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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11595">
    <title>Re: portableaserve threads problems gone</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11595</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Martin,
     It's been several months,  and we still not seen a single failure  
due this this bug,  so I consider your fix to be a total success!

thank you,

Lawrence Au
Sauriel LLC.
On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Lawrence Au wrote:


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    <dc:creator>Lawrence Au</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T22:43:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Clon 1.0b22 is out</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11594</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

  FYI, this new release now supports LispWorks. Thanks to Martin for
providing a fully functional version of LW 6.1.

http://www.didierverna.com/sciblog/index.php?post/2012/05/22/Clon-1.0b22-is-out

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T12:36:42</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: *error-output* and stderr</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11593</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

On 15 mai 2012, at 19:49, Martin Simmons wrote:


Thank you Martin, somehow I must have missed something because I saw this function but it didn't work for me.
A simple test case shows it obviously works properly:


;;;
;;; Use Build Application to produce an executable
;;;

(defun test ()
  (let ((*error-output* (sys:make-stderr-stream)))
    (write-string "This is on the standard output")
    (terpri)
    (write-string "This is on the error output" *error-output*)
    (terpri *error-output*)))

(compile 'test)

(deliver 'test
         "~/test.out"
         5)


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    <dc:creator>Camille Troillard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-15T18:11:10</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: *error-output* and stderr</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11592</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

The default value of *terminal-io* writes to stdout and you can make a stream
for stderr by calling system:make-stderr-stream.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Martin Simmons</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-15T17:49:21</dc:date>
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    <title>capi:clone</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11591</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Is capi:clone implemented for the standard pinboard objects?  I would have expected so, but it appears not to be the case (in LW61):

(capi:clone (make-instance 'capi:capi-object))

fails, same as for capi:ellipse.  Comments welcome.

pt

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    <dc:creator>Paul Tarvydas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-15T14:45:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Capi input model on Mac OS X 10.7 for key/character does not work!</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11590</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I am trying to run the input-model.lisp example under:
examples/capi/output-panes/input-model.lisp

However, except mouse inputs; key and char inputs do not work.

I am on Mac OS X 10.7 running Lispworks 6.0 Personal edition.

Any ideas appreciated?

Thanks,
Deepak
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    <dc:creator>Deepak Surti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-15T09:50:38</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11589">
    <title>*error-output* and stderr</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11589</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Hello,

I am working on a delivered executable on Mac OS X.
How do I send *error-output* to stderr and *standard-output* to stdout?


Best Regards,
Camille


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    <dc:creator>Camille Troillard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-14T15:31:19</dc:date>
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    <title>Remove me  from the mail list</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11588</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dear sir, 

 

could you please remove me  from the mail list, since I could not
find the way to do it myself.

 

Thank you in advance

 

 

 

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    <dc:creator>???</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T11:37:16</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11587">
    <title>Use of '--' on the command-line</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11587</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

  And here's a suggestion: it would be nice if Lispworks complied with
Posix by ignoring what's after '--' on its command-line (all other
compilers currently do so).

AFAICUI, the current behavior is to ignore options unknown to Lispworks,
and leave everything in *line-arguments-list*. This is almost OK because
you can pass any user-specific option to your session, but the problem
is the risk of collision with options that Lispworks already handles.

For instance, you cannot currently say something like this:

lispworks -load mystuff.lisp -- -build myprog ; myprog non-existant

because Lispworks tries to handle -build itself.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T09:22:35</dc:date>
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    <title>Remove me from the mailing list</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11586</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Dear sir, 

could you please remove me  from the mail list, since I could not
find the way to do it myself.

Thank you in advance

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    <dc:creator>Sally Sangwon Park</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T07:40:27</dc:date>
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    <title>Remove me  from the mail list</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dear sir, 


could you please remove me  from the mail list, since I could not
find the way to do it myself.

Thank you in advance
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    <dc:creator>aouss gabash</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T06:51:12</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11584">
    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11584</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

  FWIW, here's a new version with more robust support for non
FILE-STREAMs and with support for Lispworks SYSTEM::TERMINAL-STREAMs as
well...


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T22:18:02</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11583">
    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11583</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

  TIOCGWINSZ. It's for Clon. The idea is to figure out whether the
stream is connected to a terminal and (when that's the case) get the
terminal size at the same time.

The most common situation is a standalone application doing 'app --help'
or 'app --help &amp;gt; file' on a terminal (which involves *standard-output*
in both cases).

In case you're interested, I'm attaching the file doing this in the
current version of Clon. It supports 7 implementations in various ways
(CFFI or some implementation-specific version). The current code would
probably break for esoteric streams (checking slime streams is on my
TODO List) but it works for the intended usage at least.


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T18:56:43</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11582</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Yes, kind of (there is one for stderr as well).



It isn't printed anywhere by default.  The underlying stdout on the Mac is
connected to the Console log, but we don't want to write the LispWorks startup
banner there every time, so the output it collected in memory and written to
the emergency terminal window if the IDE crashes back to the terminal debugger
for some reason.



That could be risky on a file descriptor that you don't control (and could be
of an unknown type, e.g. pipe, tty).  Which ioctl is it?  Possibly LispWorks
should include an API for it?



That's probably a "no" then -- LispWorks doesn't link with cygwin, so it won't
be calling cygwin's ioctl.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Martin Simmons</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T17:10:54</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11581</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Martin Simmons wrote:


  Hmmm, so is this a singleton?



  Is there a way to know where it will be printed ?



  Perform an ioctl on it.



  Err, not sure :-) In fact, I think it should under cygwin, but
probably not otherwise.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T16:39:11</dc:date>
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    <title>remove from the mail list</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11580</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Dear sir,  please remove me  from the mail list, since I could not
find the way to do it myself. Thank you


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>zhao yh</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T16:11:36</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11579">
    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11579</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

TERMINAL-STREAM on Unix-like OSes always uses fd 1 (but note that output to
*TERMINAL-IO* will not be written there by default in a GUI application).

What will be the foreign code do with the fd?  Is this code supposed to work
on Windows?

__Martin


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    <dc:creator>Martin Simmons</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T16:09:06</dc:date>
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    <title>linux ide question</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11578</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Hi,

I'm using the following in my .lispworks

;; initially from http://article.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/3122
;; the small annoying window toolbar is called lispworks-echo-podium
;; note that lispwoks has lispworks-podium, but is not exported
(defparameter *the-echo-podium* nil)

(define-action "CAPI Create Interface"
              "catch the echo podium"
              #'(lambda (interface)
                  (when (typep interface 'lw-tools:lispworks-echo-podium)
                    (capi:hide-interface interface nil)
                    (setf *the-echo-podium* interface))))

;; I tried to kill the podium in the previous stage, but it seems that
it is being checked for at startup, so I needed to catch it,
;; and then kill it later on
(define-action "Initialize LispWorks Tools"
              "Kill this echo podium"
               #'(lambda (obj)
                   (declare (ignore obj))
                   (capi:quit-i&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ala'a Mohammad</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T16:04:18</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11577">
    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11577</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Tim Bradshaw &amp;lt;tfb&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;cley.com&amp;gt; wrote:


  Yeah, that's true. It seems to me that TERMINAL-STREAMs should,
though. As per Paul's suggestion, I introspected a bit and the only
thing I could see so far is a slot named OUTPUT-HANDLE which sounds
kinda nice, but its value for *terminal-io* is T, not an fd... :-/



  Probably (hence Nick's suggestion). However, even in a standalone
console application (delivered from Lispworks), a TERMINAL-STREAM such
as *terminal-io* has no relation with an OS stream, and that currently
escapes me...

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Didier Verna</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T15:52:43</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11576">
    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11576</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

Not a clue then. Sorry.

- nick


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Nick Levine</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T15:23:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: accessing a stream's file descriptors</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.lispworks.general/11575</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;That's not necessarily an FD, e.g. in IDE mode *standard-output* is an editor stream, not a file descriptor.

It would be an FD if you delivered the app.  So, inspect (interactively) *terminal-stream* to figure out what the fields are, then deliver a test app that displays the values of these fields.  With luck, you might see where the FD (handle) is.

pt&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Paul Tarvydas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T15:12:53</dc:date>
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