gmane.linux.utilities.smartmontools

Re: Problems with two broken disks

Richard Hartmann — 2008-12-03T16:38:48

I am using it atm. Seems to be exactly what I wanted. Thanks :) It was a hardware RAID. Thankfully, it was a mirrored one, so I am relatively fine. Once I know how much extra fat the 3ware controller added to the beginning of the disks, I will trim that off of the images I created and run normal recovery tools on it. I will treat both images idendently, as if there never was any RAID. That's probably the easiest thing to do. In related news, what should I use to restore data from NTFS partitions in whatever NTFS version Win Server 2003 uses? My expertise with Windows is rather limited, I fear. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Problems with two broken disks

Jeremy James — 2008-12-03T15:23:20

Indeed. dd_rescue is a great tool for this to skip over bad sectors. Basically, you should be attempting to create a third disk with the data from both - run dd_rescue from one, then use the other disk for the chunks where there were failures. Once done, you could use mdadm to zero the disk superblock, and create a new raid1 (possibly with a missing devices if you intend to keep on using this as a new raid) and mount your new RAID device - having run a fsck to see if anything (and what) is broken first. I'm assuming linux/md RAID - if you're on a hardware card then the procedure should be similar, although more care might be needed around the relevant equivalent to a superblock. You're lucky to be working with RAID1 - this would be far more messy on a RAID5! -jeremy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize

Re: Problems with two broken disks

Justin Piszcz — 2008-12-03T15:07:34

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Richard Hartmann wrote: One option before going to the professionals is to mount the RAID1 if at all possible and use rsync to try and read all of the files off and then skip the bad files (where rsync dies), saved a few disks like this in the past. What others may also mention is dd_rescue but I have not tried that myself. Justin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Sunny Song/Singapore/HGST is out of theoffice.

2008-12-03T15:06:47

I will be out of the office starting 12/01/2008 and will not return until 12/08/2008. If there is any urgent issues, pls contact my backup Mr. Kenny Lim at "kenny.lim< at >hitachigst.com " or Mr. Roger Kwan at "roger.kwan< at >hitachigst.com" . Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Problems with two broken disks

Richard Hartmann — 2008-12-03T14:56:56

Hi all, I have two disks which used to be in a RAID which managed to die at the same time. I will paste the relevant dd & smartctl output below. Does anyone have any ideas how I could get more data off those disks? Is professional help our only chance? A huge thanks in advance! If you need any other information, please do not hesitate to contact me. Richard Disk 3LJ33MQ7 : root< at >grml ~ # dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdc1/3LJ33MQ7.img bs=64k dd: reading `/dev/sda': Input/output error 49164+1 records in 49164+1 records out 3222016000 bytes (3.2 GB) copied, 210.116 s, 15.3 MB/s dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sdc1/3LJ33MQ7.img bs=64k 0.06s user 9.42s system 4% cpu 3:30.12 total 1 root< at >grml ~ #smartctl -a /dev/sda smartctl version 5.38 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus family Device Model: ST3200822AS Serial Number: 3LJ33MQ7 Firmware Version: 3.01

Re: smartd/smartctl offlining drives

Bruce Allen — 2008-12-02T22:30:48

Hi Richard, I don't know what change might be responsible for this. I have not seen other reports of similar behavior. Sorry that I can't be of more help. Cheers, Bruce On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Richard Scobie wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

help needed

american eagle — 2008-12-02T17:20:06

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Re: SAMSUNG HM121HI SMART weird values(Dell), Help

Darío Andrés — 2008-11-27T22:02:06

This mails was sended 2 weeks ago and I didn't get an answer, so I'm now subscripted to the mailist and I'm re-sending this mail. In this time, the SMART values changed and some ERRORs appeared: --- SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 252 252 025 Pre-fail Always - 1937 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 15381 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 1523 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 480 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 094 094 000 Old_age Always - 6686

Re: Ninth(?) Velociraptor replacement or md(RAID)/smartmontools(?) bug? (fwd)

Justin Piszcz — 2008-11-21T12:11:03

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Alan Cox wrote: So the only thing in common is WD disks. I don't know at this point.. NCQ with WD disks (at least raptor150s/300s) is completely broken and I have to disable it to use the disks without NCQ errors and dropping out of arrays (on 3 diff) systems with different chipsets, p35, 965. This guy has the same errors I do when I enable NCQ. It seems like WD raptors should be blacklisted from using NCQ in the kernel. NCQ: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/17/380 Concerning my error specifically: How much time have you spent replacing and RMA'ing disks? Personally for me I spent $3600 on new velociraptors but after having spend hours, days with doing testing, replacing, I have spent much more in time than the drives are worth. I am really getting sick and tired of it, every few days or every week its another drive failure (or more). What are you plans, just keep RMA'ing and hopefully they'll find the bug and fix it or just give up and build a new system for production and the

Re: a temperature conversion question

Alfred Ganz — 2008-11-20T14:03:13

Bruce, Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:16:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [smartmontools-support] a temperature conversion question Sorry I can't be more helpful. Thanks so much for your detailed explanation. BTW, after some more watching logs, in my case the normalization function for "190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel" seems to be: value = 100 - raw_value Thanks again for your help, AG

Re: a temperature conversion question

Bruce Allen — 2008-11-20T10:16:07

The conversion from Raw to Normalized values is vendor-specific and Attribute-specific. So this is not an indication of a bug. One of the normalized values might track the temperature in a linear way. The other normalized value might be set up so that (for example) it ignores temperature changes on time scales of less than one hour. Or it may have some other type of dependence on the actual temperature (raw value). I can't answer this question, other than to say that the manufacturer is free to have an arbitrarily complicated relationship between raw and normalized value. This does not have to be linear, and it might take into account historical data, or data from other Attributes or other aspects of the disk operation. It's a black box, only comprehensible by disassembling the disk firmware, or getting the disk manufacturer to explain what they are up to. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Cheers, Bruce ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF

Re: a temperature conversion question

Alfred Ganz — 2008-11-19T20:28:00

Bruce, Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:20:44 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Allen gravity.phys.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: [smartmontools-support] a temperature conversion question smartd reports the normalized (VALUE) values. You can have it report the raw values (most useful for temperature) with the '-R' directive in smartd.conf. Please see the smartd or smartd.conf man page. I by now understand that smartd does report the normalized temperature values, what bothers me is that while the raw 190 and 194 values are the *same*, the normalized values are different. I presume that this is because there are different normalizations associated with each. I have just started the disk, and then watched the temperatures for a couple of hours with smartctl. The two raw temperatures slowly rose from 31 to 44, and then stayed at that value. Both values always changing at about the same time, and always to the same value. The normalized 194 value being the same as the raw values, while the normalized 190 values

Question for smartmontool users (OFFLINEtesting)..

Justin Piszcz — 2008-11-19T18:27:29

How often do you run offline tests and how much time do you allocate for them? Total time to complete Offline data collection: (4800) seconds How do you fit offline schedules into your short/long schedules, is it best to run them directly after a long test? Does anyone have a link to in-depth documentation on offline testing? Justin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: a temperature conversion question

Bruce Allen — 2008-11-19T17:20:44

Hi Alfred, smartd reports the normalized (VALUE) values. You can have it report the raw values (most useful for temperature) with the '-R' directive in smartd.conf. Please see the smartd or smartd.conf man page. Cheers, Bruce On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Alfred Ganz wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: unstable arc1261 + smartmontools

Bruce Allen — 2008-11-19T08:34:43

Hank, Have you had a chance to look at the debug output from smartctl on Areca? Do you have any idea what is going wrong? I can not reproduce the problem on my systems. Cheers, Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Artem Bokhan wrote: This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/_______________________________________________ Smartmontools-support mailing list Smartmontools-support< at >lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support

Re: Short Test Never Completes

Bruce Allen — 2008-11-19T08:26:29

Great!! I'm glad the problem was not smartmontools, and I'm glad the problem has been fixed! On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Kevin Colbert wrote: This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/_______________________________________________ Smartmontools-support mailing list Smartmontools-support< at >lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support

Re: unstable arc1261 + smartmontools

Christian Franke — 2008-11-19T06:32:59

Sorry, I cannot help here. I don't have an Areca controller :-) Cheers, Christian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: unstable arc1261 + smartmontools

Artem Bokhan — 2008-11-19T06:22:56

May you confirm you received email with debug output? Should I expect any progress soon? Christian Franke пишет: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Smartmontools-support mailing list Smartmontools-support< at >lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools-support

Re: state persistence mode

Christian Franke — 2008-11-18T22:04:04

Hi Florian, the latest official Debian package is 5.38-2 (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/smartmontools). It does not provide the smartd '-s' option and there is no state persistence mode mentioned on the smartd manpage. Cheers, Christian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: state persistence mode

Florian Effenberger — 2008-11-18T18:20:49

Hi Christian, has the Debian and Ubuntu build a bug then? The manpage talks about the state persistence mode, but I don't know how to activate it. Is there any option besides the "-s" parameter to do so? Thanks Florian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: state persistence mode

Christian Franke — 2008-11-18T17:59:08

Sorry, forgot to mention: The -s option is a recent addition not included in the last release tarball (5.38). Please build current version from CVS: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/download.html#CVSInstall Cheers, Christian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/