bowen will be your hosts tonight for Dustin J. Mitchell's talk on buildbot at TNC: http://zpugdc.org/meetings/mtg66 The Agenda, as per usual, will be: 7:00PM Introduction 7:05PM Around the room Python Chat - Tell us your current favorite Python-related technology. 7:30PM Buildbot talk by Dustin Mitchell. 8:30PM Other stuff - Lightning talks, etc. 9:00PM Rio Grande. I am unable to attend tonight, but I'll be back next month, which will be just one month shy of Plone Conference 2008! (Sessions were just announced, by the way: http://tinyurl.com/5cfs7n)

Re: Python classes at HacDC

Kevin Cole — 2008-07-29T17:51:10

Nope. That was posted sort of out of the blue from a thread going on the HacDC mailing list. I sorta thought that would be clear from context, but I guess not. One Laptop Per Child Learning Club of DC (OLPC LCDC). See http://olpclearningclub.org/ Where: HacDC, St. Stephen's Church, 16th & Newton NW. See http://hacdc.org/ and http://wiki.hacdc.org/ Who: I'm not certain. Open: I believe the intent is to have them open to the public.

Re: Re: Python classes at HacDC

Kevin Dwyer — 2008-07-29T17:32:17

I was there for that presentation. It was very entertaining. Obviously you need to branch off into Missile Command after you shoot lasers at halloween ghosts. -kpd

Re: Python classes at HacDC

Kevin Cole — 2008-07-29T17:24:46

Last time. I promise (for at least a few hours). Details from the PyCon site: http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/talks/ 9. Using PyGame and PySight to Create an Interactive Halloween Activity Mr. John Harrison (Insight Industries) 30min, Beginner (animation, games, laser, python newbie, web cam) Discussion of using PyGame and PySight together with a projector and a laser pointer to create video games controlled entirely through shining a laser on the projection surface. Presentation will include a look at performance concerns, calibration, and implementation issues. As this was a first time Python project some attention will be paid to difficulties in getting started and the material will be relevant to those new to Python as well as those interested in the specific technologies involved. Audience members will be allowed to play the game at the end of the presentation and source code to the game will be provided.