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    <title>Re: RIP Ed Foster</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12537</link>
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    <dc:creator>Greg Folkert</dc:creator>
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    <title>RIP Ed Foster</title>
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    <title>Re: Brett Glass speaks out against Net Neutrality</title>
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    <title>Brett Glass speaks out against Net Neutrality</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12534</link>
    <description>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902077.html


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    <dc:creator>Teh Entar-Nick</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-31T14:56:56</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org: Re:  Defective By Design]</title>
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&lt;snip&gt;


Oh, that quote is _so_ going into my next presentation!

greg k-h
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    <dc:creator>Greg KH</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-27T23:24:35</dc:date>
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    <title>One more thing on DRM...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12532</link>
    <description>From the political news files:
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/26/michael-savage-lawsuit-ag_n_115103.html

  "In her ruling Friday, U.S. District Judge Susan
  Illston said people who listen to a public broadcast
  are entitled to use excerpts for purposes of comment
  and criticism."

Of course, if the comment and criticism had used a
circumvented copy of a DRM-restricted work, no such
exception applies.

Anyone got an example of a straight-up _political
speaker_ who's using a DRM-restricted format, and
a comment on or criticism of that speaker? 

</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-27T21:49:36</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org: Re:  Defective By Design]</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12531</link>
    <description>(If you're against cruelty to veal calves, do you make
a reservation at a veal-serving restaurant, ask the
waiter if the veal was humanely raised, and walk out?)

If there's to be a protest, why not one against the
non-Apple portable music player manufacturers for
unforgiveable crap-assitude and product-wrecking
iFanboyism?   Yes, I bought the Samsung that plays
Oggs, and it sounds OK and plays all the right
formats, but the interface is hopelessly confusing.

Where is the non-DRM music organizer
application/device combination that will work with
Amazon or Magnatune anywhere close to as well as the
Apple iTMS/iTunes/iPod chain works?

Rhythmbox is pretty good, but major label music
ordering is still wishlist:
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480633

And device manufacturers seem more concerned with
copying the superficial aspects of the iPod (ooo!
white headphone cord!) than making a usable product.
Why not make something that's different, but good in
its own way?
  http://www.linuxworld.com/commu</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-27T21:39:51</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Defective By Design</title>
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    <description>

Ugh.

If they had any class, they'd set up an apple-haters blog which is so 
compelling that every hilarious post ends up at the top of Digg &amp; Reddit 
next to photos of Martian sunsets.


- James
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    <title>[rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org: Re:  Defective By Design]</title>
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    <description>----- Forwarded message from Richard M Stallman &lt;rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org&gt; -----

From: Richard M Stallman &lt;rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org&gt;
CC: linux-elitists&lt; at &gt;zgp.org
Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Defective By Design
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:14:51 -0400

    Is it just me, or is it the FSF that seems to have gone defective?

Maybe neither.  I think you and some others have misunderstood and
misjudged our protest.

    Their latest anti-iPhone campaign[1] crosses some lines I'm not too pleased
    with. They're urging people to setup a meatspace denial of service attack
    against the "Genius Bars" in Apple Stores world wide

That's not what we are doing.  We have asked people to go to Apple
stores and show Apple's staff their opposition to Apple's DRM.
Describing this with terms such as "denial of service" and
"disruption" is untrue.

Calling it an "attack" is an exaggeration.  When people go one by one
to a store and tell the staff what they think, that's not an attack.
When Apple implements DRM, when Apple deactivates unlocked iPhones</description>
    <dc:creator>Aaron Porter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-27T20:13:27</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Defective By Design</title>
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    <description>Quoting Aaron Porter (atporter&lt; at &gt;primate.net):


The FSF go through recurring cycles of either being spot-on in their
public actions or making you shake your head.  It probably depends on
volunteer staffing.

The initiative you cite appears to be that of Matt Lee, "Chief Webmaster
for the GNU Project and Campaigns Manager at the Free Software
Foundation".  

http://mat.tl/ee/
http://groups.fsf.org/index.php/User:Mattl
http://www.advogato.org/person/mattl/
http://identi.ca/mattl
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    <dc:creator>Rick Moen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-26T23:14:41</dc:date>
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    <description>
Is it just me, or is it the FSF that seems to have gone defective?
Their latest anti-iPhone campaign[1] crosses some lines I'm not too pleased
with. They're urging people to setup a meatspace denial of service attack
against the "Genius Bars" in Apple Stores world wide in an effort to
educate Apple about it's product is "restricting your freedoms".
They previously posted "5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G"[2], a brief
but quite valid list of reasons users might want to avoid the iPhone
(curiously omitting the lack of any support for non-iTunes activation,
use, etc). Their last reason for avoiding the device -- "iPhone is not the
only option." seems to negate the militant tactics they're adopting now.
I've been a longtime supporter of the FSF (up to but not including
prefixing Linux with GNU), contributing my own time and money as well as
pushing through software "purchases" by my employers. I'm not sure I want
to be associated with the group after this.
Sure the iPhone is sexy, but there has been sexy hardwa</description>
    <dc:creator>Aaron Porter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-26T20:31:54</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Applications and the infamous DNS vulnerability</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12526</link>
    <description>Quoting Don Marti (dmarti&lt; at &gt;zgp.org):


There are some benefits to doing so, but it does rather little to
prevent cache poisoning -- which can affect a variety of nameserver
hosts that do recursive-resolver service and then cache the results, 
even those that don't accept recursive queries from public networks.

So:  A recursive-resolver server that's on an IP different from your
"public" DNS is no less threatened.

Note that even the "stub resolver" built into Linux libc / glibc is
vulnerable to some deviltry on account of _its_ recursive queries
not originating in randomised source UDP ports but rather always coming
from port 53.  However, the results thereof don't get _cached_, so any 
poisoned information gets flushed right away.  (Running nscd would be
bad, in this context -- but then, it sucks, and if you use it at all
you should always disable its caching of DNS data on general principle.)

Absence of caching likewise mitigates the horrific vulnerability of
pretty nearly everyone's cheap SOHO router app</description>
    <dc:creator>Rick Moen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T21:37:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Installfest for Schools</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12525</link>
    <description>Hi Folks:

I'm very pleased to announce that Untangle &amp; ACCRC have teamed up with LinuxWorld (Aug 5-7) for our second Installfest for Schools.  The first ACCRC/Untangle Installfest for Schools in March refurbished 350 Ubuntu computers for schools[1].  This time we've gotten a large booth on the expo floor and will have workstations setup for volunteers to refurbish recycled computers with Ubuntu and GnewSense.  We particularly need help with the following:

1)Installing Ubuntu and/or gNewSense  
2)Hacking older hardware and identifying good/bad components

You can signup for a work station here:

http://www.untangle.com/installfest

Also, if you know of a school in need of computers that’s willing to try GNU/Linux please nominate them here:

http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_collect&amp;task=installfestNominate&amp;Itemid=1426

And if you have an older computer that you want to donate or recycle, please bring it to LinuxWorld.  ACCRC will have a collection booth setup and can provide tax deductable rece</description>
    <dc:creator>Andrew Fife</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T20:00:50</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Applications and the infamous DNS vulnerability</title>
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    <description>
Or send a flood of spam with rfc1918 addresses in the headers
that you actually happen to use internally.

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    <dc:creator>Matthew Galgoci</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T17:38:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Applications and the infamous DNS vulnerability</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12523</link>
    <description>On a properly set up home or office network, it should
be difficult to poison the nameserver completely
from the outside -- for a long time it's been best
practice to put your public DNS on a separate machine.

Of course an attacker can easily trick an application
on the inside into doing a bunch of DNS queries --
the simplest example is that a user could visit a
malicious web page with a bunch of images.

Should applications that handle untrusted data
be keeping track of the number of times they get
NXDOMAIN for subdomains of one domain -- some kind
of wrapper around getaddrinfo -- then refusing to
query again if there are so many that it looks like
an attack?  Maybe with a "I'm not looking up another
randomcrap.example.com domain for you" dialog, or
maybe just stop processing the offending web page or
whatever other data source is causing the queries?

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    <dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-24T16:40:04</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Obfuscated TCP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12522</link>
    <description>Very cool.

Thanks for posting this.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Don Marti &lt;dmarti&lt; at &gt;zgp.org&gt; wrote:



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    <dc:creator>Tony Godshall</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-19T00:04:15</dc:date>
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    <title>Obfuscated TCP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12521</link>
    <description>Anyone following the "Obfuscated TCP" kernel patch
set and userspace library?
  http://code.google.com/p/obstcp/
Fast opportunistic crypto at the TCP level.

Looks like a useful way to make it difficult for
ISPs to use services such as Phorm and NebuAd to
collect user tracking data and ad revenue -- so
webmasters should be all over it.  And, of course,
it's protection against forged RST attacks.

Doesn't work if the attacker is willing to spend
more and do an MITM attack, though.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T17:16:08</dc:date>
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    <title>Spam complying with CAN SPAM</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12520</link>
    <description>Looks like the Marketing types of the world are
getting emboldened by our pro-spam FTC...
  http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2008/06/ftc_says_yes_yo.html

I'm starting to see spam that looks like it traces
back to a semi-legit company.

Anyone else getting spam linking to disposable domain
names that copy the content from patchperfect dot
com -- with the company's actual contact info and an
apparently working unsubscribe link?

whois has officialtvwebsite822 dot com at the same
postal address as the original site:

6070 Mission Gorge Rd. Suite 1, San Diego, CA 92120.

Either this is a very good joe job, or it's another
attempt by DMA types to push the boundaries.

Looks like an opportunity for another Gevalia-style
lawsuit.  Of course, the infomercial impresarios
behind this grass seed company will start another
company selling something else, but there's probably
enough money to make it worthwhile for a small ISP
or mail host with a reasonably priced lawyer.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Marti</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-14T18:10:59</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: USB-Serial and pppd</title>
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    <dc:creator>Greg Folkert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-13T03:04:19</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: USB-Serial and pppd</title>
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    <description>
That's good, but you should update your .24 one to .25 to make sure.


You might want to just turn that off then :)


Ok, I can't understand what you are saying here, is it that you got
512K/second just like someone else using os-x did?  If so, what is the
problem?

Also note, I forgot to mention this the first time, but some people's
data plans cap the throughput to a specific level.  I proved this to
someone by using my card in their laptop with the exact same driver and
device type.  My data plan has no caps, his did.

So, you might want to check with your phone company :)


And this is related to throughput of a driver how?  Please...

Ok, please measure up and down throughput separately, as they are very
different.  If you can rebuild your kernel, here's some things you can
try to change these numbers.

In the file, drivers/usb/serial/sierra.c, make sure that the buffer
sizes and numbers all show:
#define N_IN_URB        4
#define N_OUT_URB       4
#define IN_BUFLEN       4096

If not, increase them</description>
    <dc:creator>Greg KH</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-12T23:32:47</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: USB-Serial and pppd</title>
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    <dc:creator>Greg Folkert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-12T19:45:25</dc:date>
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