gmane.linux.debian.user

Re: Problem updating debian 6

Chris Bannister — 2012-05-26T04:42:35

It seems to have repopulated the directory, despite the messages that it
failed to download the files. Ahh, see the date on the partial
directory? What's under there. Maybe delete those and try again?



You could use it for comparison purposes.

Also:
apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::http=true 2> http.log

might shed some light on whats happening.

You could try that on a good server and see what the differences are.

Re: Dying Iceweasel.

Scott Ferguson — 2012-05-26T02:56:45

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Kind regards

Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

Scott Ferguson — 2012-05-26T02:40:49

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All good (and I can't think of how it would've done more harm than waste
a few seconds).
I should have looked up the man before proposing a more involved process.

Thanks for alerting me to the much easier way.


Kind regards

Re: Configure sudo

Richard Hector — 2012-05-26T01:02:27

Careful with that:

zircon:/home/richard# a-g-i.sh nano-
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   nano
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,810 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

:-)

Richard

Less responsive input, 3-second freezes & blind-typing

John Magolske — 2012-05-26T00:07:50

Hello,

For a while now I've been experiencing a strange behavior where there
are frequent and regular "freezes" when typing or issuing commands
in the shell. All of a sudden I'll find myself "blind-typing" for 3
seconds or so before a backlog of characters burst onto the screen.

I seem to notice this a lot in Vim...maybe because that's what I'm
using most of the time. But this also happens for example when typing
a command into a shell and attempting to tab-complete a filename --
there will be a 3-second pause before the completion takes effect.
Trying another command immediately after, I see the tab-completion
is instant. Setting updatecount=0 in vim to avoid disk activity in
writing to a swap file made no difference.

One guess is that this may have to do with disk access, as when
experiencing this there's the telltale sound of the hard disk spinning
up during the pause. Not always -- at times the disk is already
spinning when I'm typing and then there's the annoying 3-second pause.
But never is there th

Re: new tab or new terminal

Jochen Spieker — 2012-05-25T23:53:25

BG:

Following the principle of running few processes as root, su-ing is the
way to go. That way, the terminal still runs as your primary user, you
have only one root shell.


There are none.

J.

OT: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives"You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"

Arnt Karlsen — 2012-05-25T23:48:15

On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
<jplie1$a15$11< at >dough.gmane.org>:


..er, why you carry onlike this? ;o)
Withdrawn, yer'onnor! ;oD


.."$subject"!="subject", and if you argue otherwise, 
you'll face a wee chicken-and-egg problem, one of us 
came here before the other one of us. ;o)


..we just disagree.  No big deal. ;o)

Re: Help identifying an old wireless card

Arnt Karlsen — 2012-05-25T23:36:05

On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:00:21 -0800, Greg wrote in message 
<201205250900.21839.gomadtroll< at >gci.net>:


..we don't know that yet.  OP, put your dmesg on pastebin and 
post the link here, if lsusb fails to list your device.

Re: Broken cups.

Brian — 2012-05-25T22:40:13


What Debian version are you using and is it up-to-date? Has this printer
ever worked for you and, if so, when did the problem start? Is using
hpijs and hplip a necessity for you? I can understand why your user is
in group lpadmin but not why he is group lp. Is there a reason for that?


Monitor /var/spool/cups before and after printing. Are there any changes
in its contents? Look at /var/log/cups/error_log. Anything you would
class as unusual there? Increase the verbosity of the log by putting
'LogLevel debug' in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.

Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

Jon Dowland — 2012-05-25T22:08:05

Well, yes - or resolve them one by one when you hit a host that has changed.
In this situation, ssh will tell you which lines are troublesome.


The point of the hashing is that if someone breaks into your computer and
steals your private key, your known_hosts file could give them a list of other
machines that are likely to accept your key. If the hosts are hashed, they
don't know the hosts.

Re: how to update Debian OS properly

Jon Dowland — 2012-05-25T22:05:06

Yes, sync is not backup (that is, an rsync by itself is not adequate coverage).
But neither is tar! A proper backup solution is something that covers the seven
points listed at <http://www.taobackup.com/>.  You can build a solution using
parts like tar, or rsync, or higher level tools like rdiff-backup, or bacula.

Re: OT Seach for Elaborate Address Book Program

J.A. de Vries — 2012-05-25T22:02:48

Hi Tom,

I use Thunderbird. The built-in addressbook amounts to not much, but
with the extension "More Functions for Addressbook" you get a whole load
more functionality. Next to the standard 4 custom fields you get 10
extra fields to use as you want and a whole set of additional e-mail
fields. It will also greatly improve support for vCards, which is at a
bare minimum without this extension.

Kaddressbook used to be good too, but with the transition to Akonadi
things have gone down the drain (at least as far as my usage scenario is
concerned).

Another option could be to use something like LibreOffice Base, Kexi, or
Glom to make it yourself. Those applications are somewhat like MS
Access, so you wouldn't have to go down the road of programming it
yourself from scratch.

On the other hand Lazarus (a Delphi-like GUI Builder on top of Free
Pascal) has a fully functional example of an addressbook, which you
could easily adapt to your own needs, if you would prefer to write it
yourself and are familiar with Pas

new tab or new terminal

BG — 2012-05-25T21:00:03

To monitor my system I usually open a terminal and run htop and then 
open another tab and run gkrellm. This is as a user without sudo 
privileges. I recently began using tcpspy and then tail syslog | grep 
tcpspy in yet another tab. However my user doesn't have sudo privileges 
so I have to su - to a user in the sudo group to do this.

Is it better from a security standpoint to su - in a tab as I have been 
doing or should I open another terminal for this user?

I am not overly paranoid and the programs used are irrelevant really and 
yes, I do realize I could get the same results as tcpspy without the 
privileged user using other commands such as ss or netstat. I am just 
curious what the implications of using mixed users with mixed privileges 
in a single terminal are if any.

Broken cups.

Ed Siefker — 2012-05-25T21:09:23

I am unable to print on my HP 1300n.   I have cups installed, along
with hpijs and hplip.
I will append an actual list of packages to this email.   My user is a
member of both
groups 'lp' and 'lpadmin'.   Dmesg identifies my printer as "usb 5-2",
and the device
entry looks like this:

crw-rw-r-T+ 1 root lp 189, 516 May 25 15:54 /dev/bus/usb/005/002

I have an HP2575 connected through the network.  I can print on this
printer perfectly.
My HP1300n is connected by USB.  I cannot print to this printer at all.

If I delete my 1300n from cups and physically restart the printer, I
get an entry
added automatically to my list.  Cups claims that the "make and model" is
"HP LaserJet 1300n pcl3, hpcups 3.12.2".

When I send a job to this printer, it claims to work.  It processes N pages
(where N is the number of pages in the print job) and returns to Idle
- "ready to print"
status.  This is a complete lie.  Nothing is printed and no error messages
are emitted.

If I delete this printer and physically restart the printe

Re: how to update Debian OS properly

Lisi — 2012-05-25T20:30:54

I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code name in 
my sources.list, not stable or testing.  I then change the code name when I 
want to get the more recent version.  So, Squeeze not stable, Muhammad.  you 
could get in quite a mess at the changeover point from Squeeze to Wheezy if 
you have stable in your sources.list, as several people have pointed out.

I can't comment on your Windows analogies as I don't use Windows.  I think 
that you need to expect that Linux will be different from whatever you used 
in Windows.  They are very different OSs.

FWIW, I do most of my admin from the CLI, including updating and upgrading.  
So yes, it can be done from the CLI.

Lisi

Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

Slavko — 2012-05-25T19:59:03

Hi,

Dňa Fri, 25 May 2012 15:37:12 -0400 Celejar <celejar< at >gmail.com> napísal:


:-(

then i see only one solution - delete/rename whole file and collect them
from start.

Please, what security is here? When I know the hostname (IP) i can
remove the host entry and then i can save new entry and i can show the key
for this host too. Only one i cannot - to know which hosts are in the
file...

Or I am not right and i misunderstand something?

regards

Re: Dual head Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3

Claudius Hubig — 2012-05-25T19:49:44

Hello David,

David Christensen <dpchrist< at >holgerdanske.com> wrote:

I think you already achieved that?


That’s two calls to add the corresponding modes and two calls to set
these modes for each of the monitors, in total four lines in an
autostart script in your Gnome session.


gnome-display-properties is mostly a front end to xrandr from what I
can tell, but it also allows you to add new modes (though you
obviously should make sure that your monitors support them).

I think CMOS settings mostly apply to the BIOS, GRUB and maybe boot,
but I have to admit I never really understood how the Linux kernel
decides where to show its virtual terminals.

Anyway, I fear I can’t really help you with CMOS and boot, and there
are certainly people who are more knowledgeable about xorg.conf on
this list. :)

Best regards,

Claudius

Re: OT Seach for Elaborate Address Book Program

Thomas H. George — 2012-05-25T18:45:26

I meant the application will not run. 

I did checkout dlume which has multiple fields for phone numbers, email
addresses and url's but much of my information would have to be dumped
in the notes field.

Tom

Re: Dual head Intel i7-2600S and DQ67SWB3

David Christensen — 2012-05-25T19:40:22

Thanks for the reply.  :-)


My goal is at least one monitor displaying during POST, GRUB, boot, and 
login, and then span mode 2 x 1600x1200 on the desktop.  The Nokia 445Xi 
can do 75 Hz and the 445XiPlus can do 87 Hz at that resolution, but I 
would settle for 75 Hz on both monitors.




STFW I've posts about xrandr, but I'd prefer to get this working via 
CMOS settings, motherboard/ monitor connections, xorg.conf, and 
gnome-display-properties.   I'll play with xrandr in any case.


Any other suggestions?


David

Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

Celejar — 2012-05-25T19:37:12

On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:46:53 +0200
Slavko <linux< at >slavino.sk> wrote:


Well, the whole point of the hash is to prevent anyone with access to
the file from learning the hosts / ip addresses, so I imagine that
figuring them out yourself is a non-trivial task. For any name /
address you think might be in there, just do the 'ssh-keygen -R' thing,
and that will remove it if it's indeed there.


Celejar

Re: OT Seach for Elaborate Address Book Program

keith — 2012-05-25T19:15:41

On Fri, 25 May 2012 11:39:08 -0400
"Thomas H. George" <lists< at >tomgeorge.info> wrote:

[...] 
Maybe just use sqlite3, it's not that hard.
(A commandline program)