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    <title>Re: Bogotrainer lost</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11647</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;


I don't know about the particular packaging/distribution of bogofilter you're 
using, but I'm guessing it didn't install the user-contributed scripts (of which 
trainbogo.sh is one).  If you download the current bogofilter source tarball, the 
contrib files will be found inside it:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bogofilter/files/bogofilter-current/

Note that you seem to be running a very old version of bogofilter, so the 
newer scripts may not work as expected with your configuration.  (However, 
trainbogo.sh seems to have been last modified in 2004, so perhaps it will be 
OK.)  Maybe you can find the old version 1.0.2 of bogofilter source somewhere. 
Or migrate your setup to the current version of bogofilter.

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    <dc:creator>Matt Garretson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-21T15:23:38</dc:date>
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    <title>Bogotrainer lost</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11646</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;For a very long time I've been training bogofilter with the command

bash /usr/share/bogofilter/contrib/contrib/trainbogo.sh -c -H 
/home/anne/Maildir/.INBOX.Bogotrain_ham/cur/ -S 
/home/anne/Maildir/.INBOX.Bogotrain_spam/cur


However, since I installed Scientific Linux 6 I find that I don't appear to have 
that file.  I'm running bogofilter-1.0.2-6.el6.x86_64.

I've got quite a store of training emails now.  Could you please help me get 
back on track?

Thanks

Anne
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    <dc:date>2012-05-21T13:45:07</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Are Bogon IP addresses uses for bogosity, and where are they kept?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11645</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Continued training is the solution to these sorts of issues.  No special 
fixes.  Just train.  It's like training a pet.  If your dog doesn't roll 
over on command, keep training.  If your bogofilter marks some spams as 
hams or vice versa, keep training.

Tom


On 10/24/2011 12:21 AM, Tweeks wrote:

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    <dc:creator>Thomas Anderson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-11-02T22:05:28</dc:date>
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    <title>New version of bogofilter-milter.pl</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11644</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;For those of you who use bogofilter-milter.pl, the Milter implementation 
of bogofilter filtering I wrote, there is a new version available at 
http://stuff.mit.edu/~jik/software/bogofilter-milter/bogofilter-milter.pl.txt 
&amp;lt;http://stuff.mit.edu/%7Ejik/software/bogofilter-milter/bogofilter-milter.pl.txt&amp;gt; 
which you should replace the version you're using with (David, please 
take this new version for the contrib directory in the bogofilter 
distribution).

This fixes a bug in the handling of incoming messages larger than one 
million bytes, or whatever you change the $MAX_INCORE_MSG_LENGTH limit 
to in the script, if you change it. In particular, the bug caused 
messages at least this large to be "chunked" into blocks of that many 
bytes, with only the last chunk preserved to be fed into bogofilter 
and/or archived in $archive_mbox or $ham_archive_mbox.

I am grateful for Stephen Davies for not only pointing out the bug to 
me, but also doing a great deal of troubleshooting on it and pointing me 
right at the&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <title>Re: Are Bogon IP addresses uses for bogosity, and where are they kept?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11643</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Q1:  Bogofilter keeps all its tokens in a database.  The default
database is named wordlist.db.  Individual IP address are kept, but not
address ranges, i.e. the wordlist will save 1.2.3.4 but will not save
1.2.3/24.

Q2: Read the FAQ.  Reclassifying messages is simple.

bogotune is complex.  As a starting point, you'll need a set of 5000
(or more) ham and a comparable number of spam.  If the FAQ doesn't have
enough info, post again.  I need to head out.

Hope this helps.

David

On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:21:20 +0000 (UTC)
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    <dc:date>2011-10-24T11:35:49</dc:date>
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    <title>Are Bogon IP addresses uses for bogosity, and where are they kept?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11642</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Couple questions...

Q1) I just started using bogofilter on my Kmail install, and it's flagging 
all mail coming from my mail server as spam. My server is not blacklisted 
anywhere, but IS in an old bogon IP range (98.129) that was released for use 
by the IANA some time back in 2006 (098/8)... and my fear is that my 
server's x-bogon is still being flagged by bogofilter as a bogon.

If this is not the case, someone please show me where any bogon lists are 
kept and how I can verify that my MTA's primary IP is not in such a list.

Q2) If I accidentally marked some HAM as spam.. how do I fix this? I can't 
find any good tutorials or anything on using bogotune (if that's eaven the 
right tool).


Thanks!

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    <dc:date>2011-10-24T04:21:20</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: importing words from popfile in to bogofilter</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11641</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
Joseph Harth wrote:


Hi Joseph,

I think what you've done may be sub-optimal, possibly not even useful.

Part of the bayesian nature of bogofilter is to know how often words
appear in spam and ham.  In particular, bogofilter likes to know that
"xxx" appears in y% of spam messages and in z% of ham messages.  With
these numbers, the appearance of "xxx" can be judged as good or bad.

Consider the following

   .MSG_COUNT 1000 100
   xxx 500 90

These values indicate that 
 1000 spam have been processed and 500 of them had xxx, for a 50% score
  100 ham with 90 having xxx, for a score of 90%.

With numbers like the above, the appearance of xxx indicates the
message is more likely good than bad.

With the wordlist you've created, run "bogoutil -d wordlist.db" to
display your wordlist as text and see if you like the results.  

Alternatively you can test simple messages using "echo" or file
indirection, for example

   echo this is a test | bogofilter -H -v

   bogofilter -&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <dc:date>2011-09-03T21:11:28</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: importing words from popfile in to bogofilter</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11640</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
Joseph Harth wrote:


"bogoutil -l wordlist.db token_file.txt" will load the entries in
token_file.txt into wordlist.db

The format of token_file.txt is:

token1 spam_count ham_count date
token2 spam_count ham_count date
.MSG_COUNT spam_messages ham_messages date

Where spam_count is the number of times the token has been seen in
spam messages and ham_count is the count for ham messages.

Where spam_messages and ham_messages are the number of spam and ham
messages processed in building the wordlist.  If popfile doesn't have
that information, you'll have to make up this information.  Note: a
reasonable estimate for spam_messages might be double (2x) the largest
spam_count and 2x ham_count for ham_messages.

The date field is the date the tokens are entered into the wordlist.
The format is YYYYMMDD.

You'll have to do some experimenting to determine the best way to
convert your spam and ham files to the format needed by bogoutil.  The
following lines are (approx) what yo&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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    <title>Re: Getting bogotrain back</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11639</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Am 31.08.2011 12:05, schrieb RW:

Sorry for that, fixed in FreeBSD's port bogofilter-1.2.2_3, -tc-1.2.2_2
and -sqlite-1.2.2_2.  Thanks for posting the fix.
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    <dc:creator>Matthias Andree</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-08-31T10:32:20</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Getting bogotrain back</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11638</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:53:00 -0400
David Relson wrote:


I notice that trainbogo.sh still doesn't work on FreeBSD.

All that's needed is a ports patch file  to change 

  md5=$(printf "%s" "${rndseed}${i}" | md5sum | sed "s/  -//")

to

  md5=$(printf "%s" "${rndseed}${i}" | md5)


  
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    <dc:date>2011-08-31T10:05:20</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Getting bogotrain back</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11637</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:08:58 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:


As you say, training continues.  Bogofilter is nine years old and
I've been running it for a few months less than that -- and I'm still
training daily with unsures and the occasional false negative.  
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    <title>Re: Getting bogotrain back</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks David.  That solves the problem :-)  Training continues, as always.

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    <title>Getting bogotrain back</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;My mail server has been upgraded to CentOS 6.  Bogofilter is installed and 
appears to be tagging correctly.  However, I'm having problems with retraining 
-

bash /usr/share/bogofilter/contrib/contrib/trainbogo.sh -c -H 
/home/anne/Maildir/.INBOX.Bogotrain_ham/cur/ -S 
/home/anne/Maildir/.INBOX.Bogotrain_spam/cur/
bash: /usr/share/bogofilter/contrib/contrib/trainbogo.sh: No such file or 
directory

On checking I find that there is no /usr/share/bogofilter directory, and no 
amount of searching is finding the scripts.  Unfortunately I don't appear to 
have archived the messages where you originally helped me set this up.

How can I get this working again?

Anne
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    <title>Re: How to troubleshoot new installation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11634</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;easily.  Your
/home/admin/.bogofilter
can be used using
/home/admin/.bogofilter &amp;lt; MSG
display the
on its own.
through
modified it
your procmail
really like it.
Gyepi Sam
Gyepi Sam
to the new. I
Spam, or Unsure,
/home/admin/.bogofilter
/usr/include/sysexits.h
is the same
get the 75 error
eventually die.
13:06:27 -0400
errors -----
#admin"
#admin"...
Message could
from queue
/home/admin/.bogofilter/wordlist.db
################################################
command line and

Following the K.I.S.S. rule, and using Kmail which allows 
for a filter, here is my overnight script:
---------------------------------------
/usr/local/bogofilter-1.2.2/contrib/trainbogo.sh -c -H 
/home/safe/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/Ham/cur/ -S 
/home/safe/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/Spam/cur/ 
-----------------------------------------
The above is all one long sentence.
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    <title>Re: How to troubleshoot new installation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11633</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Hi Bogofilterers,

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, at 23:13, David Relson wrote:


Thanks for giving me a chance to add my 2c :)

Additionally, I recommend to clarify in which context the scripts are 
running. As we are talking procmail here one might add

  LOG=`id`

to the procmailrc. This runs the command _id_ and appends the output 
to the procmail logfile. It shows the current user and the groups it 
belongs to.

Say, the script is run as user postfix, then one might want to test 
bogofilter with something like

  su postfix --shell /bin/sh -c "/usr/local/bin/bogofilter -u (...)"


HTH,

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    <dc:date>2011-07-07T08:20:03</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: How to troubleshoot new installation</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
Doug wrote:


Hello Doug,

The short answer is "Yes".  

The long answer is "Being summer it's travel and vacation season and
also cycling season.  For example, in June, my wife, daughter, and I
pedaled our bikes across Michigan - a distance of 283 miles in 6
days (http://www.lmb.org/palm).  All these activities impact support,
so support times tend to be longer."

Regards,

David
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    <dc:date>2011-07-07T03:30:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: bogotune claims too few messages despite &gt;3000 ham and &gt;5000 spam</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11631</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Jonathan,

Bogotune is complex and tricky.  For its operation, it requires a set
of messages (as you're aware) and the messages must follow some
constraints that are implemented in the code, but not readily
described in words.  The information you provide isn't sufficient to
diagnose the actual problem.

Bogotune's "-M" switch allows conversion of messages to the "message
count" format, i.e. tokens that are sorted and have duplicates removed.
This has the effect of anonymizing a message and obscuring its meaning.
Effectively this removes sensitive meaning from the messages. If you'd
care to use the "-M" switch and send me (off-list) a copy of the
resulting ham and spam files, I'll run bogotune and see if I can
determine why it's unhappy with your corpora.

Be warned that it's summer travel season so I may not be able to look
at your files right away.

Regards,

David

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:23:01 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:

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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.bogofilter.general/11630</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Doug,

Bogofilter can be tested from the command line quite easily.  Your
postfix setup runs bogofilter using command:

 /usr/local/bin/bogofilter -u -e -p -l -d /home/admin/.bogofilter

Assuming your message is in file MSG, the same command can be used using
MSG as redirected input, i.e.

 /usr/local/bin/bogofilter -u -e -p -l -d /home/admin/.bogofilter &amp;lt; MSG

adding an "echo $?" command after running bogofilter will display the
exitcode.

The above will let you verify that bogofilter is working on its own.
I, too, use procmail -- a script developed years ago through
trial and error and the advice of others.  I haven't modified it
in a long time and haven't the expertise to help debug your procmail
script.

HTH,

David


On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:55:02 -0700 (PDT)
Doug wrote:

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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I'm trying to tune bogofilter and can't get bogotune to work reliably. 
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Why is bogotune having trouble locking onto good settings, when I've got 
3121 ham messages and 5818 spam messages? Also, the settings I'm 
currently using, which were generated by an earlier, successful run of 
bogotune about four months ago, are working just fine, with my spam 
detection rate at above 99%. I've noticed a few more false positives 
than I prefer when I receive email from new entities, which is why I'm 
trying to retune.

Before bogotune was having this particular problem, it was having 
another one... it kept reporting that it couldn't read my wordlist.db. 
That problem went away after I used bogoutil to remove tokens from the 
word list that haven't been seen in 180 days, a maintenance task I do 
periodically to keep the size of the word list reasonable.

I've also recently dumped and reloaded the word list into a new file, 
which brought its size down from 9MB to 3MB, but that didn't help bogotu&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jonathan Kamens</dc:creator>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I have been running Bogofilter for several years and really like it. It works very well.

I brought up bogofilter on a new system -

This is the new system - 

slate:/usr/local/bin # bogofilter -V
bogofilter-sqlite version 1.2.2
    Database: SQLite 3.7.5
Copyright (C) 2002-2010 David Relson, Matthias Andree
Copyright (C) 2002-2004 Greg Louis
Copyright (C) 2002-2003 Eric S. Raymond, Adrian Otto, Gyepi Sam

And this is the old system, I am currently using -

bogofilter-sqlite version 1.2.2
    Database: SQLite 3.7.3
Copyright (C) 2002-2010 David Relson, Matthias Andree
Copyright (C) 2002-2004 Greg Louis
Copyright (C) 2002-2003 Eric S. Raymond, Adrian Otto, Gyepi Sam

I copied the database (wordlist.db) from the old system to the new. I am using the same procmail script. 

# filter mail through bogofilter, tagging it as Ham, Spam, or Unsure,
# and updating the wordlist

# :0fw: bogofilter.lock
# | /usr/local/bin/bogofilter -u -e -p -l -d /home/admin/.bogofilter


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