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Re: Help with dates in authority record

Harden, Jean — 2008-12-03T21:53:26

Birth date is 1761 or 1762. Death date is 1835. I agree that this isn't the easiest format to understand, but it's what we have. I vaguely recall that it is based on how you would *say* the birth date (or how whatever group decided on the format would have said it, whenever that was). Jean Harden, Music Catalog Librarian Libraries University of North Texas 1155 Union Circle #305190 Denton, TX 76203-5017 (940) 565-2860 jean.harden-gkxvx00wFtQ< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: 007 |d for e-books

Scott & Megan — 2008-12-03T21:36:12

Hi all, Linda wrote: c, for multicolored, or maybe m, for mixed, depending on how much or how little of the text is multicolored. b, for black and white. For me, the test is how the work would look printed out. Color backgrounds are going to vanish on a color printer, but colored letters will remain. Sincerely Scott Casper Govt. Docs. Librarian Poplar Creek Public Library 1405 S. Park Ave. Streamwood, IL. 60107 (630) 837-6800 (630) 837-6823 (Fax) g-doc-KCnCJQoyB+uA37FJ/2RwEZH15Tjg6u9o< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: MP with OLC Card Technology

Mark Sandford — 2008-12-03T20:54:05

It looks like OLC is McGraw-Hill's online supplement brand, "Online Learning Center". I assume the card contains some kind of access code used that allows the creation of a single-user account, since they seem to be found with textbooks. Mark Sandford Special Formats Cataloger William Paterson University (973)270-2437 sandfordm1-YRVdd0mQQVWHXe+LvDLADg< at >public.gmane.org On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Dr. Robert Ellett public.gmane.org> wrote: *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Help with dates in authority record

Glasson, Patricia A — 2008-12-03T20:49:28

That Mr Marbury may have been born in either 1761 or 1762, but he died in 1835. Patty Glasson Serials Cataloging Specialist Purdue University 765-494-2811 -----Original Message----- From: AUTOCAT [mailto:AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hartnett Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:39 PM To: AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org Subject: [ACAT] Help with dates in authority record While cataloging a book on Marbury v. Madison today, I came across the following authority heading that perplexed me: Marbury, William, $d 1761 or 2-1835 Can anyone tell me what the "or 2-1835" might signify in this authority record (ARN 2529856)? Thank you! Laura Hartnett Northeastern University Law Library l.hartnett-JmejyYbYXtk< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat

Re: Help with dates in authority record

Ronald, John — 2008-12-03T20:49:12

Born in either 1761 or 2. Died 1835. John J. Ronald, MA, MLS Librarian I - Cataloger TWU Libraries P.O. Box 425528 Denton, TX 76204 tel. 940-898-3729 fax. 940-898-3809 -----Original Message----- From: AUTOCAT [mailto:AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hartnett Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:39 PM To: AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd99WKUUWUgXAA< at >public.gmane.org Subject: [ACAT] Help with dates in authority record While cataloging a book on Marbury v. Madison today, I came across the following authority heading that perplexed me: Marbury, William, $d 1761 or 2-1835 Can anyone tell me what the "or 2-1835" might signify in this authority record (ARN 2529856)? Thank you! Laura Hartnett Northeastern University Law Library l.hartnett-JmejyYbYXtk< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/

Help with dates in authority record

Laura Hartnett — 2008-12-03T20:39:17

While cataloging a book on Marbury v. Madison today, I came across the following authority heading that perplexed me: Marbury, William, $d 1761 or 2-1835 Can anyone tell me what the "or 2-1835" might signify in this authority record (ARN 2529856)? Thank you! Laura Hartnett Northeastern University Law Library l.hartnett-JmejyYbYXtk< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: 007 |d for e-books

J. McRee Elrod — 2008-12-03T19:10:51

Mark helpfully said: Sorry, I don't speak OCLC. It's very helpful to this curmudgeon if people would use AACR2/MARC21/ISBNs and titles proper in their posts as opposed to OCLC speak and OCLC record numbers. Thanks, Mac __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (mac-VCPFylJv6eD3fQ9qLvQP4Q< at >public.gmane.org) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: 007 |d for e-books

Mark Ehlert — 2008-12-03T17:58:12

OCLC's Connexion divides the 007 field into subfields rather than employing a mnemonic display as found with other cataloging applications. One such example from OCLC's website:

Re: 007 |d for e-books

J. McRee Elrod — 2008-12-03T17:55:18

Linda asked: Do you mean 007/03? There is no 007/d. I would code "c" for "more than one color". I wonder how many ILS's actually make *use* of 007, i.e., apply it in some way apposed to just conding it? __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (mac-VCPFylJv6eD3fQ9qLvQP4Q< at >public.gmane.org) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

007 |d for e-books

linda — 2008-12-03T17:30:21

How would you code 007 |d for the following situations: 1. E-book is a PDF file that has no illustrations, but some of the text is in a color other than black. 2. E-book is a PDF file that has no illustrations, but some of the text has a colored background behind it. Thanks for your help. Linda Kamoji Indiana University Libraries lkamoji-GZvvpLG7cYSVc3sceRu5cw< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Re: Vendor records

J. McRee Elrod — 2008-12-03T15:58:41

Helen quoted an earlier post: As my Granny said of purchasing shoes, you get what you pay for. For well over half our customers the records they get from us are of higher quality than locally produced records in their catalogues, given the level of cataloguing skills of current library school graduates, and non catalogues being forced into doing cataloguing. We stopped doing shelf ready books years ago (because of international shipping difficulties), but I would compare our records, and those from Cassidy Cataloguing, or Quality Books, with anyone's. Marcive does a thriving business cleaning up local messes. The proposition that locally done records are always better does not hold up. Local libraries vary as much as vendors in the quality of the records they produce. If a library is not willing to pay for a well trained local catalogue, or high quality vendor records, they are going to have poor records. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (mac-VCPFylJv6eD3fQ9qLvQP4Q< at >public.gmane.org) {__

Re: MP with OLC Card Technology

Scott Piepenburg — 2008-12-03T16:18:51

Oh, and an "OLC" is an online content card. They are often inserted into a text to provide access to online content, such as tests, WAV files, PDF files, etc. Scott Piepenburg Systems Librarian Library Media Services Dallas ISD 2525 S. Ervay Dallas, TX 75215 972.925.4829 (office) 972.925.4833 (fax) "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own!" --No. 6 Hello AUTOCAT Collective Wisdom, I have been asked to investigate the technology used with manifestations including "MP with OLC card" such as in the following advertisement: http://www.amazon.com/International-Management-Culture-Strategy-Behavior/dp/0073135852/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228320116&sr=8-1 I have also seen titles listed "with bound-in OLC card". Does anyone know about this technology? I have Googled, Yahooed, and Wikipediaed without success. Thanks in advance, Robert

Daily Typo - December 3, 2008 - Heath (for Health)

Carol Reid — 2008-12-03T16:11:20

Typo of the Day for Librarians Heath (for Health) Chocolate contains a lot of antioxidants, flavonoids, and other healthful components, and the Heath bar was initially sold as virtual health food, with one early ad declaring: "Eat Heath for health!" The wrapper design remains basically unchanged from the 1928 original and may be indulging in a bit of subliminal advertising to boot. According to Wikipedia, it has "the name 'Heath' printed in a distinctive fashion: two very large H's bookending eat." Depending on how you formulate your search, results will vary, but this is definitely a typo of high probability. The problem is that Heath is also a relatively common surname, in addition to being an actual word that means moor or shrub, i.e. "heather." If you're getting too many hits on Heath + Health, try to limit your search in such a way as to exclude Heath in the personal name field. (Searched that way, I got 191 results; without the exclusion, 377.) (Heath bar, from Wikimedia Commons.) Carol Reid Extr

MP with OLC Card Technology

Dr. Robert Ellett — 2008-12-03T16:07:40

Hello AUTOCAT Collective Wisdom, I have been asked to investigate the technology used with manifestations including "MP with OLC card" such as in the following advertisement: http://www.amazon.com/International-Management-Culture-Strategy-Behavior/dp/0073135852/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228320116&sr=8-1 I have also seen titles listed "with bound-in OLC card". Does anyone know about this technology? I have Googled, Yahooed, and Wikipediaed without success. Thanks in advance, Robert

Re: New OCLC records policy - is there "for dummies" version?

Sanchez, Elaine R — 2008-12-03T16:03:34

Hi. The concepts and legal status of policy are wrong, and both the policy and the FAQ should be scrapped and rewritten by OCLC and members as a voluntary guideline, not a legal document. I, too, can't figure out all the future ramifications with it. I can't figure out how this new legal policy, as OCLC staff wrote it, can be fixed -- it is just too hard to understand, and to see all its future effects. So, that's why I wrote the petition which states that OCLC should scrap both the new policy and the FAQ, and start entirely over with OCLC members and others to write a guideline. If you don't understand these documents, which seems to be true, you are like me, and probably many others. This is why they should be scrapped, and rewritten as something we CAN understand and feel truly best benefits our institutions and our records, in the present and the future. The petition is at: http://www.petitiononline.com/oclc/petition.html Thanks, Elaine Sanchez Texas State University-San Marcos (my opinions only) D

Fwd: British or English?

Rich Aldred — 2008-12-03T15:50:14

Dear CW, Is there an inconsistency between: America |x Discovery and exploration |x English, sh2008114174 and America |x Discovery and exploration |x Dutch, [British, French, etc.], sh 85004242? Thanks, Rich Aldred Catalog Librarian Haverford College http://www.haverford.edu/library/ Haverford, PA 19041 Voice: 610-896-1273 Email: raldred-Z3Yaf4M1lXBVdeU8dOWy+g< at >public.gmane.org Fax: 610-896-1102 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright ***********************************************************************

Peter Ward authority deletions

Fogler, Patricia A Civ USAF AETC AUL/LTSC — 2008-12-03T15:50:29

I have recently and suddenly taken over processing the Peter Ward authority files for our library and find myself with some questions. I am hoping that someone who does this routinely at their library would be willing to answer a few questions for me. Actually right now I have just one main question, but every so often I seem to find something else that stumps me. Yesterday I began working through a few weeks of the deletions report. I understand those records that clearly say they are to be deleted because they were distributed inadvertently or that they are being replaced by name headings and such. But I'm confused by some other records. In front of me I have SUBJECT headings for CEA genes and the Carrot weevil that appear to match both OCLC and headings already in our database. I can't tell precisely what I'm supposed to do with these. If anyone can tell me what to look for when processing this type of authority record I would appreciate it. Also -- if anyone has written out a set of steps

Re: New OCLC records policy - is there "for dummies" version?

Daniel CannCasciato — 2008-12-03T15:33:41

I agree with Mac's view on this, except I'm not sure about the "required" aspect of including a field to identify records obtained via OCLC. I think it's optional. To me, this is where the workload issue (Tim Spalding commented on this, I think it was) of having to include data in the record for no good reason. Making it optional (for now of course) relieved some of the dislike of the policy. Why have that indetifier? For branding pusposes, I'd guess. As if OCLC should be worried that folks will forget it exists in the bibliographic world. (Beyond the bib world, who gives a ...?) The other issue is that of intellectual property - - perhaps not rights or ownership, but respect and acknowledgment. OCLC doesn't create the records, for the most part, that are in WorldCat. We all do to varying extents. There's something galling about this branding of OCLC into the actual bib record data that we create. I hven't re-read the policy for a couple of weeks. I found it troubling, as I usually do, when some

Are you interest in FOLKSONOMY

Lisa Kong — 2008-12-03T14:11:24

Dear colleagues: Are you interested in the concept of FOLKSONOMY? What role do you think FOLKSONOMY will play in the library science domain? Do you want to know more about it? Have you applied FOLKSONOMY concepts in the library and would like to share your experience with other colleagues? ... If you are interested in these and more related topics , please contact me. Thank you. Look forward to hearing from you. Lisa Zhao Assistant Catalog Librarian Catalog Dept. Daley Library (m/c 234) Box 8198 Chicago IL 60680-8198 Tel. 312-413-5059 Email: chzh-KQhtac8ZjM8< at >public.gmane.org or zhzhls100-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright

Survey on technology skills in libraries

Burke, John J. — 2008-12-03T14:28:58

Please pardon repeated posts. For a book that I am writing on technologies used in libraries, I am hoping to assemble a list of the most common technologies and/or technology skills used on a regular basis by librarians and library staff members. I ask you to help me in this effort by taking a brief web survey on the technologies and technology skills you use in your everyday work. I am very interested in hearing from librarians and library staff members from various types and sizes of libraries. The survey is available at https://survey.muohio.edu/Checkbox/libtech.survey It should take about five minutes to complete. Survey respondents will have the opportunity to receive a summary of the survey results. All replies to the survey are anonymous. Please complete the survey before December 16, 2008. Thank you very much for your participation! John John J. Burke, MSLS Phone: (513) 727-3293 Director, Gardner-Harvey Library Fax: (513) 727-3434 Miami University

Re: Final Call:l Ulrich's Serials Award

Deeken, Joanne — 2008-12-03T12:50:14

The deadline has just been extended to Dec. 10. You've still got a few days to nominate someone! JoAnne Deeken ________________________________ From: Deeken, Joanne Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:09 AM To: 'AUTOCAT-0lvw86wZMd8f6iAq40b6vDevRRvlBcP1< at >public.gmane.org'; 'autoacq-l-JX7+OpRa80TBnOJFYrmQmg< at >public.gmane.org'; 'acqnet-l-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy< at >public.gmane.org' Subject: Final Call:l Ulrich's Serials Award December 1 is the final deadline. I know there are many great serials librarians out there. Come on, nominate one! JoAnne Deeken *Call for Nominations - Ulrich's Serials Librarianship Award* Presented by the ALCTS Continuing Resources Section, the Ulrich's Serials Librarianship Award consists of a citation and $1,500, generously donated by ProQuest. The deadline for nominations is December 1, 2008. The award is presented to an individual who has made distinguished and ongoing contributions to serials librarianship, including but not limited to: - Demonstrated