http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9106 <pre> You have to specify a different external format with (LOAD "code/hello.lisp" :EXTERNAL-FORMAT :WINDOWS-CP936) for instance. This is because Windows saves the data in some format and ECL has no information to guess it. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-26T08:19:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9105 <pre>Hi Juanjo，I update to new version Ecl. The Chinese words work in windows console now. Thank for your help. But if I write the code into a lisp file and use load command in repl. it report error: ;;; Loading "D:/ecl/code/hello.lisp" Condition of type: STREAM-DECODING-ERROR decoding error on stream #&lt;input stream #P"D:/ecl/code/hello.lisp"&gt; (:EXTERNAL-F ORMAT (:UTF-8 :LF)): the octet sequence (255) cannot be decoded. Available restarts: 1. (CONTINUE) Read next character 2. (USE-VALUE) Replace the bogus sequence with a character 3. (RESTART-TOPLEVEL) Go back to Top-Level REPL. Broken at SI:BYTECODES. [Evaluation of: (LOAD "code/hello.lisp")] In: #&lt;process TOP-LEVEL&gt;. I export the file as utf-8 or utf-16, it's all failed. C.M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint secur</pre> cm 2012-05-26T02:58:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9104 <pre>On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll &lt; juanjose.garciaripoll-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: Sorry for the noise. I just noticed that my build script redirects the output and thus ECL never got to see a console when executing programs. I will produce a fix tonight. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-25T22:19:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9103 <pre> I have read your bug report, and I understand that ecl_stream_to_handle() is incomplete, but on my system (VS2010) it does not get called at all. What build flags are you using? Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-25T21:43:26 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9102 <pre> Unfortunately, ECL's streams do not keep line number information. I do not see how it could be done without adding a significant overhead on the I/O routines. An alternative would be to adopt Pascal's solution: count the number of newlines up to that position only when the error is output. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-25T21:41:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9101 <pre>I used visual studio 2008 It seems that both 32 and 64bit versions fails with assertion in function ecl_stream_to_handle where s-&gt;stream.mode == 0x11 (sww_io_wcon) Full stack traces: http://redplait.blogspot.com/2012/05/ecl-1251-on-xp64.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> red plait 2012-05-25T16:02:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9100 <pre> Like this: (ql:quickload :com.informatimago.common-lisp.lisp-text) (use-package :com.informatimago.common-lisp.lisp-text.source-text) (position 30 (:build-line-index "/tmp/hello.lisp") :test (function &lt;)) --&gt; 2 </pre> Pascal J. Bourguignon 2012-05-23T09:41:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9099 <pre>On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:10:39 +0800 cm &lt;xiao.ao.jiang.hu.cm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: Not that it wouldn't be nice to have both line and position reported, but note that emacs allows to jump to a character position within a file (see the goto-char command). </pre> Matthew Mondor 2012-05-23T09:36:55 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9098 <pre>I write a hello.lisp file like this: (print "hi") (length '(a . b 1)) and I load it in to ecl: ;;; Loading "D:/ECL/code/hello.lisp" "hi" Condition of type: SIMPLE-READER-ERROR Reader error in file #&lt;input stream #P"D:/ECL/code/hello.lisp"&gt;, position 30: Too many objects after a list dot Available restarts: 1. (RESTART-TOPLEVEL) Go back to Top-Level REPL. Broken at SI:BYTECODES. [Evaluation of: (LOAD "code/hello.lisp")] In: #&lt;process TOP-LEVEL&gt;. It has not line number in error message but postion 30. I found it is the position of characters. how to get the line number of code from error message? Thank for your help! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122</pre> cm 2012-05-23T05:10:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9097 <pre> I checked again the sources. The MSVC port does not have an option to build ECL statically. This does not mean that it cannot be done --- actually the code in ECL is there --- but this functionality was not included in the Makefiles when adapting ECL for Microsoft's compilers. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-22T21:32:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9096 <pre>I want to build a program without the need of ecl.dll, Is there anyone can help me ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Ecls-list mailing list Ecls-list-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ecls-list </pre> lookwong 2012-05-21T03:09:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9095 <pre>Hi everybody, after spending two days reading stuff about documented and undocumented functionality in Microsoft's API and CRT, I have come to the following conclusions: * In Windows, it is impossible to reasonably use POSIX functions to read/write text from the console without letting the console do some translation for you. * Moreover, POSIX's functions do not work, because read() and write() may actually read or write more bytes from the buffer thant you would want, precisely due to this "clever" translation. * This all renders the CRT unusable, and as stated in a MSDN blog from Windows, one should stick to the Console read and write operations and forget about C entirely. Well, I have coded a prototype of a Lisp stream for the console. ECL now has code that will detect whether the input/output/error channels are consoles and wrap them around with these streams. Moreover, it will also detect the current codepage and use it as external format for the stream. All this is pretty much experimental and I n</pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-19T08:12:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9094 <pre>On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll &lt; juanjose.garciaripoll-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: I am really puzzled. I have dug through Python's code and there is nothing special about the input/output operations, yet they do fail in any decent program. Moreover, _setmode() does not even work properly, and for weird codepages one actually has to use ReadConsole :-/ http://alfps.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/unicode-part-2-utf-8-stream-mode/#utf8_mode_input_fixed Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-18T17:01:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9093 <pre>Probably this might be the answer: Windows is processing the text in those streams, an action that can be reversed http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/tw4k6df8%28VS.80%29.aspx On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:43 AM, cm &lt;xiao.ao.jiang.hu.cm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-18T06:37:38 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9092 <pre>I had try Python2.7 console in the Windows, it work fine. code page is 936, and i used google pinyin input method. Python 2.7 (r27:82525, Jul 4 2010, 09:01:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win 32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. o 好 I dont know the difference of input code between Ecl and Python, maybe the Python code is usefull to you. 2012/5/18 Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll &lt;juanjose.garciaripoll-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Ecls-list mailing list Ecls-list-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ecls-list </pre> cm 2012-05-18T05:43:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9091 <pre>Test program: #include &lt;fcntl.h&gt; #include &lt;errno.h&gt; int main() { char buffer; int ok; do { ok = read(0, &amp;buffer, 1); printf("\ncode=%d %x errno=%d, ok=%d", buffer, buffer, errno, ok); } while (ok &gt; 0); } Output: C:\cygwin\home\Juanjo\src\ecl\win32&gt;chcp 936 Active code page: 936 C:\cygwin\home\Juanjo\src\ecl\win32&gt;echo 亀 | foo.exe code=-127 ffffff81 errno=0, ok=1 code=119 77 errno=0, ok=1 code=32 20 errno=0, ok=1 code=10 a errno=0, ok=1 code=10 a errno=0, ok=0 C:\cygwin\home\Juanjo\src\ecl\win32&gt;foo.exe 亀 code=-127 ffffff81 errno=22, ok=-1 So it definitely seems that Windows's C library does not allow input ifrom the console n other codepages? Juanjo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. htt</pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-17T22:44:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9090 <pre>Seems this is a console problem. The operating system is complaining because the character you are writing does not belong to the codepage 936. The error happens way before ECL, because it is the operating system call read() that complains and ECL just sees this error. Apparently GHC has the same problem ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7511393/haskell-output-non-ascii-characters ). An indication that this might be so isthe fact that ECL can read the same text from a file. But perhaps somebody here knows more than me on the subject. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-17T22:21:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9089 <pre> This seems to have something to do with Windows. If I used read() on the terminal and I input chinese characters, the C library will complain. Probably it is trying to map the input (Unicode, chinese, etc) to a character type and it fails miserably. If I instead use utf8, nothing bad happens. Really weird. Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-17T22:04:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9088 <pre>And input this command in console: chcp 936 2012/5/17 Konovalov, Vadim (Vadim)** CTR ** &lt; vadim.konovalov-cfy2TCaE7SFv+uJa97DSA9BPR1lH4CV8&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Ecls-list mailing list Ecls-list-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ecls-list </pre> cm 2012-05-17T09:46:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9087 <pre>in Control panel, "regional and language options", "Advanced" tab, select Chinese, [cid:312203310&lt; at &gt;17052012-2899] in "languages" tab, "install files for East Asian languages" should also be selected On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:31 AM, cm &lt;xiao.ao.jiang.hu.cm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&lt;mailto:xiao.ao.jiang.hu.cm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;&gt; wrote: I build Ecl on Window XP with Visual Studio. the code page of cmd console is cp936. Do you know how I can change this in a Windows? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Ecls-list mailing list Ecls-list-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;publ</pre> Konovalov, Vadim (Vadim)** CTR ** 2012-05-17T09:36:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.ecl.general/9086 <pre> Do you know how I can change this in a Windows? Juanjo </pre> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll 2012-05-17T09:30:17 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.lisp.ecl.general