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Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-25T22:52:19

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Matthew Summers
<quantumsummers< at >gentoo.org> wrote:

Just to add to this, we have some gentoo.github.com to link interested
parties to gentoo.org et. at.

Please feel free to give ideas for this
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo.github.com viewable at
http://gentoo.github.com

What should we do here, anything? For simplicity I just used what I
did for http://get.gentoo.org

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Pandu Poluan — 2012-05-25T17:34:46

On May 25, 2012 11:18 PM, "Matthew Summers" <quantumsummers< at >gentoo.org>
wrote:
now.

What a kind man.

When the Gentoo github goes fully operational, I think a 'thank you' note
on its main page is in order. Probably linked to the guy's own github page,
if he has one.

Rgds,

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-25T16:32:56

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Vítor Brandão
<vitorbrandao.pt< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Right now, just official gentoo devs and staff. We may change this at
some point in the future. This is still undergoing policy review,
since we obtained the github org unexpectedly.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Vítor Brandão — 2012-05-25T16:23:14

2012/5/25 Matthew Summers <quantumsummers< at >gentoo.org>


Ok, mistery explained.

About organization members, who can join? Anyone with a < at >gentoo.org address?


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Vítor Brandão (noisebleed)

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-25T16:19:15

You should be a member now.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-25T16:18:14

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Vítor Brandão
<vitorbrandao.pt< at >gmail.com> wrote:

It was created then, by someone not affiliated with Gentoo. I noticed
it and emailed the guy. He transferred ownership to me and therefore
to Gentoo.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-25T16:17:03

Hmm, I think it requires a Gravatar account to set a logo. I guess I
can do this, unless someone already has.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Vítor Brandão — 2012-05-25T15:34:16

2012/5/25 Michał Górny <mgorny< at >gentoo.org>


github.com/gentoo "Member since Feb 05, 2009"? I thought it was created now.

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Vítor Brandão (noisebleed)

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Michał Górny — 2012-05-25T15:25:32

On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:13:04 -0500
Matthew Summers <quantumsummers< at >gentoo.org> wrote:


Matt, could you set the organization logo somehow?

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Alexey Shvetsov — 2012-05-23T11:51:41

Hi all!

Can someone add my github acc to gentoo organization? =D

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Rich Freeman — 2012-05-22T14:40:26

Then realize that you just committed an ebuild that lacks some fix the
foo.eclass team quietly made to the previous ebuild when making some
tree-wide tweak.

In maintaining the mythtv ebuilds one of the things I've noticed is
that it is not always easy to keep tree ebuilds in sync with an
external overlay, because people do stuff to the tree all the time
without involving the maintainers.  Usually these are relatively small
changes that are good from a quality perspective (often related to
dependencies/etc), or just stuff like package moves/virtuals/etc, but
the bottom line is that if you just merge some change from an overlay
without doing some checks you can end up with a regression.

So, if people are going to submit patches to help out it is best that
those patches be against what is actually in portage and not some
slowly diverging repository.  The only way to really address this is
to somehow apply changes automatically back into the overlay, but that
has issues as well.

In a git-based world with eas

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Aaron W. Swenson — 2012-05-22T13:57:23

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On 05/21/2012 04:35 PM, Matthew Summers wrote:

I don't understand how this would be painful. In my mind:

 $ cp ~/github/collab/cat/pkgfile.ebuild ~/gentoo/gentoo-x86/cat/pkg/
 $ cd ~/github/collab/cat/pkg
 $ # Follow normal commit steps here.

- - Aaron
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Re: Gentoo mini-summit

Hans de Graaff — 2012-05-22T05:59:06

+1

Hans

Re: Gentoo mini-summit

Donnie Berkholz — 2012-05-22T02:50:43

There's a chance I will be in Germany immediately afterwards to speak at 
EclipseCon Europe (was invited, just need to work out travel funding), 
so I might be able to swing in a couple days early for this. 
Unfortunately it overlaps with the GSoC mentor summit, but that's life.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Matthew Summers — 2012-05-21T20:35:30

So, to summarize so far:

1. Mirroring overlays seems like it is a good idea or at least ok.

2. The portage tree is not ready to be mirrored and attempting a git
workflow will be painful at the moment. It's assumed, however, that
once portage is git-managed these troubles will disappear.

What else folks?

What about mirroring the docs repo? I think its git-managed now or
will be soon. What other repos would benefit from this?

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Markos Chandras — 2012-05-21T17:18:49

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On 05/21/2012 04:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
It will be a pain from our (proxy-maint) side to use git workflow on a
cvs tree. Speaking of myself I am not interested in supporting this
"mixed" kind of collaboration and frankly I see no viable way for
someone to do that in the long term.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: Gentoo mini-summit

Markos Chandras — 2012-05-21T17:14:29

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On 05/21/2012 03:02 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Yeah same for me. Far too early to plan anything

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Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Dan Douglas — 2012-05-21T17:04:01

Managing more than a few eclass/builds fromthe main tree while watching 
upstream (Gentoo) for conflicts is a very difficult workflow. For those projects 
already using git like Kde and Haskell it's at least helpful to be able to 
look at logs and do diffs on my own machine. Users get much more out of having 
git available than those with commit access.

Re: Gentoo now has a Github "organization"

Rich Freeman — 2012-05-21T15:00:17

Tend to agree, although a big liability will be the fact that we're
still not on git ourselves.  So, to be useful that github tree would
to get regular cvs updates incorporated, and then any content would
need to be manually moved over.  The trees would be constantly
slightly out of sync - what happens if somebody commits a fix without
a revbump to git and then the cvs tree refreshes git not showing the
change, and so on?

I guess for proxy-maintained packages we could just consider the
git-tree "official" and do all forward work there without publishing
cvs changes automatically.  Then cvs updates are just manual copies
when things are good in the git tree.  However, the second somebody
comes along with some library package move or other tree-wide change
they're going to make things out of sync unless they know to go update
git.

Seems like overlays are the best candidate for a place to start since
they largely use git already.  Maybe this is just one more reason to
get the main tree onto git as well...

R

Re: Re: Gentoo mini-summit

Theo Chatzimichos — 2012-05-21T14:28:28

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Steven J Long
<slong< at >rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

I sent them already in my duplicate mail [1] (and as a reply to this
thread), the Gentoo part could take place for the weekend 20-21
October

[1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_a477b9265484f6dc700917eee3df1e7f.xml

Re: Gentoo mini-summit

Steven J Long — 2012-05-21T14:14:57


Hard to say when we don't know when it is ;) Yeah, i googled ofc, and it's 
going to be end of October/ beginning of November[1] (for anyone else who 
hasn't searched yet.)


Sounds great: not sure if I'll make it, (I'll have to see nearer the time, 
but I would like to; Prague is a *beautiful* city) but I wish you all the 
best with it.

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Conference