http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58066 <pre> The answer which I have been finding preferred, over and over, is Ledger. http://ledger-cli.org/ [1] It's not notably amenable to multi-user usage, but there's not much need for that with small businesses, is there? If it's a small business, there isn't a need for multiple accountants, right? The data is readily human-readable without any need to run it through any special software, which is *notably* valuable when dealing with a professional accountant. They're likely to be keen on only two answers: a) Use "My Favorite Piece Of Software," which is most likely QuickBooks, and you'll fight with that answer at considerable peril that might include the accountant telling you to go away, or b) Let's review the output in detail, in which case ledger data should prove pretty easy to work with. [1] See also... http://hledger.org/ https://github.com/jwiegley/beancount https://github.com/jwiegley/ledger https://github.com/iterationlabs/reckon There is an Emacs, mode, of course! https://github.com/jwiegley/</pre> Christopher Browne 2012-05-25T17:03:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58065 <pre> We've used SqlLedger for years and it's pretty decent and stable, and made in CAN. I've heard the fork: LedgerSMB is pretty good as well. Cheers, </pre> Alejandro Imass 2012-05-25T02:03:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58064 <pre>I second the FreshBooks suggestion, but I also work for them, so I'm a touch biased :) We are local to Toronto, and we have free M-F 9-6 support where you'll talk to real people instead of recordings and automated operators. Oh, and as David mentioned, our basic plan is free forever, and includes the same support as the paid version. AND it works great in Firefox and Chromium/Chrome on Linux. -jason PS: We are hiring for a senior *NIX sysadmin/devops position, *hint*hint*. http://www.freshbooks.com/careers/ On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM, David van Geest &lt;david.vangeest-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;wrote: </pre> Jason Shaw 2012-05-24T21:06:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58063 <pre> Mine changed recently too. I my address used to start with 99, now 174. What happened is your lease expired at a time that was inconvenient and you were given the new address. I didn't notice until I was checking the IP address for other reasons. At least with Rogers, unlike some of the other providers, the addresses change so seldom they're virtually static. The host name is static, so long as you don't change the hardware. I have a DNS alias that points to the long host name I get from Rogers. Perhaps they've got some changes occurring that required new addresses. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> James Knott 2012-05-24T20:56:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58062 <pre>Mike, We have been using LedgerSMB here. It works ok. If you want, you can come by and take a look. But I think the 2n requirement -- large community in Ontario -- won't fit. You can also try Wave Accounting. Sent from my mobile On 2012-05-24, at 14:32, William Park &lt;opengeometry-FFYn/CNdgSA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> Sammy Lao 2012-05-24T20:45:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58061 <pre>Spreadsheet? ----- Original Message ----- -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> William Park 2012-05-24T18:31:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58060 <pre>One more reason to hate Rogers cable internet: they changed my IP number today while my DHCP lease was still alive. I wondered why networking wasn't. -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> D. Hugh Redelmeier 2012-05-24T18:11:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58059 <pre>Hi Mike, I've been using GNUcash for some years now. You might search freecode and order by popularity. </pre> Neil Watson 2012-05-24T17:33:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58058 <pre> I've been using Freshbooks (http://www.freshbooks.com/) which has worked quite well for my (very simple) needs.  It's free up to a certain number of clients.  The company is based out of Toronto, and I think it's pretty popular.  Worth checking out to see if its a good fit. They do have a referral program, which apparently would get me 25% cash commission.  Not sure what it would do for you, if anything.  Let me know if you want a link. -David -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> David van Geest 2012-05-24T17:30:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58057 <pre>Hey Everyone, I'm curious about experiences and recommendations with small business accounting/bookkeeping software. This is a new area for me, so packages or services with pointers to good documentation and a community of Ontario small business people using it would be a huge plus. I'm thinking FOSS of course, but online services work too. Thanks, -Mike -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> Mike Kallies 2012-05-24T16:10:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58056 <pre> It's absolutely rock-solid now, and almost always does a better job automatically than if I go in manually and try to fix things. I use it for photomontages at work, so I hae many examples, but all of nothing in particular ... cheers, Stewart -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> Stewart C. Russell 2012-05-24T11:44:05 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58055 <pre>Hi all: I'm going to be wast^H^H^H^H spending some time at Linuxcaffe on Sunday afternoon, 27 May. Starting maybe as early as 2:00pm; ending maybe as late as 6:00pm (anybody know what the actual Sunday hours are?) Thanx to Canonical, Ubuntu-Canada and Darcy, I'll have some shiny new Precise Pangolin (Ubuntu 12.04) CDs to give away. Hope to see you there! Linuxcaffe 326 Harbord St (corner of Grace St.) Toronto, ON M6G3G8 Map: http://osm.org/go/ZX6BaIRO--?m --Bob. </pre> Bob Jonkman 2012-05-23T19:04:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58054 <pre>Great news for fans of photography who use Linux or FOSS: Hugin has improved dramatically since I last used it. Hugin is a photo-stitcher/panorama-maker. In my previous experiences with it (which go back about five years), it was initially incomprehensible and unusable, then tricky and in desperate need of hand-holding (you had to point out to it every place where two photos matched), then crash-prone and still in need of hand-holding. But this morning, having not used it in perhaps a year, I handed it four photos and it said "is this what you wanted them to look like?" It got it in one. And it did it twice more, no hand-holding. That's not a long enough session for me to feel sure it's no longer crash-prone, but it's seriously got its stuff together on matching pictures. The next big test is to pass it a vertical pano, or a horizontal pano composed of vertical ratio images (I could never get that to work in the past). Or a bunch of overlapping images in both directions. But the ease of use on basic </pre> Giles Orr 2012-05-23T15:17:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58053 <pre> If you get a popular model and it has support in the kernel tree from Linus, then you should have long term support. I would actually think constant churn in models is what causes lack of support for a design. So I would consider the VIA design among the least desirable on that basis. </pre> Lennart Sorensen 2012-05-23T15:10:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58052 <pre> Offers NO REASONABLE OFFER REFUSED First reasonable offer takes it. Telephone 647 974 2769 Email billhenderson-GANU6spQydw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org -- The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/ TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists </pre> torfree-GANU6spQydw< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-23T14:46:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58051 <pre> My needs are disk-bound. My tower, power supply, motherboard, cpu, and ram are just there to serve my harddisks. VIA board is nice, but not very useful without more SATA ports! Since we're developers, size doesn't matter too much. Just take your regular ATX motherboard, put ARM cpu there, put more SATA ports, take out whatever not needed! </pre> William Park 2012-05-23T05:08:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58050 <pre>On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Lennart Sorensen &lt;lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: What is irritating with the typical ARM system vendors is that they seem to set up designs as a one-shot, "that's what it'll always be" thing. In the embedded space, that's certainly a tempting thing to do, as embedded integrators don't want to be changing specs of hardware much, that's mighty painful to do. But it tends to lead to vendors holding to one model for much longer than they ought to, until long after betternewerfaster stuff has overshadowed it. It is encouraging to me that VIA is doing this; they have been in the habit of designing motherboards and chipsets that have fairly frequent refresh cycles for their designs; it seems less likely that they will fall into that trap. Agreed. A bit sad... At least 2GB is a pretty material amount of memory. Mobile phones commonly don't have that much :-) </pre> Christopher Browne 2012-05-22T23:19:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58049 <pre> Not very many systems with multiple ethernet ports unfortunately. I am looking forward to having a silent low power but completely full hd capable frontend. Potentially a problem, but that is true of all computers. I don't think so. SATA is the native interface of the harddisk. I don't think you will ever see a harddisk with native USB3. External enclosures sure. It is much more complex to implement USB handshaking and boot than SATA is. SATA isn't going anywhere. Well ARM being 32bit (still) you are not going to see 4GB+ ram on one. This is changing of course but it will be a few more years. 64bit ARM is coming, as is 32bit ARM with PAE like support for extra ram. It's a problem yes. At least someone is working on open source drivers for the ARM MALI 200/400 video core. No such luck for the AMD design on my i.mx53. microSD takes care of flash letting you pick the size. Being unbrickable is rather nice, which is becoming quite common on arm designs now. </pre> Lennart Sorensen 2012-05-22T18:17:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58048 <pre> I _hate_ their model name. When working with ARM Coretex designs, where you have Cortex A8, Cortex A9, do _not_ go making a Cortex A8 design and name it A10. That's just obnoxious. Well personally I have an i.mx53 quick start board, which I got for $100 US (plus $50 for the hdmi interface that I wanted). I also intend to get the cubox to use as a mythtv frontend. The i.mx53 is to play with and help the debian armhf port work. It has 1GB ram and is quite fast, even though it is only a Cortex A8. A Cortex A9 would be quite a bit faster still. I would love to get a hold of an i.mx6 based board, but I don't know of the devel boards are out yet or how much they would be. I think most of the arm boards don't have enough ram. To me, less than 1GB is just a mistake. SATA support is pretty much essential, and I would really like gigabit ethernet, although I suppose 100Mbit could do. Digital video output is also nice, unless it is just a server, in which case serial is fine. Analog VGA is of no interest </pre> Lennart Sorensen 2012-05-22T18:11:57 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58047 <pre>| From: Scott Sullivan &lt;scott-lxSQFCZeNF4&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Thanks for this email. (And thanks, Lennart, for mentioning the Cubox). | With the market going the way it is, I'd like to hear from GTALUGers. | | 1) What they would be doing with these devices? Lots of little things. Perhaps: - file server - internet gateway - myth client Strengths: low power, quiet, small. | 2) What would you expect in term of support before you try one? I want all my friends to have one so that I don't have to figure out the gotchas on my own. That's one reason your message is heartening. It would be nice if the product looked to be part of a continuing series. Eventually, any box will be obsolete. | 3) What feature set do you think these boards/systems should be targeting? At | what price would you pay for that feature set? Features I'd like for at least some applications: - I'd like multiple ethernet interfaces to make router's possible. I've now got a work-around for that. - I'd like gigabit ethernet sinc</pre> D. Hugh Redelmeier 2012-05-22T17:44:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug/58046 <pre># Via APC Via has just recently announced a Neo-ITX form factor (drops into any miniITX or microATX) Android PC board. It is expected to retail around the $49 price point. http://apc.io/about/ http://www.viagallery.com/Subcategory/apc.aspx While the lack of SATA and/or miniPCIe leaves a something to be desired, I find it interesting to see a major board designer getting into this low cost ARM system market. # Mele A1000/A2000 Personally, I just received last week my Mele A1000. http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mele-1080p-android-2-3-internet-tv-set-top-box-w-wifi-optical-3-x-usb-hdmi-av-lan-sd-119913 It's got a very full feature set at a reasonable price. Allwinner, the makers of the A10 SoC are open-source friendly and have released all the source code. There are now workable Debian and Ubuntu Images for this device. http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ The A2000 is the same main=board with a smaller case and no HDD enclosure. The specs for it on Dealextreme are just wr</pre> Scott Sullivan 2012-05-22T17:26:20 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.user-groups.linux.tolug