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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120609</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I just meant it would be nice to automatically test the whole of ruby.rb 
with both ruby-use-smie on and off. With otherwise default settings.


Ah, okay. If you think testing the non-important engine is not 
important, I'm not going to argue.


So, you prefer the multi-file approach over delineating the one file? I 
think they're more or less equivalent, only you're forced to have more 
files open when debugging.

By "cases", I mean just different situations here, not different 
indentation settings. Like currently, we have a bunch of separate 
`ruby-should-indent-buffer' automated tests, ported from the Ruby 
repository.

If I were to make a blunder in the code that breaks, say, all of them, 
seeing separate diffs for each case should be easier to comprehend than 
the big summary diff for one big file. Naming tests helps, too.

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    <dc:creator>Dmitry Gutov</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: *lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
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Yes.


No, there is only one correct indentation and both engines should find it.
Also only one engine is important at any given time (if/when the SMIE
code becomes good enough, it will make the other one obsolete).


I don't see any problem with that.


FWIW, the need for such things will largely depend on how configurable
the indentation is.  For cc-mode's hellish configurability there's
probably a need for something serious, but for most modes I didn't find
much need for such details.  In many other cases you can get away with
just setting the indentation vars to "unusual values" in the file-local
vars so that it's obvious enough whether that value is obeyed.


        Stefan

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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
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Can't disagree with that.


Sounds interesting. That would take some work to implement, I suppose.


Having ruby.rb indented according to the default settings and test any 
alternative settings via ERT sounds fine, except we now have two 
indentation engines, after all, and ideally we'd like to test all 
indentation cases in both of them, automatically.

How about having one big test in ruby-mode-tests.el that would load 
test/indent/ruby.rb and do the reindent-and-compare thing that is 
currently performed via make?

For bonus points, we could delineate test.rb with comments in some 
special way, so that we can have multiple tests "coexist" in it (by 
being able to refer and test just one part).

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Dmitry Gutov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-22T23:25:58</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: *lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120606</link>
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True.  Tho most bug reports about regexp literals do include such
unpaired quotes or parens (since that's the case where the lack of
special treatment really hurts), so I'd expect most "test cases" in the
test/indent directory to include such entries.


Probably.  Tho you could potentially change the test so it first
un-htmlizes the file, then runs font-lock, then htmlfontify, in which
case the file stored in test/indent would be the html version.

I guess that sounds more like enriched-mode than htmlfontify-buffer.


Yes.


We could, but then we'd lose the easy way to test&amp;amp;debug interactively by
simply visiting the file.  ERT isn't much worse in that case (and the
two aren't mutually exclusive: use test/indent the general indentation
rules, and use ERT rules to check how indentation obeys the various
indentation variables).


        Stefan

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    <title>/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112672: * src/casetab.c (init_casetab_once): Fix last change.</title>
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revno: 112672
fixes bug: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14424
author: Barry OReilly &amp;lt;gundaetiapo&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;
committer: Stefan Monnier &amp;lt;monnier&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;iro.umontreal.ca&amp;gt;
branch nick: trunk
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modified:
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    <title>/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112673: lisp/gnus/gnus-spec.el (gnus-parse-complex-format): Try to maximize compatibility</title>
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revno: 112673
author: Adam Sjøgren &amp;lt;asjo&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;koldfront.dk&amp;gt;
committer: Katsumi Yamaoka &amp;lt;yamaoka&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;jpl.org&amp;gt;
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120603</link>
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That's largely true, with the exception that some syntax-propertization 
is mostly performed for the sake of appearance. An unpropertized regexp 
literal without unpaired parens or quotes inside is unlikely to fail the 
test.


So, there would be a reference html file everyone would have to update 
after making a change in indent/ruby.rb?


I see, that's better.


I suppose we could set the variables via file-local vars mechanism, but 
that'll require us to have multiple files, one per combination of variables.

Or introduce some new kind of preprocessing, say, treat the same kind of 
comment in the middle of the file as an indication to stop, change the 
values, and indent the part of the file below with new values applied.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Dmitry Gutov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-22T22:10:26</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: *lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120602</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
No, indeed.  It does mostly work to test the syntax-ppss behavior, tho,
because a bug in it will typically cause bugs in indentation as well.
IOW it does largely test syntax-table and syntax-propertize, but it
doesn't test the font-lock-keywords part.

We could potentially test it by calling htmlfontify-buffer.


No, I just do something like

     make ruby.rb.test EMACS="emacs -Q --eval '(setq ruby-use-smie t)'"


Indeed, that's a widespread limitation with the current system.


        Stefan

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    <dc:creator>Stefan Monnier</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120601</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Speaking of SMIE and indentation, though, don't you find it inconvenient 
that to run the tests with it enabled, you have to put (setq 
ruby-use-smie t) in your init file, and then maybe remove it later and 
rerun the tests, to see that some changes did't break anything in the 
default algorithm?

M-: (setq ruby-use-smie t) is easier.

ruby-mode also has customization variables that change indentation 
behavior (at least one, for now, and we should add more). How do you 
propose to test that?

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Dmitry Gutov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-22T19:15:49</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120600</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Good point, though I think I still prefer the reliability of automated 
testing over that convenience.


Huh, I didn't know that. I don't think there can be a way to do the same 
for syntax highlighting, though.

Should I move all indentation tests to ruby.rb, and everything else to 
ruby-mode-tests.el?

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Dmitry Gutov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-22T19:07:37</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112522: *lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el: First cut at SMIE support.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.diffs/120599</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
I find it inconvenient, actually, because when the test fails, it's
a handy to be able to have a ruby-mode buffer where I can try out sexp
movement and indentation functions "in the usual way", together with
Edebug if needed.


Indentation checking is automated, via "(cd test/indent; make ruby.rb.test)"
It's not for syntax-highlighting, sadly.


Ruby's SMIE indentation is very much "work in progress", indeed.


        Stefan

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    <dc:creator>Stefan Monnier</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-22T18:55:42</dc:date>
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    <title>/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112671: * progmodes/octave.el (inferior-octave-startup): Fix bug#14433.</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;------------------------------------------------------------
revno: 112671
fixes bug: http://debbugs.gnu.org/14433
committer: Leo Liu &amp;lt;sdl.web&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;
branch nick: trunk
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revno: 112669
committer: Michael Albinus &amp;lt;michael.albinus&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmx.de&amp;gt;
branch nick: trunk
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revno: 112668
author: Daiki Ueno &amp;lt;ueno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnu.org&amp;gt;
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revno: 112667
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  * emacs-lisp/bytecomp.el (byte-compile-file-form-autoload):
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revno: 112666
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revno: 112665
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revno: 112664
committer: Glenn Morris &amp;lt;rgm&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnu.org&amp;gt;
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revno: 112663
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