gmane.emacs.eev.devel

Re: (find-estring "")

Xavier Maillard — 2013-02-07T22:03:59

Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
writes:


We will. I have tons of questions I'd like you to answer :D

[ ... ]

Have a nice carnaval.

/Xavier

Re: (find-estring "")

Eduardo Ochs — 2013-02-07T21:27:41


Hi all,

to be short: "we need to chat some day"...

I live with the impression that I've sort of promised explanations,
examples, features, answers, documentation, videos, etc, to several
people, but the mess that my life has become makes me forget what I
promised in bursts of inspiration...

I work in a university campus that looks like this,

  http://angg.twu.net/blergh.html

and I've been dedicating most of my time to real-world activism, and,
as a side-effect, also to writing things - which are unfortunately
mostly in Portuguese... I *believe* that videos like the ones that
I've been putting at

  http://angg.twu.net/#eev

*Note*: the only one I'm really proud of is the one about eepitch -
...can be quite efficient to show usage patterns - but I am still at
the stage where I feel that the result is crappy when I don't rehearse
a lot, and for these rehearsals it helps when I know what things are
clear for people - I mean: clear from the sandboxy docs at

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-intro

Re: (find-estring "")

Xavier Maillard — 2013-02-07T20:34:07

Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org>
writes:


I like this feature very much havng such a "Sand Box" system is just a
great thing.

/Xavier

Re: a video about eepitch

Xavier Maillard — 2013-01-06T22:59:52

Hi,


I did. Much more simpler. I love it.

Now, I need to integrate it with my DIY note taking system and notably
send a whole note into an activable and customized eepitch-script. But
that's another story.

I wish EEV was more rated...

Xavier

a video about eepitch

Eduardo Ochs — 2013-01-06T20:38:09

Hi list,

there's a new video - just about eepitch, this time -
available at:

  http://angg.twu.net/#eev
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/video4-eepitch.mp4
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj_zKC5BR64

Please upgrade to eev2! =)
  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
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a video about eev2

Eduardo Ochs — 2012-11-12T17:16:41

Hello list (and a few other people),

here's is an introductory video about (the new version of) eev:

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/README.html

The thing is: the "center" of eev has changed - completely.
The documentation is now all in the form of sandboxed tutorials;
there are no non-elisp files anymore; eepitch is now considered
basic, while M-x eev and channels are now considered advanced
features; eejump is now one of the first things that I recommend
people to learn; most of the source code has been rewritten;
there are now standard hyperlinks to audio and video files;
etc, etc.

Bad news to changelog lovers: as this is practically a full rewrite
I am not keeping a changelog for the new version (yet); and
bad news for Debian users: I have not debianized eev2 yet.

Several advanced features of eev have been changed and now
need to be invoked differently. I'll be glad to help if anyone has any
difficulties adapting to eev2 (the e-mails and chat logs will help
me into creating a porting guide and othe

(find-estring "")

Eduardo Ochs — 2012-05-09T12:14:45

Hello list,

I have been experimenting with another (new?) way of documenting
things: temporary buffers with tutorials, generated by calls like
(find-estring "<Put the tuorial here>"). See:

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eev-intro.el.html

I haven't been testing the tarball in

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current.tar.gz

much, so some bugs may have crept in - I have been working mostly on
the Debian packages, that are at:

  http://angg.twu.net/debian/
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/README.html ,

especially on the one - "eev-puro" - that has mosts of its docs in
Portuguese =(... I plan to create a version in English of that package
soon, though. As a curiosity, here's a screenshot of Emacs's startup
screen when invoked through the script "emacs-puro" or through its
icon in the desktop menus:

  http://angg.twu.net/IMAGES/emacs-puro.png

Cheers,
  Eduardo Ochs
  eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org
  http://angg.twu.net/

Re: Debian package: first real announcement

Xavier Maillard — 2012-04-08T21:52:22

Hey Eduardo,

On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 08:54:25 -0300, Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


No problem. I am also trying to catch up with things I should have done
in ... 2009 !! ;) (oddmuse, color-theme, ipa, ...) No update, no
release, no anser to bug reports. I just did nothing but junk.
 
[ ... ]


Ok.

[ ... ]


Understand. While at it, why is there a project on savannah and nothing
in it ? Is it a dead project to host it there ?

/Xavier

Re: Debian package: first real announcement

Eduardo Ochs — 2012-04-06T11:54:25

Hi Xavier,


I remember that as being my fault!... You sent this e-mail to the
mailing list,

  http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/eev/2010-04/msg00000.html

and as I felt that I only had a very incomplete answer I sent you an
e-mail in private and promised a fuller, public answer soon - which I
never finished, because it depended on fixing some things that looked
trivial - but the fix became eev-template.el, which took me ages to
write...


Sorry, good questions! Let me be clearer about the plan. The other
"ways" besides eepitch will not be deprecated, they will just become
secondary - eepitch will be explained before the other ways in most
docs, and the scripts to invoke eev-rctool, to set up eechannel, and
to test if they work will be rewritten to become eepitch-based.


Exactly. 8-)


No, but I would like to rearrange the definitions in files to isolate
the parts that depend on eev-rctool from the other parts. This is a
medium-term goal, though.

  Cheers! =)
    Eduardo

Debian package: first real announcement

Eduardo Ochs — 2012-04-06T05:39:11

Hello list, after a long time...

I just updated the Debian package for eev - see:

  http://angg.twu.net/debian/README.html
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/

Its dependencies have been reduced almost to a minimum - just emacs
and xterm - and now the recommended way to interact with external
programs with CLIs is by using eepitch (which has been rewritten):

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eepitch.el.html
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eepitch.readme.html

Note that the "eepitch way" does not require any setup at all.

Remember that `M-x eev', `M-x eelatex', and friends did require
"prepared shells" and a directory for temporary scripts, and eechannel
required Expect, xterm, and several subtle details... The right thing
to do would be to have eepitch-based scripts to guide the user through
the installation and testing of all that, but that will have to be
left to the future.

Some functions that I considered too ugly and messy have been
rewritten, and the files with their new definitions,

  http://angg.tw

Re: Debian package - preliminary announcement

Xavier Maillard — 2010-04-18T20:36:27

Hi Eduardo,

long time, no post here.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:30:35 -0200, Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

I have downloaded your package and tried to install it here but
it failed since it depends on emacs22 exclusively. Do you plan on
updating it sooner or later ?

More generally, how is eev going lately ? I am still using it but
I did not notice any news here about it.

Cheers

Xavier

Debian package - preliminary announcement

Eduardo Ochs — 2009-11-04T16:30:35

Hello Xavier and List,

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Xavier Maillard <xma-mXXj517/zsQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

sorry for not announcing this before, but I haven't tested it enough
yet, and it is not in the tarball, not integrated with the Makefile
targets, not documented, etc, etc, but anyway...

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/debian/
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/

I gave a workshop using it last week, and there are a handful of
changes that I want to make in the Debian package...

  More soon, cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    eduardoochs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org
    http://angg.twu.net/  <-- big mess


P.S.: one of my main problems with updating the eev package is that
htmlize.el is not working well with new Emacsen... more later...

Fedoara package ?

Xavier Maillard — 2009-11-03T22:36:42

Hi,

I am playing with Fedora and I am looking for a decent fedora package
for eev. Are you aware of something like that ?

Regards,

Xavier