gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp

Foundation Membership Announcement and Application Information

quantumsummers — 2008-11-17T22:52:19

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 = Official Foundation Announcement = All Gentoo community members please take note that the Foundation Bylaws have been changed by unanimous vote of the Trustees. You can find them at the link below for your reading pleasure. http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/BylawsAdopted.xml = Developers = All Gentoo Developers not currently members of the Gentoo Foundation are strongly encouraged to join before 11 January 2009 to be eligible to nominate, vote, and/or stand in the upcoming trustees election. For developers that desire to join the foundation, we have all the necessary info available internally, so please simply email trustees-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org stating you wish to join. = Community = Recent changes to the Foundation Bylaws have expanded foundation membership to include individuals from the entire Gentoo community. In the endeavor to facilitate greater community and communication between the developers and the users of Gentoo and ope

Google AdWords Alert

Google AdWords — 2008-11-07T16:20:30

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November Trustees Meeting Sunday

Roy Bamford — 2008-11-07T15:13:06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, The November meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be held on Sunday 16th November at the normal time of 19:00 UTC in irc.freenode.net in #gentoo-trustees. Your local time may have changed recently - keep that in mind You may read the draft agenda at http://xrl.us/ovinq Please reply to this email with any comments or additional agenda items. The highlight of the meeting will be the discussion and possible adoption of the revised bylaws http://xrl.us/ouqhk which will make it easier for anyone who can demonstrate that they further the aims of the Gentoo Foundation Inc., to become members. Diuscussion on gentoo-nfp please or reply to this email. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkUWwgACgkQTE4/y7nJvasNywCfUqR1sBJ+0UQ5u93UrHwGzmm/ IAoAnAhc0OQ/TTtX7GGoJAK+lVTbOzlU =jMeW -----E

RE: October Gentoo Foundation Trustees Meeting

Chrissy Fullam — 2008-10-02T12:52:26

I'd propose to drop the media from the store completely, it never was a good selling item. We had to ship physical media to CafePress for them to use, no upload options available, and the last time this was done we barely made enough profit off of media to cover the cost of shipping. Other shirts and schwag have been added with the Gentoo logo. Propose design contest to generate new ideas for new items. Need to discuss 'winners get' options. (Sorry, cannot update bug) Kind regards, Christina Fullam Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations

October Gentoo Foundation Trustees Meeting

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-29T18:00:59

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, The October meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be held on Sunday 19th October at the normal time of 19:00 UTC. You may read the draft agenda at http://xrl.us/orb8f Please reply to this email with any comments or additional agenda items. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjhF+MACgkQTE4/y7nJvavxDgCfY7s43jUzPWDERvQ56hVYsA0d k8wAoKfMAkmA+r4kcVsKr3te9wF9S8oI =OzS+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Preparation for potentially separating Foundation officers andtrustees

Ferris McCormick — 2008-09-15T14:10:43

The Foundation bylaws require that we have at least four officers (president, vice president, secretary, and treasurer). They allow us to have a chairman, vice chairman, and other vice presidents as needed. (Bylaws, Article VI). All officers are selected by the Board. Two of these officers have very specific duties: The chairman presides at board meetings, and the vice chairman presides if the chairman is absent. If we do not have these two officers appointed, then their roles fall to the president and the vice president. However, the primary duties of the president and vice president are more traditional: President is the Foundation's CEO and vice president acts in the president's absence. And as we have seen in our efforts to set up a bank account, some banks are interested in personal information about these two officers. In at least one case, we were slowed down because Roy happens to live in Scotland and he is the president. If he had also been the Chairman, we could have named someone else as

Re: [Fwd: European alternative]

Tobias Scherbaum — 2008-09-12T13:32:33

[snip] they have - and the "Foerderverein Gentoo e.V." was founded by a group of Gentoo developers at that time (even before the Gentoo Foundation). Lots of active but also a couple of former Gentoo developers are still members. If there's a demand for new items to add to this site please contact me or mail www-YisLiFbG4SlxTOnk32qkgQ< at >public.gmane.org Thanks, Tobias

Re: [Fwd: European alternative]

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-11T18:28:26

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2008.09.11 12:56, Ferris McCormick wrote: [snip] Peter, There is already http://22258.spreadshirt.net/de/DE/Shop I believe they have an arrangement with the German Gentoo eV which was started by a Gentoo developer. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjJY1AACgkQTE4/y7nJvauXOwCg6DnD1Hez3l200+klGhpRhdFk pV4AnRN+g9z+LDt98+zE4nphIVNFkcbi =uUf9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

[Fwd: European alternative]

Ferris McCormick — 2008-09-11T11:56:26

-------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Peter Asplund public.gmane.org> Reply-To: peterasplund-xYBMnk5ip2SzQB+pC5nmwQ< at >public.gmane.org To: cafepress-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org Subject: European alternative Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:09:59 +0200 (CEST) Hi Gentoo! I'm wondering if it is possible for the Gentoo community to set up an European alternative to CafePress, since their shipment fees to europe is simply ridiculous. I looked around and found one (http://www.creativecraving.co.uk/), but perhaps there are even more of them? I hope it is an alternative, as long as it does not create any cost overhead for the Gentoo foundation/community. I just think it's too bad that my Gentoo mug cost twice the amount in Sweden than it would in USA =) Regards Peter Asplund Sweden

Gentoo Foundation Appointees - Notice

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-06T16:44:14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Following the resignation of Tom Gall as a Trustee and as Secretary of the Gentoo Foundation Inc, the remaining trustees advertised the positions and are pleased to announce the following appointments :- dmwaters as Trustee quantumsummers as Secretary The notices can be reviewed at http://xrl.us/oqggv - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjCs2QACgkQTE4/y7nJvas9LgCgwQgbLlAY2ChEcK8nHT84Z+Ss 0yoAoMBmyvHnoPdCP7AVpJ0ThmipI/HW =aXaN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Re: This is what gentoo has become

Ioannis Aslanidis — 2008-09-04T10:58:52

Nope, it was not a response to you. But I see that things are being done the wrong way, probably because of inexperience. If people are so commonly violating our CoC, then maybe it is our CoC what needs to be fixed and not our developers. In any case, I just want to say that I am very confused about all the situation and in the same time sad to see that indeed people that try to get things done are meeting a wall in front of them. In this situation, looking at it in a cold way, I think that Chrissy has abused a little her position. I do not say it is her fault, these things happen. I want to ask for a little more of moderation and diplomacy when dealing with these situations and not with zero-tolerance. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Ned Ludd public.gmane.org> wrote:

RE: This is what gentoo has become

Chrissy Fullam — 2008-09-03T18:42:36

First, please let's let this thread die as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive for anyone. Second, if either of you have a complaint to raise about a developer kindly file a bug and we will work the issue. Historically user <-> dev issues are handled by Developer Relations but we're more than willing to work with User Relations on any such matter. Kind regards, Christina Fullam Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations

Re: This is what gentoo has become

Ned Ludd — 2008-09-03T18:28:36

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 20:10 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: Sure and if there is a problem with what I said or how I said it then I'm sure I will be approached by the teams that deal with that kinda thing in Gentoo. Otherwise. Everything I'll assert it holds true and that ppl should "work" more than "fight". And if somebody is going to go out of his/her way to call me out. Then hah yeah. I'm going to be rather public with how I feel about said devs behavior. And I'll freely suggest what I think should happen. Also I'm not sure if you are aware but I've meet wltjr a few times, hung out on the peer in SFO etc... And I understand where he is mostly coming from. But that does not mean I would encourage this current disgruntled behavior of his. -peace..

Re: Bylaws question - 4.9, purposes

Ferris McCormick — 2008-09-03T18:24:31

I suspect there's a NM form book containing a skeleton for organizations like ours. Those are "magic words" related to the US tax code. They put our purpose within 501(c)(3), I believe. As I recall, the key is "education". Regards, Ferris

Re: This is what gentoo has become

Wulf C. Krueger — 2008-09-03T18:10:25

Re: Bylaws question - 4.9, purposes

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-03T17:56:13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2008.09.03 00:42, Robin H. Johnson wrote: [snip] Robin, I believe that the Articles of Incorporation were written by drobbins lawyer. From reading up about these things (as a non USAsian, I've needed to do that) I understand its normal practice to write the purpose as widely and vaguely as possible so that as times change and the focus of the NPO shifts, as it may, the articles do not need to be changed. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAki+z8MACgkQTE4/y7nJvav5YACg8QeBFqC9sRJ7/VdAmBtu2FLj ZqoAn1GrstmPm0ZI6lyEGODbOX/qsgVc =HZLa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

RE: Bylaws question - 4.9, purposes

Chrissy Fullam — 2008-09-03T17:55:47

Do you think perhaps you could be more detailed in that section (4.9) to include the purpose? I like the bit from the Articles better as it includes the 'in an open environment' section but that's personal preference. Kind regards, Christina Fullam Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations

Re: Bylaws question - 3.12, actions by members without a meeting: quorum and definition of written consent

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-03T17:17:12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2008.09.03 00:07, Robin H. Johnson wrote: The concept of quorum does not apply to Section 3.12. Action by Members Without a Meeting. The key words are at a meeting at which all members entitled to vote thereon were present and voted Thus a simple majority of all members is required for action by members without a metting. If its still Section 3.12, then sub para 1 states. "bears the date of signature by each member signing such consent" signing here means each members cryptographic signature, so an email would have to be passed round to produce a single document or each member would have to email the Foundation separately. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAki+xp8ACgkQTE4/y7nJvas4qQCglozAjLEOEg+717HC6j50ypTX HDsAoPgJzG+5kT19BhiZT8YDxJezuNQ1 =ajKP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Re: RE: [gentoo-council] Foundation by laws: new Article V

Roy Bamford — 2008-09-03T16:50:18

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard, I've seen fmccors reply, let me have a got too. On 2008.09.02 23:16, Richard Freeman wrote: It wasn't that simple - I'll add some history further down. There have been a number of non US citizen trustees over the years. I'm the only one at the moment. Three of the original 13 trustees were non-US citizens. There are some roles that are more difficult for a non US citizen to perform, like treasurer, which requires dealing with cheques. The two bodies were created at different times - I was not a developer at the time so some of this is hearsay ... The Gentoo Foundation Inc was created on 14th May 2004 (ref Articles of Incorporation) as a part of the process of Daniel Robbins (our founder) extracting himself from Gentoo. Daniel held the post of Chief Archietect and pretty much ran gentoo as a benevolent dictator. He also had a business orgainsation known as Gentoo Technologies Inc which owned Gentoos trademarks and IPR. As part of Daniels l

Re: This is what gentoo has become

Ned Ludd — 2008-09-03T16:27:57

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 18:04 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: If this is directly in response to me. Then you should be aware I had nothing to do with his moderation. So I'd suggest you slow down and read everything that has transpired on this list. He is not the be-all end all of gentoo or even remotely close to it. And if he wants to prove his worth to gentoo in a non abusive manner. Then the tree is the perfect place. But if for a second anybody thinks that somebody can run around and be abusive to others and violate our CoC at will. Then heck yeah. I'd be pleased with them getting off a list/or out of gentoo all together so distro matters can continue.

Re: This is what gentoo has become

Ioannis Aslanidis — 2008-09-03T16:04:54

Congratulations on removing yet another developer. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Ned Ludd public.gmane.org> wrote: