gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.accessibility

Re: [orca-list] workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca

Alex Midence — 2012-05-24T15:24:03

I can see value in it if you have more than 4 workspaces.  On my Lucid
Vinux installation, I got myself up to 12 workspaces.  I stopped using
more than about five of them because it was too much of a pain to get
to, say workspace 11 or something like that.  Gnome and Unity make
workspaces a bit hard to mess with.  I haven't bothered doing that
ever since.  KDE, on the other hand, is absolutely fantastic for
multiple workspaces incorporating the function keys as hotkeys for
jumping to particular ones and making it extremely easy to add or
remove how many workspaces you use.  I can't wait till all its a11y
issues are worked out as I think it more adequately fits my personal
pc user style than Gnome does.  If I didn't use a screen reader, I'm
sure I'd've used it from the beginning.

Alex M



alex M

On 5/24/12, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: [orca-list] workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca

Alex Midence — 2012-05-24T13:12:27

I can confirm.  Mine's doing the exact same thing.

Alex M

On 5/24/12, Milton <milton-16LDe+ruSk2byly6AaOUig< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca

Dave Hunt — 2012-05-24T14:21:05

Hi,

One could take this even further by setting shortcut keys for moving to 
workspaces 1 through n, making this a one-keystroke operation.  Unless 
there's something critical in the workspace switcher, that needs 
accessibility, I'm ok with this being filed as a low-priority, wishlist 
sort of item in Orca's bug tracker.



Cheers,



Dave





On 05/24/2012 10:16 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

Re: workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca

Christopher Chaltain — 2012-05-24T14:16:23

IMHO, I'm not sure how important it is to get the workspace switcher
accessible. I can't imagine it's easier to use the workspace switcher
than it is to use the hot keys to navigate around your workspaces.
Although maybe the workspace switcher has some other features I'm
ignorant of.

In my vanilla install of Ubuntu Precise with Unity 2D, I start off with
four workspaces. They're laid out in a grid, so I can get to them with
the four control+alt+arrow-keys. The left and right arrow keys will only
take me between two of the workspaces. I have to use the up and down
arrow keys to get to the other two.

On 24/05/12 01:36, Milton wrote:

ability to display icons of mounted volumes on desktop

Vojtěch Polášek — 2012-05-24T12:42:12

Hi, I have stumbled over an interesting tool, called unity-2d-settings.
It allows you change just few settings, but displaying icons of mounted
volumes is among them.
I hope it will help someone.
Just run in terminal:
/sudo add-apt-repository* ppa:krytarik/tuxgarage*/
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install unity-2d-settings

Vojta

workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca

Milton — 2012-05-24T06:36:07

Hi all,
I did a fresh install of Ubuntu Precise and got Orca 3.4.1 running in Unity 2D.
With Control_Alt_arrow-left/right I switch to another workspace.
I like to work in 3 or more workspaces.
With Alt_F1 and down-arrow I found the workspace switcher but Orca only says pane and nothing else. With the flat review Orca go silent. Can you confirm? It will be very helpfull if the workspace switcher is accessible with Orca.
Milton

In Nautilus file browser if the user want renaming a file, creatingnew document and folder the edit box isn't marking editable

Hammer Attila — 2012-05-23T07:42:22

Hy,

In Nautilus 3.4 version if an Onboard or Orca user want renaming a file, 
creating a folder or a new document, the presenting edit box isn't 
marked editable.
Possible writing the new value, but A11y applications doesn't possible 
detecting the change. In Orca for example the user doesn't possible to 
get screen reader output when want deleting a character.
The problem is following with wrote the original reporter:
The AtspiAccessible associated with this widget apparently isn't marked 
editable, i.e. accessible.state_set doesn't contain ATSPI_STATE_EDITABLE.
It would be great if this could be corrected. Other osks may be affected 
too.
This is the original bug report for Onboard:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/936310

This issue is reported with 2012. March 20th. If GNOME developers not 
fixing this issue with Nautilus 3.4.3 version, Ubuntu level possible 
fixing this issue? Accessible rename, folder and document creation is an 
important function.
Upstream report link is following:
https://bu

Re: metacity folder and alt short keystrokes

Hammer Attila — 2012-05-23T07:31:10

Not gsettings-data-convert service generating some time not right 
converted data during the conversion when converting Metacity related 
keybindings?
Why happening lot of type mismatch this situation with more old metacity 
keybinding gconf keys?
Example output if I run gnome-control-center keyboard command in terminal:
GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `string' got `list' for key 
/apps/metacity/window_keybindings/move_to_workspace_left

What the proper component to report this issue?
Oldest time I reported this issue under Launchpad.net with Metacity 
related, and now reported in Bugzilla after I readed Milton letter with 
dconf component with following report:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676616

Note:
In Bugzilla the latest not master version of dconf component is 0.12, 
but in Ubuntu 12.04 packaged with 0.5.1-2 version.

Attila

metacity folder and alt short keystrokes

Milton — 2012-05-23T06:21:15

Hi all,
I did a fresh install of Ubuntu Precise and got Orca 3.4.1 running in Unity 2D.
When Alt_Tab for switching windows, Control_Alt_right-arrow to switch to the next workspace and Control_Super_D for minimizing all windows won't work deleting the .gconf/apps/metacity folder solves the problem after logging out and logging in.
Fortunately Control_Alt_T to open a terminal, Alt_F1 to the launcher still doing fine when this problem occurs.
The next time I starts up the machine I have the same problem with the Alt_Tab, etc. Do I miss something else to do for this problem to solve?
Milton

accessing the root directory from unity in ubuntu 12.04?

Hank Smith — 2012-05-23T03:49:03

Hello I am trying to install my voxin tts engin and need to copy it to 
the main directory of my root in ubuntu 12.04how do I find this using unity?
I don't see a my places unity equivolent.
Hank

Meeting Today

Jacky Alcine — 2012-05-21T15:28:48

As a last minute reminder, we're holding a meeting at 18:15 UTC[1] on
Freenode in #sii regarding the Institute and its future. You can get a
rundown of the agenda at [2]. Thank you.


1. http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=5&day=21&hour=18&min=15&sec=0&p1=179&p2=262
2. http://thesii.org/wiki/Meetings/Agenda-20120621

RE: [orca-list] at-spi2-core 2.4.2 available for testing in Ubuntuprecise proposed.

Alex Midence — 2012-05-18T15:57:46

Ran updates and installed this yesterday.

Thanks.
Alex M

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Subject: [orca-list] at-spi2-core 2.4.2 available for testing in Ubuntu precise proposed.

Hey folks,
As per Orca, at-spi2-core 2.4.2 is available for testing in Ubuntu precise proposed. Instructions on how to enable and test packages from precise-proposed are found in the relevant launchpad bug, https://launchpad.net/bugs/999404. Please test and leave feedback in the bug.

Thanks.

Luke
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Re: do Precise has an alternative for remastersys?

Milton — 2012-05-20T20:30:55

Thanks a lot for helping me out. I found:
http://bikramkawan.com.np/how-to-install-remastersys-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
It works as before with Orca!
Milton
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Subject: Re: do Precise has an alternative for remastersys?

do Precise has an alternative for remastersys?

Milton — 2012-05-19T20:26:24

Hi all,
In Natty I used Remastersys with Orca but I could not find this in Precise Unity 2D. Is there an alternative that is accessible with Orca? I notice the application to create a start up disc which is not accissible with Orca.
Milton

12.04 -- No beep for sticky, slow, and bounce keys features

Luca Ferretti — 2012-05-18T23:34:27

Hi, it seems there is an odd bug in audio feedback for keyboard a11y
features (bug filed against gnome-settings-daemon by now, see [1]),
could please someone confirm it?

Cheers, Luca

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1001490

Re: [orca-list] Orca refuses speech rate keystroke

Milton — 2012-05-18T19:27:30

Many, many thanks for your quick help, it works now!
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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca refuses speech rate keystroke

Orca refuses speech rate keystroke

Milton — 2012-05-18T17:34:42

Hi all,
I did a fresh install of Ubuntu Precise and got Orca 3.4.1 running with espeak. I went to the Orca Preferences to set a keystroke for increasing and decreasing the speech rate as I did In Natty. I set Insert_up-arrow and Insert_down-arrow and those keystrokes also appears in the short key list when I double click Insert_h. But nothing happens after when I press Insert_up-arrow or Insert-down-arrow. Can somebody confirm this and how can I solve this?
Milton

Re: [orca-list] hud is speaking

Krishnakant Mane — 2012-05-17T17:33:39

I have the same experience.
Good to have this working with Orca.
This gives me another reason to stick to precise for at least one more year.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On 05/17/2012 02:01 AM, Vojtěch Polášek wrote:

at-spi2-core 2.4.2 available for testing in Ubuntu precise proposed.

Luke Yelavich — 2012-05-17T03:56:10

Hey folks,
As per Orca, at-spi2-core 2.4.2 is available for testing in Ubuntu precise proposed. Instructions on how to enable and test packages from precise-proposed are found in the relevant launchpad bug, https://launchpad.net/bugs/999404. Please test and leave feedback in the bug.

Thanks.

Luke

Orca 3.4.2 available for testing in Ubuntu precise proposed.

Luke Yelavich — 2012-05-17T03:30:17

Hey folks,
Its that time again. I'm putting out a call for testing to help verify that orca 3.4.2 is in a fit state for general release in precise-updates. You can find more information about how to enable the precise-proposed repository in the launchpad bug for this update, https://launchpad.net/bugs/999399. Please follow the instructions given there, adn report back to the bug with your testing results.

Thanks in advance.

Luke

Re: classic menu indicator in unity is working

Simon Eigeldinger — 2012-05-16T22:01:55

hi,

seems not to work here.
was also on the posted link to recheck.
have you done something else to make it work?

greetings,
simon


Am 16.05.2012 21:04, schrieb Vojtěch Polášek: