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Re: Some first node

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-25T02:36:05

I see no reason why not, And I would be happy to help! 

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Subject: [Netsukuku] Some first node

I think we need some starting node to make this network, I don't have a
domain, or even a static IP, but it would be very nice for new
installers to have some network to connect to. Will it be possible to
set one up with some sort of public VPN on dyne or freaknet?
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Re: GUI and Netsukuku artwork

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-25T02:35:18

YUSH! Well, You can help just as a lurker, Just tell people about netsukuku. I made netsukuku is awesome, And put some links in as well or something to that effect as my skype mood message. And I put it on facebook, And asked my friends to do the same. 




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I'm just a lurker. . .but that's awesome!  :-)


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Some first node

Yussi — 2013-05-24T13:25:50

I think we need some starting node to make this network, I don't have a
domain, or even a static IP, but it would be very nice for new
installers to have some network to connect to. Will it be possible to
set one up with some sort of public VPN on dyne or freaknet?
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Re: GUI and Netsukuku artwork

2013-05-24T12:44:34

I'm just a lurker. . .but that's awesome!  :-)


On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:20:40 +1000, Valeska Grim <valeska_grim-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>  
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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-23T10:20:40

Progress! One of my friend will try to make a Netsukuku GUI with vala or something of that nature, And another friend of mine is looking into making Netsukuku artwork!

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Subject: Re: [Netsukuku] cjdns in comparison.

I've played around with it, managed to download the GPL through it's p2p
client, After a few weeks of it running i started noticing weird
connections on my LAN so I disabled it (It many not have been related),
I think it will be good.

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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-22T12:30:44

Hi?

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Subject: Re: [Netsukuku] cjdns in comparison.

I've played around with it, managed to download the GPL through it's p2p
client, After a few weeks of it running i started noticing weird
connections on my LAN so I disabled it (It many not have been related),
I think it will be good.

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Re: Netsukuku forum and chatroom

Suverangmp — 2013-05-21T22:51:09

Hi my name is gaery and I think your work is great. Keep up the god work. 


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On Sat, 18 May 2013, Valeska Grim wrote:


there can be a #netsukuku channel also on irc.dyne.org if you like.

we will open access as a tor hidden service in the future, meanwhile it
is accessible also via tor and IP addressess of everyone are scrambled.

SSL is on port 9999 and web gui is on https://irc.dyne.org

cheers to the reddit. I'm taking notes of all this to make a good
update/remake of the website soon, so that all activities and channels
get documented.

ciao
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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Michael Grube — 2013-05-21T00:32:33

I'm not sure GNUnet is meant for the hardware level. In my mind, GNUnet
might ideally run on top of Netsukuku.


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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-21T00:08:59

And hey, If CJDNS has some good features, It's not the end of the world, We learn from it, And we improve netsukuku. If there are so many other great meshnets, That's good, Competition is good, We just learn from their failures and successes.

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Subject: Re: [Netsukuku] cjdns in comparison.

I've played around with it, managed to download the GPL through it's p2p
client, After a few weeks of it running i started noticing weird
connections on my LAN so I disabled it (It many not have been related),
I think it will be good.

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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-21T00:07:45

Yeah, Exactly, Plus, Pretty much all of the other meshnets have scalability problems too. 

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Subject: Re: [Netsukuku] cjdns in comparison.

Go go gadget google! 

http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/doc/main_doc/topology.pdf

So unless CJDNS's topology is _exactly_ the same as Netsukuku, I'd say pick whichever one you want. I know that you'd probably be much more appreciated here :)

There is no superior case and the truth is really that pretty much nobody really has the answers. One project is not superior to the others and nobody is going to become Linus mfing Torvalds from the work they do here. Understand both systems and work toward whichever you are more curious about.

Religious wars are started and maintained by trolls. Act accordingly.

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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-21T00:06:08

No, He is totally wrong. I've read the entire Netsukuku FAQ, And the documentation .txts. And I've looked at everything else there is too, Darknets, Everything for over a year. Nothing else is actually anything like netsukuku. These people are just pessimistic, And it's annoying. They have their little project which is popular, And they think if anything else becomes popular they will lose popularity. They think everyone has to only use one thing, So they say netsukuku is pointless, It's frustrating really.

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Subject: [Netsukuku] cjdns in comparison.

This guy is starting to convince me that to all intents and purposes ntk
and cjdns are the same thing, and ntk has not major advantages over cjdns

http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1emjof/new_netsukuku_subreddit/ca1suwk

Is he r

Re: cjdns in comparison.

Yussi — 2013-05-20T21:41:03

I've played around with it, managed to download the GPL through it's p2p
client, After a few weeks of it running i started noticing weird
connections on my LAN so I disabled it (It many not have been related),
I think it will be good.


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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Jaromil — 2013-05-20T21:34:08


ahahah!! standing OV!

btw anyone here has looked into GNUnet?

because THAT seems VERY convincing to me, at least on paper.

but then again, it is a different design.

ciao
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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Yussi — 2013-05-20T20:33:13

Actually, yes, ntk is way sweeter than that, his solution for a cjd
wireless mesh is basically to use ad-hoc or batman, that it... ugly!

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Re: cjdns in comparison.

Michael Grube — 2013-05-20T17:37:41

Go go gadget google!

http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/doc/main_doc/topology.pdf

So unless CJDNS's topology is _exactly_ the same as Netsukuku, I'd say pick
whichever one you want. I know that you'd probably be much more appreciated
here :)

There is no superior case and the truth is really that pretty much nobody
really has the answers. One project is not superior to the others and
nobody is going to become Linus mfing Torvalds from the work they do here.
Understand both systems and work toward whichever you are more curious
about.

Religious wars are started and maintained by trolls. Act accordingly.


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cjdns in comparison.

Yussi — 2013-05-20T16:40:05

This guy is starting to convince me that to all intents and purposes ntk
and cjdns are the same thing, and ntk has not major advantages over cjdns

http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1emjof/new_netsukuku_subreddit/ca1suwk

Is he right? can anyone find a silver bullet that will give a reason not
to just drop ntk and go with cjdns?
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Re: netsukuku subreddit

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-20T08:59:13

I joined

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Subject: [Netsukuku] netsukuku subreddit

I just made reddit.com/r/netsukuku
Not sure why, but why not. Feel free to join, I'll make you a mod if I
can figure out how to.
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Re: Netsukuku forum and chatroom

Jaromil — 2013-05-19T12:18:17


there can be a #netsukuku channel also on irc.dyne.org if you like.

we will open access as a tor hidden service in the future, meanwhile it
is accessible also via tor and IP addressess of everyone are scrambled.

SSL is on port 9999 and web gui is on https://irc.dyne.org

cheers to the reddit. I'm taking notes of all this to make a good
update/remake of the website soon, so that all activities and channels
get documented.

ciao
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Re: netsukuku subreddit

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-19T09:34:41

Definitely! I think this is a great idea! Though, I am a bit confused on the purpose of a web interface, Wouldn't a GUI with a remote connect option have the same effect? I mean, I could do it, It just seems vaguely redundant. 

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I just made reddit.com/r/netsukuku
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Re: Netsukuku forum and chatroom

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-19T09:33:28

Hmm, Interesting, I will check that out.

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We need to be able to query the state of the ntkd, number of connected
peers, packet routed per sec, topology, logs etc.

under test_suites, there are classes that do similar things. I guess it
might be better to start off with a command line util.

It's normal practice for routers to have a web interface, so you go to
localhost:someport and you get a control panel to the router. It has to
be optional, so that when we're building for small devices (arm) we can
disable it.

It's up to you how and in what language you write it (The web part, for
the command line part better stick with vala), it's usually done in php
or python.

After messing around a little, i wanted to see what files my ntkd

netsukuku subreddit

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I just made reddit.com/r/netsukuku
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can figure out how to.
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