http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60742 well, I always pass over all the perl script goodies, ... maybe I need to give LFM a try.. thanks! I originally just bought it for the DVDs. The Debian DVD saved my hide.. my system crashed, and wouldn't reload SUSE, so I pulled out the Debian DVD and loaded it.. never looked back! Paul Cartwright 2008-08-21T17:10:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60741 <snipped> i always thought LFM was a geared to a more 'casual' audience than Pro so 'better' is a relative term. now that i am settled i need to renew my subscription. Preston Boyington 2008-08-21T16:32:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60740 I get Linux Pro Magazine, is Linux format better? It (LFM) is a UK mag, and they both have DVDs with them.. just asking.. Paul Cartwright 2008-08-21T16:10:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60739 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Harold Bieber 2008-08-21T15:49:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60738 Vindy - Thanks for the note. No, I'm not familiar with 'nx' - I'll have a look. That said, (1) my issues are with the window manager, not the server, and (2) I've somehow avoided setup hassles. (Maybe I should try Ubuntu! &8-) - Mills On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Vindy wrote: John Mills 2008-08-21T12:56:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60737 <snipped> any chance of getting a scan of the stickers? there's no place within a two hour drive that sells LF. :( Preston Boyington 2008-08-21T12:34:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60736 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Jim Kinney 2008-08-21T12:36:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60735 Speaking of evil, did any one notice this on Slashdot? Flash Ads Launching Clipboard Hijack Attacks http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/20/0029220 Apparently designed to target both IE and Firefox on any platform. I was disappointed to see the demo also works with Konqueror. No big deal if your paying attention and you only have to close the tab not the browser to stop it. But Konqueror!? <sniff> William Bagwell 2008-08-21T09:10:14 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60734 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Daniel Kahn Gillmor 2008-08-21T05:04:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60733 Great Ink Pen strip in today's comics... ( attached if we allow attachments ) peace aaron _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale aaron 2008-08-20T19:22:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60732 Today's Ink Pen strip was "spot on"... peace aaron _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale aaron 2008-08-21T03:55:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60731 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Pat Regan 2008-08-21T03:01:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60730 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Pat Regan 2008-08-21T02:58:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60729 Hey John Clinton! Nice to hear a keepalive from an old coworker. I'm working from Atlanta office now but I guess I just missed ya. -----Original Message----- From: ale-bounces-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org on behalf of John Clinton Sent: Wed 8/20/2008 6:50 PM To: ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [ale] Robust Reverse Tunnels via SSH Greg, I use reverse tunnels as a primary means of access and have little issues with it. To keep the connection alive, I run a "keepalive" script that merely runs ls, sleeps 60 seconds and repeats on the target host. I also fork the ssh process in the background and have TCPKeepAlive set to yes in my ssh config. My ssh config has all my RemoteForwards statements. My command line is: ssh -f target_host "~/keepalive.sh" The other thing I did but does not seem to work properly is I have a 5min cronjob that looks for my ssh process. If the process is not found it runs the command above. This is little tacky but it seems to work for me. John On Wed, Aug 20 Thomas, Dave 2008-08-21T02:09:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60728 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale John Clinton 2008-08-21T01:50:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60727 Very interesting, but the most interesting part is the author. I thought her name looked familiar, then I remembered that Laura DiDio was a particularly vocal, if clueless, supporter of SCO during its recent legal bullying of Linux users. A Wikipedia search on her will give you the details. The chart itself bears the hallmarks of her sloppy journalism: "OpenSource Linux (e.g. Debian)" What, and the other distros aren't? Ubuntu perhaps deserves its own listing, but she doesn't {know || bother to mention} that it's based on Debian And ironically, she mentions several "flavors" of Unix, but not SCO?! I don't have time to do more digging on this, but wasn't the Yankee Group a supporter of SCO somehow during the lawsuits? As it is, this chart tells us nothing we wouldn't already have suspected, and without a methodology to analyze it, it's worthless as tool for planning policy purposes. Scott Denlinger On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 06:49:42PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote: [. . .] Scott Denlinger 2008-08-21T01:18:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60726 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Harold Bieber 2008-08-21T00:40:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60725 Sorry if this was covered earlier, I've only been following loosely. Have you considered trying the nx server/client from nomachine.com? Free for single user use and smokes vnc in speed. More importantly, you won't run into a tenth of the hassle in setup that is found with the vnc variants on ubuntu. Vindy 2008-08-20T22:55:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60724 All, Just saw: http://www.iaps.com/exc/yankee-group-2007-2008-server-reliability.pdf Shorter lines are better. Apparently Microsoft got it backwards, theirs grew in 2007 from 2006. And , as expected they have the most annual downtime of the OS'es surveyed. Greg Greg Freemyer 2008-08-20T22:49:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60723 _______________________________________________ Ale mailing list Ale-S6NtOCTnm14< at >public.gmane.org http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale Jon Reagan 2008-08-20T20:57:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/60722 Brian - Thanks for the note. 'How' is a mystery but I seem to have created an unintended copy of .vnc/xstartup in my $HOME. Gone now. - JMM On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Brian Pitts wrote: John Mills 2008-08-20T20:29:09 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.user-groups.ale