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    <title>Re: Profiling Parenscript compilation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3049</link>
    <description>
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Scott Bell wrote:


Use CHUD 4.5.0, and read ccl/library/chud-profiling.txt ?

CHUD 4.5.0 matches what was released with XCode 3.0.  Later versions seem
to break support for using ".spatch" files to name otherwise anonymous
memory regions (like lisp functions.)

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    <dc:creator>Gary Byers</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T20:06:26</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Profiling Parenscript compilation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3048</link>
    <description>Scott,

you can give the deterministic profiler a try.  It is included with
the CCL distribution in tools/advice-profiler, but it needs to be
manually loaded.  I have not looked into it in a while, but if you
find any problems with it, let me know and I'll try to help out.

-Hans

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 20:56, Scott Bell &lt;sblist&lt; at &gt;me.com&gt; wrote:
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    <title>Profiling Parenscript compilation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3047</link>
    <description>Hi folks,

We have a series of Parenscript `scripts' that seem to be quite  
expensive to
compile under most Lisps. SBCL takes between 8 and 12 seconds, and CCL
takes up to 90 seconds.

In my attempts to locate the most expensive calls, I have used CHUD- 
METERING,
Apple's Instruments profiler, and out-of-the-box Shark. Since these do  
not
seem to be able to profile Lisp functions, I'm at a bit of a loss on  
how to proceed.

Does anyone have any advice?

Thanks,

- Scott Bell
</description>
    <dc:creator>Scott Bell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T19:56:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: how to use quicktime</title>
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    <description>_______________________________________________
Openmcl-devel mailing list
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</description>
    <dc:creator>Alexander Repenning</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T20:32:09</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3045</link>
    <description>Matt fixed this yesterday (see
&lt;http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/changeset/11449&gt;).

As far as I can tell, the fix works:

  Welcome to Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.3-dev-r11451M-trunk  (DarwinX8632)!

? (concatenate 'string '("a" "b" "cde"))
Openmcl-devel mailing list
Openmcl-devel&lt; at &gt;clozure.com
http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
</description>
    <dc:creator>Gary Byers</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T18:19:23</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3044</link>
    <description>Hi Gary,

On Nov 30, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Gary Byers wrote:



Unfortunately, I'm running the same platform (OS X 10.5, 32-bit Intel)  
and I saw the same error when I was making other, much stupider  
mistakes today. Namely with these:

  (concatenate 'string '("a" "b" "cde"))
  (coerce '("a" "b" "cd") 'string)

Under SBCL, I get the following type error:

*  (concatenate 'string '("a" "b" "cde"))

debugger invoked on a TYPE-ERROR in thread #&lt;THREAD "initial thread"  
RUNNING {1192B6B9}&gt;:
   The value "a" is not of type CHARACTER.

Type HELP for debugger help, or (SB-EXT:QUIT) to exit from SBCL.

restarts (invokable by number or by possibly-abbreviated name):
   0: [ABORT] Exit debugger, returning to top level.

(SB-IMPL::OPTIMIZED-DATA-VECTOR-SET
  #&lt;unavailable argument&gt;
  #&lt;unavailable argument&gt;
  #&lt;unavailable argument&gt;)
0]


But under CCL (trunk) I get this:

? (concatenate 'string '("a" "b" "cde"))
 &gt; Error: value #&lt;Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB&gt; is not of the  
expected type CCL::UVECTOR.
 &gt; While </description>
    <dc:creator>Daniel Lyons</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T17:45:23</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: value * is not of the expected type LIST</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3043</link>
    <description>
On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Cyrus Harmon wrote:


This should be fixed in the trunk now.  Thanks for the bug report.



</description>
    <dc:creator>R. Matthew Emerson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T07:12:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: NSOpenPanel display bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3042</link>
    <description>
On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:03 PM, R. Matthew Emerson wrote:


this was it - I just edited the plist file.

Thanks for your help,

warmest regards,

Ralph







Raffael Cavallaro, Ph.D.
raffaelcavallaro&lt; at &gt;mac.com
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    <dc:creator>Raffael Cavallaro</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T03:20:25</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: NSOpenPanel display bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3041</link>
    <description>
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Raffael Cavallaro wrote:



I couldn't duplicate what you're seeing on my machine, but I wouldn't  
be surprised if there was some bad data in the defaults database.

To look at the defaults database, run one of the following two commands:

defaults read "com.clozure.Clozure CL" (if you launch via a double- 
clickable app)
or
defaults read "com.clozure.temp bundle" (if you start the IDE via  
(require 'cocoa))

I'd look for a suspicious entry for "NSTableView Columns  
NSNavOutlineColumnSettings.v1" or something like that.  "NSNav" is the  
substring to look for.  (The system saves the order of the columns,  
the sort order of the columns, and other stuff like that in the  
defaults database.  I'm guessing this information got screwed up  
somehow.)  If you see something weird, delete it with a command like:

defaults delete  "com.clozure.Clozure CL" "NSTableView Columns  
NSNavOutlineColumnSettings.v1"

If you don't care to go spelunking in the defaults database, and don't  
car</description>
    <dc:creator>R. Matthew Emerson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T03:03:23</dc:date>
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    <title>NSOpenPanel display bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3040</link>
    <description>If I execute this simple bit of code (or any other call to  
NSOpenPanel) I get multiple Date Modified columns. These then persist  
in new launches of the CCL IDE. At first there were just two, but now  
there are a total of 4. Restarting the IDE doesn't change this, nor  
does logging out, or restarting, or rebuilding ccl. Finally, these  
extra columns are also present in the IDE's open file dialog as well:

(#/runModalForTypes: (#/openPanel (&lt; at &gt;class "NSOpenPanel")) nil)





Any Idea what's going on here?

regards,

Ralph





Raffael Cavallaro, Ph.D.
raffaelcavallaro&lt; at &gt;mac.com

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    <dc:creator>Raffael Cavallaro</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T02:18:44</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3039">
    <title>value * is not of the expected type LIST</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3039</link>
    <description>

and here's another CCL issue that happens on both x86 and x8664 on  
Darwin.

The problem seems to have something to do with declarations of the form:

(declare (type (simple-array ,element-type *) ,vals))

changing the * to (*) seems to fix the problem, but it would seem that  
* should work here as well, declaring that this is a simple-array, not  
that it is a simple array of one dimension of unknown size.

thanks again,

cyrus



value * is not of the expected type LIST.
    [Condition of type TYPE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [RETRY-COMPILE-FILE] Retry compiling #P"/Users/sly/projects/ 
git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/matrix.lisp"
  1: [SKIP-COMPILE-FILE] Skip compiling #P"/Users/sly/projects/ 
git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/matrix.lisp"
  2: [TRY-RECOMPILING] Try recompiling matrix
  3: [RETRY] Retry performing #&lt;COMPILE-OP NIL #x3000415CB7DD&gt; on #&lt;CL- 
SOURCE-FILE "matrix" #x3000415BA4DD&gt;.
  4: [ACCEPT] Continue, treating #&lt;COMPILE-OP NIL #x3000415CB7DD&gt; on  
#&lt;CL-SOURCE-FILE "matrix" #x3000415BA4DD&gt; as having</description>
    <dc:creator>Cyrus Harmon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T22:59:17</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3038</link>
    <description>
On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Cyrus Harmon wrote:


I think I fixed the error reporting bug in r11449.  Thanks for  
pointing that out.

http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/changeset/11449


</description>
    <dc:creator>R. Matthew Emerson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T21:13:24</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3037">
    <title>yet another ccl/x86 issue</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3037</link>
    <description>The combination of ccl and my code seems to be quite good at picking  
up subtle "issues" in both systems. Here's the latest:

Bug (probably): can't determine class of #&lt;BOGUS object &lt; at &gt; #x8F1F7B6&gt;
    [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [LOAD-SOURCE] Load  
"home:projects;git.cyrusharmon.org;clem;src;subtr.lisp" instead of "/ 
Users/sly/projects/git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/ccl-1.3-darwin-x86/ 
subtr.dx32fsl"
  1: [RECOMPILE] Compile  
"home:projects;git.cyrusharmon.org;clem;src;subtr.lisp" into "/Users/ 
sly/projects/git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/ccl-1.3-darwin-x86/ 
subtr.dx32fsl" then load "/Users/sly/projects/git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/ 
src/ccl-1.3-darwin-x86/subtr.dx32fsl" again
  2: [RETRY-LOAD] Retry loading #P"/Users/sly/projects/ 
git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/ccl-1.3-darwin-x86/subtr.dx32fsl"
  3: [SKIP-LOAD] Skip loading #P"/Users/sly/projects/ 
git.cyrusharmon.org/clem/src/ccl-1.3-darwin-x86/subtr.dx32fsl"
  4: [LOAD-OTHER] Load other file instead of #P"/Users/sly/projects/ 
git.cyrushar</description>
    <dc:creator>Cyrus Harmon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T18:47:03</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3036">
    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3036</link>
    <description>
Yes, changing the :element-type in with-open-file from :default to  
'(unsigned-byte 8) makes the problem go away on both x86 and x86-64.  
So it looks like it is a combination of some sort of problem with the  
error reporting pathway and a creeping SBCL-ism that should be fixed.

thanks,

cyrus

On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Cyrus Harmon wrote:

</description>
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    <dc:date>2008-12-01T16:49:23</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3035</link>
    <description>
One reliable way to reproduce the bug (?) is to try loading a TIFF  
file using my retrospectiff package:

To reproduce:

1. install retrospectiff, which can be found at:

http://git.cyrusharmon.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=retrospectiff.git

2. enter the following from the retrospectiff directory in ccl:

(asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :retrospectiff)
(defparameter *snow-image* (retrospectiff:read-tiff-file "images/ 
snow.tiff"))


Interestingly, this also fails in x86-64 darwin, but with a more  
sensible error message. So perhaps it's a bug in my code that is  
triggering a deficient error mechanism:



#\M doesn't match array element type of #(0 0).
    [Condition of type SIMPLE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [RETRY] Retry SLIME REPL evaluation request.
  1: [ABORT] Return to SLIME's top level.
  2: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this thread
  3: [ABORT] Kill this thread

Backtrace:
   0: (CCL::GENERIC-CHARACTER-READ-VECTOR #&lt;BASIC-FILE-CHARACTER-INPUT- 
STREAM ("/Users/sly/projects/git.cyrusharmon.org/retrospectiff/images/ 
snow.ti</description>
    <dc:creator>Cyrus Harmon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T16:02:37</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3034">
    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3034</link>
    <description>
My bug writing skills have clearly atrophied. Yes, this is 32-bit x86  
on darwin (10.5.5). This is in the trunk (or the trunk as of a couple  
days ago). It's quite possible that I'm the culprit by lying to the  
compiler with various declarations in ways that SBCL isn't offended  
by. I'll see what I can do about a reproducible test case.

thanks,

cyrus

On Nov 30, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Gary Byers wrote:

</description>
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    <dc:date>2008-12-01T15:35:43</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3033">
    <title>Re: (setf (find-class ...) ...) problem</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3033</link>
    <description>Hi there,

Section 4.3.1 defines what a proper name of a class is. The  
restriction is there because otherwise you could have ambiguities in  
the type system. (Two different classes can have the same name, but  
only one can have that name as a proper name.)


Pascal

On 1 Dec 2008, at 06:04, Cyrus Harmon wrote:


</description>
    <dc:creator>Pascal Costanza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T08:20:55</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3032</link>
    <description>It's hard to respond to something like this without knowing what version
of the lisp you're running.  Unless you're really sure that that information
is irrelevant, it's generally a good idea to include it when reporting a
problem like this.

My best guess is that you're running some 32-bit X86 version on Darwin.
On that platform, #xeb is just a placeholder value used to reserve
space for an outgoing stack frame in some cases; nothing's supposed
to ever "see" that marker value.  Having one of these things get
passed around is indicative of a fairly serious bug (the compiler's
lost track of what's on the stack, or the runtime is pushing or
popping more than it's supposed to, or something like that.)

It's been a while since I've seen that sort of bug in the x86-32
trunk lisps, but that doesn't mean that such a bug isn't still
there.  If it is still present in the trunk, then knowing how to
reproduce it would be helpful.


On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Cyrus Harmon wrote:

</description>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3031">
    <title>Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel/3031</link>
    <description>
Ok, so my latest issue in trying to port my stuff to ccl is the error  
shown below. Not sure where to begin with this one.

thanks,

Cyrus

value #&lt;Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB&gt; is not of the expected type  
CCL::UVECTOR.
    [Condition of type TYPE-ERROR]

Restarts:
  0: [RETRY] Retry SLIME REPL evaluation request.
  1: [ABORT] Return to SLIME's top level.
  2: [ABORT-BREAK] Reset this thread
  3: [ABORT] Kill this thread

Backtrace:
   0: ((:INTERNAL CCL::%XERR-DISP))
   1: (CCL::FUNCALL-WITH-ERROR-REENTRY-DETECTION #&lt;CCL:COMPILED- 
LEXICAL-CLOSURE (:INTERNAL CCL::%XERR-DISP) #x688A2E&gt;)
   2: (CCL::%XERR-DISP -334757490)
   3: (CCL::%PASCAL-FUNCTIONS% 2 -334757490)
   4: (CCL::%PR-INTEGER #&lt;Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB&gt; 10  
#&lt;SWANK-BACKEND::SLIME-OUTPUT-STREAM #x8AE5026&gt; T NIL)
   5: (CCL::%RSC-STRING #&lt;Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB&gt;)
   6: (CCL::%ERR-DISP-INTERNAL #&lt;Unprintable CCL::IMMEDIATE : #xEB&gt; (# 
\M #(0 0)) 1564382)
   7: (READ-SEQUENCE #(0 0) #&lt;BASIC-FILE-CHARACTER-INPUT-STREAM (</description>
    <dc:creator>Cyrus Harmon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T05:07:19</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: (setf (find-class ...) ...) problem</title>
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    <description>Gary,

Thanks for the thoughtful explanation. Explicitly deftype'ing the  
class first sounds reasonable to me. I've asked the cxml-stp  
developers for their opinion as well.

thanks again,

cyrus

On Nov 30, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Gary Byers wrote:

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    <title>Re: how to use quicktime</title>
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On Nov 30, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Alexander Repenning wrote:



Welcome to Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.2-r11429M  (DarwinX8664)!
? (require 'cocoa)
[...]

;;; open shared library, use interface dir, update objc bridge info
? (objc:load-framework "QTKit" :qtkit)
NIL
? (make-instance 'ns:q-t-movie-view)
#&lt;Q-T-MOVIE-VIEW &lt;QTMovieView: 0x127c1b00 frame = { 0, 0 }, QTMovie =  
0x0&gt; (#x127C1B00)&gt;
?

http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/wiki/AddressBook is another example  
(but it uses the AddressBook framework instead of QTKit).
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    <dc:creator>R. Matthew Emerson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T02:15:03</dc:date>
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