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Re: Yum and Yumex

Seth Vidal — 2008-12-04T02:57:37

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Leslie Satenstein wrote: yum install yum-protect-packages -sv

Re: Yum and Yumex

Chuck Anderson — 2008-12-04T02:46:16

I think a reasonable solution would be to have whatever yum plugin installed and configured by default to prevent removal of packages that would break yum itself and other basic tools. Do other distributions' package management tools like apt handle this case?

Re: Yum and Yumex

Leslie Satenstein — 2008-12-04T02:20:20

Re: new kernel prevents graphic boot

Michal Jaegermann — 2008-12-04T01:56:53

Well, that modesetting - on a radeon card - is a constant source of my troubles and broken graphics with F10 and rawhide. :-) Assorted bugzilla reports do exist for quite a while. Michal

Re: Shtt!!

Scott Robbins — 2008-12-04T01:36:13

I wonder how difficult it would be (not being a programmer, I don't know if I'm suggesting something trivial or major, to have some sort of note during the installation dialog itself, to the point of if you want to specify your own URL, reboot with askmethod. (Or the type of note we used to get in installs, saying type text to do textmode, askmethod to do whatever, etc.) I repeat, I have no idea if this is easy to do or not. It's difficult to figure out what are major changes that should be widely broadcast, and what aren't--the trouble is that we tend, I suspect, to not think about things *we* don't use.

Re: Pidgin Problem

Greg — 2008-12-04T00:58:30

have you tried the one in updates-testing?

Re: new kernel prevents graphic boot

Antonio Olivares — 2008-12-04T00:51:22

I have applied the kernel updates, and my machine does not boot :( [olivares< at >localhost ~]$ rpm -qa kernel* kernel-devel-2.6.28-0.106.rc6.git4.fc11.i686 kernel-2.6.28-0.106.rc6.git4.fc11.i686 kernel-headers-2.6.28-0.106.rc6.git4.fc11.i386 I have also other problems with that new kernel, I see errors like eth0 cannot get address because: Can't create /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid: Permission denied mkdir 'var' Cannot create 'var': Permission denied var/lib/dhclient/resolv.conf.predhclinet.eth0' Permission denied, Booting to kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686, I see no errors except for udev message at beginning, also selinux does not deny what it denies the newer kernel It still denies iptables :( Regards, Antonio

Re: Shtt!!

Jesse Keating — 2008-12-04T00:46:18

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:38:28

That assumes one knows it's necessary. It's going to catch a lot of other experienced users.

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:37:37

My point it that _I_ wasn't asked. As Jesse explains, this is by design. Obvious;y I was napping when this was discussed on the anaconda list, I would certainly have complained about it.

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:35:40

In prior releases it wasn't needed. The current implementation needs change, I will not be the only person caught out by it. Westnet.com.au. It's local mirror is mirror.3fl.net.au and I can download stuff from there at about 1.6 Mbytes/sec.

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:32:07

If I were hosting an installfest, I'd set up a server running Fedora or CentOS (or equivalent) on a laptop, set up PXE for those who can network boot, hand out CDs for those who cannot. It's close to what I wanted to do yesterday, a mass-install of Linux on computers being given away. Fedora was my second choice, they ended up with opensuse. Time was short. Cheers John

Pidgin Problem

Affix — 2008-12-04T00:28:51

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:27:56

Right now, Anaconda sets vendor-class-identifier when it asks for an IP address. All it needs to do is use the filename that DHCP can return. vendor-class-identifier is for vendors such as Red Hat and the Fedora Project. It has no implications for any other use. Here are needed snippets in dhcpd.conf: class "anaconda" { match if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 8) = "anaconda" ; option vendor-class-identifier "anaconda"; } pool { allow members of "anaconda"; deny members of "pxeclients"; default-lease-time 900; filename "http://Fedora.demo.lan/5/i386/os/Fedora/"; max-lease-time 1800; range 192.168.9.170 192.168.9.179; option log-servers 192.168.9.4; } It shouldn't be more than a few lines of code.

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:22:55

I read the equivalent document for opensuse, because I;m not very familiar with it. I've not looked at that, but I think any relevant changes a < 2 years old. That is stupid. Ordinarily, I'd have mounted the iso on loopback and used ks, but selinux gets in the way and last time I tried that, the repo format was incompatible with web-serving. Something about those funny URLs with references to or some such. I've not yet seen an announcement for F10, I don't know whether i missed it (I just cleaned up unread announcements but couldn't see one there for it) or what, but I was going to download F9 but found 10 available. U';m running 64-bit F9, but needed 32-bit for older computers.

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:15:40

Er, Jeremy, I thought you'd recall I've been using ks for years. Exactly. Did I mention the amount of my time it wasted?

Re: Shtt!!

John Summerfield — 2008-12-04T00:14:12

They have, it is. Still I got another. In fact, it alternated between two unsuitable mirrors, I think in Sydney and Brisbane. Consequently, even a caching proxy (I have one) would be of limited help over two or three installs. And ks is not suitable for a first-time install. I'm well-practiced with ks, and I was doing a first install to get the system-generated one. It turned out F10 doesn't work on the specific hardware, the problem's been around quite a while and there's no known fix. I ended up installing opensuse 11.0. I got to specify the mirror on the commandline.

Re: new kernel prevents graphic boot

Dave Jones — 2008-12-03T19:29:50

> installed new 28 kernel and my system doesn't boot in runlevel 5. > Some error conencted to DRM, using nvidia card, nv or noveaus driver > is teh same... > Already bug filed Bug 474360 - Kernel prevents graphical boot That'll be due to the lack of kernel modesetting. It hasn't been brought up to date yet, because airlied is still fighting fires in F10. Dave

Re: Yum and Yumex

Jesse Keating — 2008-12-03T17:26:48

Re: Yum and Yumex

Jerry Amundson — 2008-12-03T17:16:17

That states it nicely enough. ;-) This does, however, lead to a potential, um, enhancement ... and that is even with -y, don't remove < at >core. jerry

Re: Yum and Yumex

Jesse Keating — 2008-12-03T16:13:24