gmane.mail.imap.binc.general

Re: [binc] Spam Filters, etc.

Bob Van Zant — 2006-01-09T19:22:11

Is this an issue of people replying to everyone vs. replying just to the list? The last response I sent (that apparently was duplicated) was a reply-all case. The response I¹m sending right now is replying just to the list. Knowing that might help isolate the configuration problem with the list. FWIW, I don¹t think I¹ve ever seen a duplicated set of messages; but that may be coincidence. Based on how often I post here it may even help argue the reply-all vs. reply-list point (I don¹t post, people don¹t reply-all to me + list). -Bob On 1/9/06 11:13 AM, "Kenneth Lyons" GraphixWizard.com> wrote:

[binc] Mail Loop?

Kenneth Lyons — 2006-01-09T20:55:04

I'm still getting repeated messages, about one every 3 minutes. Is there a mail-loop issue on the binc server. I've ruled out a local problem, every message has a differnet ESMTP id, from the binc server. Could the mail server be overwhelmed from the spam or something? Ken Lyons Sr. Tech GraphixWizard Web Design, Hosting & IT Solutions http://Hosting.GraphixWizard.com KenL< at >GraphixWizard.com Tel: 407-656-9742

Re: [binc] Spam Filters, etc.

Marcus D. Hanwell — 2006-01-09T19:51:40

Well the emails on the other thread do seem to be bouncing around still, whereas this thread remains unaffected so far. Very strange. I would have thought you could have blacklisted the address or even the entire domain - why would paypal even need to email the list? I use a combination of ClamAV, spamassassin and razor on my mail servers too, but I took to allowing fairly high scores onto mailing lists due to some of the senders apparently using bad ISPs with no rDNS on mail servers etc. May be I should change that, but it would be a good idea to improve the infrastructure that binc is hosted on. At least the server seems to have calmed - hopefully we can get back to discussions of development and bug fixing now ;)

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Kyle Wheeler — 2006-01-09T17:41:42

On Monday, January 9 at 09:27 AM, quoth Bob Van Zant: Another point... why do I keep getting duplicate mail from this list? So far I've gotten two copies of Bob's mail, and I got something like 8 copies of Marcus's mail. ~Kyle

Re: [binc] Mail Loop?

Peter Stuge — 2006-01-09T21:12:43

Yeah, me too, some minutes apart. Looks like it. The Received headers indicate the same thing. I don't know what could be the cause, I hope Andreas can investigate. //Peter

[binc] Notice: Please resubscribe to the mailing list

Andreas Aardal Hanssen — 2006-01-10T15:06:28

Hi, everyone. As part of fighting the ongoing spam problem on this mailing list, we've decided to switch to a different server, running different software. A good thing is that the new server has higher reliability than the existing server. Another good thing is that it's running Mailman, which has an easy-to-use interface for configuring, for example, post-only subscription. You need to resubscribe to the new mailing list software. The reason we are doing this is not technical, rather it's because spammers have registered an unknown number of fake addresses to this list, and we can't tell the good ones from the bad ones. You can subscribe here: https://lists.su.se/mailman/listinfo/binc https://lists.su.se/mailman/listinfo/binc-dev https://lists.su.se/mailman/listinfo/binc-news Hopefully this will be a painless transition for you all. After this email has been sent, the < at >bincimap.org emails will go to the new server. See you all on the new lists! Andy and Jerry :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen | http:

Re: [binc] Spam Filters, etc.

Alejandro Mery — 2006-01-10T04:59:24

Andreas: can you inject a Reply-To header so please gets forced to reply to the list? Thanks, Alejandro Mery

[binc] Spam Filters, etc.

Kenneth Lyons — 2006-01-09T19:13:14

We've all been through this discussion. Like other users, it's the REPLYS that are filling my inbox. --which is why this email is from scratch. I must have deleted at least 50 messages already. We use CLAMAV and it does a good job of bouncing phishing emails like this, as well as email viruses. The list needs to have *SOME TYPE* of filtering. It's insane to run a nearly open relay, (subscribing can be done with automated tools now a days). Ken Lyons Sr. Tech GraphixWizard Web Design, Hosting & IT Solutions http://Hosting.GraphixWizard.com KenL< at >GraphixWizard.com Tel: 407-656-9742

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Peter Stuge — 2006-01-09T19:07:22

I've also gotten several copies of the original spam message, Marcus' message as well as Bob's message. I have not seen the list do this for other posts, only for the spam messages (also previously) and the replies from Marcus and Bob. On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:03:21PM +0000, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: Inspecting the Received headers shows that the message is duplicated on the mailing list server (serenity.infeline.org 217.144.230.29) where uid 1012 is invoking qmail repeatedly to send out the same message, with some minutes interval. I would love to know what is causing this so I can prevent it on systems I control. Andreas: Is it your system? Can you investigate? Would you like some help? Apparently that has been done several times already.. //Peter

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Network Operation Center FMC Luxemburg — 2006-01-09T18:14:12

I too : three same mails from Bob Van Zant...

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Marcus D. Hanwell — 2006-01-09T18:03:21

I don't know - it is going crazy. I checked my mail server logs and it indicates the email was sent only once as does my mail client. I don't think there is anything I can do to stop it. I do run a spam filter but I generally filter lists into folders *before* removing spam as I found too many emails were being filtered from users with poor ISPs etc posting to lists. May be it is time to review that, but if the list is subscriber only as it appears to be then the paypal address should be removed from the subscription list. Hopefully you will only see one copy of this email but who can tell.

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Bob Van Zant — 2006-01-09T17:27:32

Why aren't you guys running spam filters? The only time I see spam on this list is when you folks reply to it. Spam isn't a fad on the internet; it's here to stay and it's going to eventually "infect" every email account you've ever had. Get a -good- spam filter and stop worrying about the mailing list policy. FWIW, I'm behind an ironport machine (www.ironport.com) -Bob On 1/9/06 7:58 AM, "Marcus D. Hanwell" cryos.net> wrote:

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Marcus D. Hanwell — 2006-01-09T15:58:39

Couldn't you unsubscribe service< at >paypal.com then? I wouldn't have thought that address would be subscribed to the list anyway. The level of mail coming from there is outnumbering real posts right now... May be ban the mail server it is originating from? Just tried sending from another address and it did indeed fail. Is there any reason you want those emails to succeed?

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Andreas Aardal Hanssen — 2006-01-09T09:37:44

It's already subscriber-only. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen | http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg Author of Binc IMAP | "It is better not to do something http://www.bincimap.org/ | than to do it poorly."

Re: [binc] Notification of Limited Account Access

Torgeir Veimo — 2006-01-08T22:51:47

Isn't it possible to get a subscriber-only-posting policy on this list? This is insane..

Re: [binc] patches for an stricter world, and x86-64.

Jerry Lundström — 2006-01-05T10:12:49

This was already checked in. I am unsure if this really makes any difference since I belive gnu c++ zero's all stack variables. But since it doesnt really change anything I commited it. This on the other hand I didn't commit, I only removed the broker pointer output from the debug. Just changing this pointer from int to long might not make binc x86-64 compatible. There can still be other situations in the code where int/long's are mixed so we need to look over all the code to ensure its 64bits compatible. Thanks for supplying these patches!

Re: [binc] patches for an stricter world, and x86-64.

Peter Stuge — 2006-01-05T09:07:27

I would commit them if I could. :) //Peter

Re: [binc] Unable to delete folders

Jerry Lundström — 2006-01-05T08:10:48

I hope you understand that you just sent your user/password in plaintext to this list. Also, this strace doesn't say anything beside "logout".

Re: [binc] Unable to delete folders

Network Operation Center FMC Luxemburg — 2006-01-05T06:45:18

8919 select(1, [0], NULL, NULL, {40, 450000}) = 1 (in [0], left {33, 480000}) 8919 gettimeofday({1136187981, 369590}, NULL) = 0 8919 read(0, "2 authenticate plain\r\n", 1024) = 22 8919 alarm(1200) = 0 8919 write(1, "+ \r\n", 4) = 4 8919 alarm(0) = 1200 8919 gettimeofday({1136187981, 370607}, NULL) = 0 8919 select(1, [0], NULL, NULL, NULL) = 1 (in [0]) 8919 gettimeofday({1136187981, 670221}, NULL) = 0 8919 read(0, "AGluZm8uc2VjdXJpdG1haWwAZm1jMzUybHU=\r\n", 1024) = 38 8919 brk(0) = 0x8080000 8919 brk(0x8081000) = 0x8081000 8919 brk(0) = 0x8081000 8919 brk(0x8082000) = 0x8082000 8919 pipe([4, 5]) = 0 8919 pipe([6, 7]) = 0 8919 pipe([8, 9]) = 0 8919 time(NULL) = 1136187981 8919 clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|0x11,

[binc] patches for an stricter world, and x86-64.

Alejandro Mery — 2006-01-04T22:29:19

hi, the following patches are been used by t2-project.org (a framework to develop distributions forked from ROCKLinux) to build bincimap on gcc 4 and for x86-64. http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/mail/bincimap/errno.patch http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/mail/bincimap/uninitialized-fix.patch http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/mail/bincimap/x86-64-compile-fix.patch they are very simple, i hope you accept them. long life to BincIMAP ,-) Alejandro Mery

Re: [binc] Unable to delete folders

Peter Stuge — 2006-01-04T16:13:20

Perhaps you could send it compressed (or a link to it) to this list? Then one of the other people here could take a look at it and we wouldn't have to hog Andreas' free time all the time. :) If these are in production I certainly understand your decision, but I would like to appeal to you to help us find the actual problem so that it can be fixed. Perhaps you could run a second instance of Binc 1.2.12 on a special port on one of your servers? These kinds of disclaimers don't make much sense, especially not when posting to a public mailing list. Please contact whoever is in charge of your outbound email (maybe yourself? :) and try to have them set up a system where these disclaimers do not get added to outgoing email directed to any public mailing lists and forums you participate in. I know at least one list where you would simply get a reply to your first message saying "sorry, this might not have been for us, we can not help you since we can not use what you sent." For secure email I suggest using a