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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4113">
    <title>Re: [!! SPAM] Welcome to the "Razor-users" mailinglist</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4113</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;15.11.2011 20:26, razor-users-request&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;lists.sourceforge.net пишет:


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    <dc:creator>Andrey Nazarov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-11-15T16:34:42</dc:date>
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    <title>(no subject)</title>
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    <title>Re: Razor and Pyzor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4111</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Sorry, I know this is the Razor-suers list, but:
run:
pyzor discover

also, look at this patch to the pyzor executable that you may need:
http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/pyzor.patch1.txt

On 9/2/11, Giampaolo Tomassoni &amp;lt;Giampaolo&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;tomassoni.biz&amp;gt; wrote:


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    <dc:creator>Gary V</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-09-02T12:44:59</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Razor and Pyzor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4110</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
My SAs get Pyzor hits even today, so I guess it is some problem with your
own setup/installation.

Why don't you place a help request in pyzor-users&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;lists.sourceforge.net ?

Giampaolo 




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    <title>Re: Razor and Pyzor</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;differ 

Hi Luciano.

It is not only a matter of databases: they use different methods to extract
hashes of the message in order to check them against their own databases of
well-known spam signatures.

Besides, the methods Razor adopt to do it are proprietary, so generally we
(the users) can't easily estimate how much overlap is in the results of
these two packages. So it is not easy to tune their scores.

However, Razor seems to have a quite wide userbase and (authenticated)
methods to revoke FPs, so I'm inclined to trust Razor hits a bit more than
Pyzor ones.

Giampaolo


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    <title>Re: Razor and Pyzor</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
They are different databases so this is probably the reason for the
different scores.

http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_3_x.html

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    <dc:creator>Gary V</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-08-30T12:35:59</dc:date>
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    <title>Razor and Pyzor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4107</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello,
maybe is not a great question, but i'd like to know if:
a) when spamassassin give a score due to RAZOR2_CHECK
    should give the same score to PYZOR_CHECK ?
b) Razor and Pyzor are based on different signature database or they differ
    only because Pyzor is Python based ?

Many thanks,

Luciano
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    <dc:creator>l.rinetti&lt; at &gt;movimatica.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-08-30T11:48:26</dc:date>
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    <title>(no subject)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4106</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
 

Leesa ￼￼

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    <dc:date>2011-06-17T00:36:37</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4105">
    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
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    <dc:date>2011-06-15T23:43:25</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4104">
    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4103">
    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4103</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

I'm not convinced Razor would trigger on a GTUBE string, however useful that would be. If GTUBE is a special case in the razor agent, please let me know. However, I have a couple of old spams saved to test things like this. One has a URL somewhere in it for e8 testing, the other one doesn't (for e4 testing):

razor-check -d &amp;lt;spammail.txt

When I test now it appears only engine 8 (e8) responds, but it doesn't care about mails without URLs. Thus no signature is created or checked for e8:
Jun 13 13:57:18.821359 check[58527]: [ 6] Engine (8) didn't produce a signature for mail 1.0

There is nothing whatsoever about engine 4 (e4) in the debug output, except that the log claims the client supports it. Otherwise it's silent. Odd that Pyzor is working though.

Razor 2.84 appears to work halfway. Nothing in my spamfolders are older than 14 days, so I can't go back to see when e4 signatures last worked. The last message in razor-users before this thread shows e4 did respond, so I'm not sure what's up.

In short: I h&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <dc:date>2011-06-13T12:09:23</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
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    <dc:date>2011-06-13T11:12:39</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4101">
    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
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    <dc:date>2011-06-13T10:51:41</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4100">
    <title>Re: Razor not working</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4100</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;


I had razor recognize a spam just a few minutes ago:
Jun 12 20:33:06.073069 check[62918]: [ 3] mail 1 is known spam.

If you sent a mail containing only the GTUBE string, the e8 server won't do the query in any case. Strange that there was no response from e4 though ...

How long's it been since you did a discovery?

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    <dc:date>2011-06-12T19:06:13</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4099">
    <title>Razor not working</title>
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    <dc:date>2011-06-12T18:13:00</dc:date>
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    <title>listing lifetime / delisting procedure</title>
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    <dc:creator>Catalin Constantin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-31T08:40:46</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4097">
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    <title>Is there any chance to recover a password to razor2?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.razor.user/4096</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello, i did registered on razor2 reporting service by this e-mail.
Recently my server hdd died. With all account information.
I found a hand written password on a paper, but when i did enter it in identity, the razor service report 214 error.
Possibly I did wrote it with a one letter different than that i did enter when was registering.
I have about 1000 reported spams, with only false negative, and ever on that i did make revoke.
If possible, I want use that account in future, but can the password be recovered?

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    <dc:creator>Walkie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-11-04T15:39:56</dc:date>
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