http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2135 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Nina Paley 2008-08-29T01:09:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2134 (It appears to me at this point that he may very well fully concur with the DPS Project. -- Seth) VIA ECFS Ms. Marlene H. Dortch Secretary Federal Communications Commission 445 12th Street SW Washington DC 20554 Re: Broadband Industry Practices, WC Docket No. 07-52 Dear Ms. Dortch: I am writing to commend the Commission on its order released today regarding Comcast. In all of my experience reviewing government decisions affecting the Internet, I have read none that are more subtle and sophisticated in their understanding of the Internet, and few that are as important for setting the conditions under which innovation and competition on the Internet will flourish. As the Order makes clear, the Commission has clearly recognized the importance of the Internet as a platform for technological growth and innovation. It is also an extraordinarily important platform for free speech. Innovation and technological growth are essential components to economic prosperity. Free speech is the single most importan Seth Johnson 2008-08-21T22:17:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2133 While discussing the kill switch I think its prudent to compare it to a similar 'switch' found in a free software. Firefox has a similar switch for extensions, in that extensions can be blacklisted at amo and if it is bad enough, gets disabled user side. (I'll dig up something from MDC eventually as citation) The difference between how mofo implemented this in ffx as opposed to how Apple did it in iphone is what saves mofo from most peoples scorn. Their is a prefs.js line that you can apply inorder to turn this off, you can even have your own kill switch html site put in as a replacement. So like paulproteous said before the easy solution is just allow the user to jump through hoops to turn the kill switch off. -Eldo Eldo Varghese 2008-08-21T19:14:41 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2132 (Guarding the standards-making process -- and these particular standards as such, which by their general purpose nature not only make possible the full diversity of applications that the Internet platform supports, but also make possible the very flexible development of standards in itself -- is a critical line of attack in assuring "net neutrality." The DPS Project is distinct and derives a considerable part of its strength and appeal because of its addressing and recognizing this approach and concern: http://www.dpsproject.com -- Seth) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FCC Order on Comcast - a good job (FCC decision link corrected) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:23:13 -0400 From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed< at >reed.com> To: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson< at >RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Friends - I just posted this on my blog, regarding the FCC opinion and order about Comcast RST injection. Feel free to send a pointer to it to anyone interested The comment I sent to the Commissioners is also linked there. -David Seth Johnson 2008-08-21T09:18:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2131 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Fred Benenson 2008-08-20T16:51:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2130 Hi, I just finished reading 'Free Culture' this morning and had a few thoughts and questions on it. Lets imagine FC were like any other book and I wanted to write a commentary on it. A commentary where I blockquote a lot, take Lessig's arguments chapter-by-chapter, para-by-para, and make notes or criticisms on them. And then I want to publish this commentary. Would I have to ask permission from the rights-holder? Does it say something that there would a question? --vs Venkatesh Srinivas 2008-08-20T16:31:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2129 Writes Kevin Donovan on our blog: In recent weeks, the iPhone has made quite a stir because of the regulatory decisions made by Apple. Jonathan Zittrain raised this worry in his book, The Future of the Internet, where he cautioned that generativity - the nature of systems to accept input from everyone - was being traded for sterile appliances - devices which do only simple tasks (GPS, TiVo). The iPhone has led a new way, called contingent generativity, that makes generativity dependent upon an intermediary. Apple gets to decide whose Apps are available for download and though Steve Jobs had claimed that they would only block apps that were malicious, pornographic, bandwidth hogs, illegal or threats to privacy, that hasn't proven true in practice. As I noted at Techdirt, Apple is becoming a price-setting intermediary that decided [the "I Am Rich" application wasn't allowable][1] even though it didn't seem to break any rules. "I Am Rich" isn't alone; [other apps which provide additional functionality have be FreeCulture.org - Students for Free Culture 2008-08-19T04:15:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2128 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Kevin Donovan 2008-08-18T22:05:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2127 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Parker Higgins 2008-08-18T21:54:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2126 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Kevin Donovan 2008-08-18T20:27:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2125 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Parker Higgins 2008-08-18T20:05:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2124 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Elizabeth Stark 2008-08-18T18:41:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2123 Easy solution, then: Allow users to jump through complicated hoops to permanently turn the kill switch off. Luckily there are (from what I read) no entries in the kill list right now; that gives Apple some time to implement an opt-out method. Will they? Asheesh Laroia 2008-08-18T18:35:20 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2122 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Samuel Messing 2008-08-18T05:17:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2121 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Matthew J. Agnello 2008-08-17T16:24:18 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2120 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Bret Carpenter 2008-08-15T19:17:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2119 Writes parkerhiggins on our blog: Last weekend, Steve Jobs revealed that Apple has built a "kill-switch" into every iPhone to terminate any "malicious or inappropriate" programs that somehow got through their application screening process.  Of course, nobody but Steve Jobs knows what "malicious or inappropriate" means, or who decides what qualifies, but this is just another way that Apple is showing the possible downside of a highly centralized and proprietary platform. (By contrast, I assure you that not only does the [FreeRunner][1] have no kill-switch, but even iPhones that are jailbroken through [less sanctioned means][2] are not subject to the same remote control.) This revelation by Steve Jobs shouldn't surprise anybody, as it's in line with the traditional Apple walled-garden philosophy, but it still represents a major step in the wrong direction.  By asserting absolute central control over iPhones in the wild, Apple has solidified the iPhone's status as a "tethered" device, and mark [Jonathan Zi FreeCulture.org - Students for Free Culture 2008-08-15T07:15:04 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2118 That's quite interesting. I can't find in the Vimeo video the screenshot posted on the YouTube takedown, but it certainly looks like something that could be pictured. I think the important point here is that if the Vimeo vid gets more views—I was shocked to see it only has roughly 10,000!—it will most certainly be pulled too, as it uses the Olympic rings in the video, and they can claim that as an abuse of trademark. Is it fair use? Sure, I certainly think so. But they will at least get the video pulled for a while while the counterclaim is filed. Anyone have any more info on any difference between the videos? Kevin Donovan wrote: _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Conor Schaefer 2008-08-13T18:54:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2117 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Fred Benenson 2008-08-13T16:17:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2116 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Steve Worona 2008-08-13T16:13:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.freeculture.discuss/2115 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss< at >freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss Kevin Donovan 2008-08-13T15:51:46 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.freeculture.discuss