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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/821">
    <title>Re: SPF adoption rate 16.7% - or 50.2%? or 9%?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/821</link>
    <description>
original survey url:
http://dns.measurement-factory.com/surveys/200810.html


Lars Eggert, a researcher at Nokia, tracks SPF adoption since last 
year, after Frank's suggestion, and got quite different figures: from 
59% in top US domains to 23% for organizations hosting IETF authors 
(average 32%). http://utility.nokia.net/~lars/meter/spf.html

The former survey was run on 1M randomly choosen .com/.net domains, 
the latter on top used domains from alexa + ietf emails.

Yet another statistic, also based on alexa, says 9% 
http://spf-all.com/stats.html

More?


</description>
    <dc:creator>Alessandro Vesely</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-17T08:12:03</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/820">
    <title>SPF adoption rate 16.7%</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/820</link>
    <description>Not sure if this is "news" or a FAQ item on how many people use
SPF, or what.

From:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/Survey_One_DNS_server_in_10_is
_vulnerable_1.html

"Liu said that on the positive side, the survey turned up several items
of good news. For instance, support for SPF -- the sender policy
framework, which combats e-mail spoofing -- has risen over the last 12
months from 12.6 percent of the zones sampled to 16.7 percent."



 - Steve Yates
 - ITS, Inc.
 - Tagline file TAGLINES.TXT corrupt. Loading file MY_DIARY.TXT

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</description>
    <dc:creator>Steve Yates</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-10T16:31:27</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/819">
    <title>why can not find my SPF and MX redord?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/819</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: Duck
Organization: 

Hello, all.

My domain name is: 591wed.com
The SPF and MX record has created a very long period of time.

But on this page: http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html?mydomain=591wed.com
search my domain: 591wed.com, why can not find the SPF and MX redord?

You can follow this steps for test and authentication:

Use another method to detect：
Run "cmd.exe", enter these elements: nslookup -qt=txt 591wed.com
Reaults:
Non-authoritative answer:
591wed.com      text =
        "v=spf1 a mx mx:58.246.186.234. ~all"
591wed.com      nameserver = ns2.dns.com.cn
591wed.com      nameserver = ns1.dns.com.cn

Enter these elements:nslookup -qt=mx 591wed.com
Reaults:
Non-authoritative answer:
591wed.com      MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = 58.246.186.234

Thanks.


</description>
    <dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-27T03:07:52</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/818">
    <title>Please assign me password</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/818</link>
    <description>
Hello,

I am unable to login to www.openspf.org.

How do I setup login name and password to check our servers status.

Best Regards,
Shevali
x7287


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</description>
    <dc:creator>Shevali Aggarwal</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-27T19:42:57</dc:date>
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    <title>RE: why can not find my SPF and MX redord?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/817</link>
    <description>Duck wrote on 8/26/2008 10:07:52 PM:



You've contacted the SPF webmasters list.  I think you want to contact the spf-help mailing list:

http://www.openspf.org/Forums

Please follow up there.

The short answer is those are not the name servers for your domain:

dns1.shanghaichannel.net.
dns2.shanghaichannel.net.


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 - ITS, Inc.
 - GOLFER -- Yells "Fore!", takes five, writes down three.

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Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/
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</description>
    <dc:creator>Steve Yates</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-28T15:45:32</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/816">
    <title>RE: Please assign me password</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/816</link>
    <description>Shevali Aggarwal wrote on 8/27/2008 2:42:57 PM:


You've contacted the SPF webmasters list.  The login on the SPF
web site is to edit pages.  I'm not sure what server you are trying to
check but I think you want to contact the spf-help mailing list.

http://www.openspf.org/Forums

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Common mistakes: http://www.openspf.org/FAQ/Common_mistakes

 - Steve Yates
 - ITS, Inc.
 - Real_men_don't_need_spacebars.

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</description>
    <dc:creator>Steve Yates</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-28T15:43:15</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/815">
    <title>RE: Updated SPF and IPs</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/815</link>
    <description>Gabriel Dumitrescu wrote on 8/21/2008 3:12:24 AM:


Hi Gabriel,

Your message was sent to the SPF webmaster list; I have redirected it to the SPF Help list.  Responders, please follow up there, and cc Gabriel's e-mail.

If you are asking about how to figure out what IPs Google uses to send mail, you should reference their SPF record, _spf.google.com, and then they can change IPs whenever they want.


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 - ITS, Inc.
 - Veni, vidi, Volvo  (I came, I saw, I got a ride home with a Yuppie.)

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</description>
    <dc:creator>Steve Yates</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-25T15:01:52</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/814">
    <title>Updated SPF and IPs</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/814</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: Gabriel Dumitrescu
Organization: 

Hi.
I am not used to emails protocol, SPF, etc, but I have to setup an outbound gateway directing emails to a third party SMTP server. And I am told the followings (by Google Apps in a help page):
_spf.google.com.300INTXT"v=spf1 ip4:216.239.32.0/19 ip4:64.233.160.0/19 
ip4:66.249.80.0/20 ip4:72.14.192.0/18 ip4:209.85.128.0/17 ip4:66.102.0.0/20 ?all"
My question is: how can I check an updated information regarding IPs? (for SPF I read on your SPF site about the validator - http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html). That validator provides SPF records for a domain, but no IPs. Is this information (IPs) public, or each domain keeps this secret as to avoid bad guys (SPAM people) to use it?
Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
Regards,
Gabriel Dumitrescu

</description>
    <dc:creator>Gabriel Dumitrescu</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-21T08:12:24</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/813">
    <title>Re: typo on main page</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/813</link>
    <description>

My bad, fixed on three pages, thanks for info.

 Frank



</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-16T19:31:04</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/812">
    <title>typo on main page</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/812</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: Terry Jackson
Organization: Jackson Consulting

Under Latest News:
Working is not spelled correctly:
"The Messaging Anti-Abuse Workining..."

</description>
    <dc:creator>Terry Jackson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-14T16:51:42</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/810">
    <title>New account?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/810</link>
    <description>Frank,
in facts I could only read the headline


What was wrong with it?

Curiously, I got "0 pages found for http://trusted-forwarders.org"
also on web.archive.org: Hiding that stuff is apparently gaining 
popularity... :-/

So, should I send some special stuff somewhere to get an entry on the 
users' db?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [spf-discuss] Re: trusted-forwarders.org
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:06:18 +0200
From: Frank Ellermann &lt;hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;
Reply-To: spf-discuss&lt; at &gt;v2.listbox.com
Organization: &lt;URL:http://purl.net/xyzzy&gt;
To: spf-discuss&lt; at &gt;v2.listbox.com


Yeah :-(


"Learn the difference between forwarder and forwarders"
is not exciting enough for the SPF main page.  I reverted
three edited pages, hiding News/2008-07-17 as "#PRIVATE".

Apologies for this unscheduled exercise,

  Frank
</description>
    <dc:creator>Alessandro Vesely</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-02T06:10:24</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/809">
    <title>Re: la poesia</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/809</link>
    <description>[...]

Strange, apparently any subscribed address gets a free
ride via the contact form.  It is now unsubscribed and
deleted.  

OB on topic, I started a new page:
&lt;http://www.openspf.org/Research&gt;

 Frank



</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-31T23:52:02</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/808">
    <title>la poesia</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/808</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: nuvola
Organization: ny

la bella poesia

</description>
    <dc:creator>nuvola</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-31T22:17:47</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/807">
    <title>suggested change in automatic text</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/807</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: Fernando López Santoveña
Organization: IATA-CSIC

In the message copied below, it is finally suggested to contact the postmaster of the sending domain. Since the message has been apparently missrejected by the receiving domain, I think it would be better to suggest contacting postmaster at hostytec.com instead of iata.csic.es
As postmaster at iata.csic.es I have no data about the reasons of
hostytec.com to reject our message.

-----message read in openspf.org website-------------------------

h0036.hostytec.com rejected a message that claimed an envelope sender address of fernando&lt; at &gt;iata.csic.es.

h0036.hostytec.com received a message from linneo.iata.csic.es (161.111.212.22) that claimed an envelope sender address of fernando&lt; at &gt;iata.csic.es.

The domain iata.csic.es has authorized linneo.iata.csic.es (161.111.212.22) to send mail on its behalf, so the message should have been accepted. It is impossible for us to say why it was rejected.
What should I do?

If the problem persists,</description>
    <dc:creator>Fernando LópezSantoveña</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-30T10:59:32</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/806">
    <title>Re: SPF sample form sais my site has no mx server</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/806</link>
    <description>Peter Coe wrote with topic "SPF Web site":


Maybe some temporary DNS glitch, try again later.

 Frank




</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T15:00:57</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/805">
    <title>Re: I've visited your website http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/805</link>
    <description> 

That's not what everybody else feels when using the wizard :-)


Thanks for info...


...oops, it never occured to me that the old wizard could be a
gold mine.  Well, this was on topic "web site".  I'd certainly
love to get a share of this bounty, not to mention "need", but
I think we better stay away from selling Ad-space on this page.
For starters modifying it would be a technical challenge.

 Frank



</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T14:58:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/803">
    <title>SPF sample form sais my site has no mx server</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/803</link>
    <description>
Topic: The SPF website
Name: Peter Coe
Organization: PCOE Computer Services

pcoecsi.com does have an MX server why does the sample form not detect it?

</description>
    <dc:creator>Peter Coe</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T00:24:16</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/802">
    <title>Re: Why Issue/Feature request</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/802</link>
    <description>
   [old]

   [Scott]

   [Frank]
 

It's about the "WHY was my message rejected" blurb, IMO
that is not the place to discuss accepting FAIL for the
purposes of training spam filters, or similar ideas.


IMO it's about the minimal fix to keep SMTP afloat... ;-)
Never use those auth-words, somebody will always whine.

    {Stuart]

Works if it's followed by the some "was rejeceted for
reasons unrelated to SPF" explanation (see above).

I'd prefer reject/accept terminolgy where I know what
it means (including 2821bis), instead of auth-whatever.

 

Indeed, it depends on the POV.  Completely unrelated:

I have posted a proposal with three test cases on the 
devel list after a developer was tempted to ignore
four existing siumilar test cases, because a Windows
DNS API confuses "domain" and "hostname".

 Frank



</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-02T20:29:17</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/801">
    <title>Re: Re: Why Issue/Feature request</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/801</link>
    <description>
My vote is whoever codes it up (Julian?) decide.

Scott K


</description>
    <dc:creator>Scott Kitterman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-02T04:24:13</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/800">
    <title>Re: Re: Why Issue/Feature request</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/800</link>
    <description>

I would not say anything about accepting or rejecting.  SPF is about
authenticating/authorizing[*] MFROM.  For instance, SPF pass tells me I can
blacklist an entire MFROM domain without worrying about whether they were
forged.  And SPF fail could be a hint to accept an email to train a
content filter.

How about "Was authentic/authorized according to SPF"?  I guess the problem
is that end users wouldn't know what that meant.

[*]It is controversial which.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Stuart D. Gathman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-01T22:41:46</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/799">
    <title>Perl, contact, and all the rest (Re: Why Issue/Feature request)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spf.webmasters/799</link>
    <description>

But this would imply that I don't exist... :-)

Seriously, something with the contact form is
broken, folks keep sending support requests
to this list.  If they do this intentionally
I'm lost why.

If I look at the perl source this should only
happen if it is intentional:

https://www.openspf.org/source/spf-website/modules/contact-form/lib/SPFProject/Website/ContactForm.pm?rev=27&amp;view=markup

But if I look at the "real" contact form this
says "help request", not "support request" as
in the source, therefore there can be a "real"
bug elsewhere.  

Where is the "real" contact form if it is not 
the contact form source ?

 Frank



</description>
    <dc:creator>Frank Ellermann</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-01T10:32:57</dc:date>
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