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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/558">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Default font in Serna 4 (RC 2)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/558</link>
    <description>Yours is an interesting question, Bob. The Serna styles are based on the
original FO transforms created for the DITA Open Toolkit. At the time I
created those OT transforms, to avoid having to support font embedding for
PDF outputs, I decided to constrain font usage to those available in the
PDF Standard font set. Those fonts, as describe in this FAQ
(http://www.pdf-tools.com/asp/faq.asp?s=&amp;q=58) are:
Times?Roman, Times?Bold, Times?Italic, Times?BoldItalic, Helvetica,
Helvetica?Bold, Helvetica?Oblique, Helvetica?BoldOblique, Courier, Courier
?Bold, Courier?Oblique, Courier?BoldOblique, Symbol, ZapfDingbats
Good old Arial is outside the fold, but could be accommodated through an
override that redefines the setup parms. Since the Serna display
stylesheets are not used for publication, this seems like it could be made
into a configuration option, in fact, without causing the kind of problems
that led to the original decision about what fonts to include by default.

Regards,
--
Don Day
Chair, OASIS DITA Technica</description>
    <dc:creator>Don Day</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-20T20:46:40</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/557">
    <title>[Serna]  Default font in Serna 4 (RC 2)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/557</link>
    <description>Folks;

We've run across an interesting problem at my company. For Windows
installations, Serna style sheets for the WYSIWYG window use Helvetica as the
default font. Of course, Helvetica is not a standard font on Windows systems, so
somewhere in the system (haven't figured out where) a substitution is carried
out (probably to Arial).

That's all fine and good if a user doesn't have a Helvetica font package
installed. But in our case, many users have an old, non-unicode, Helvetica
package installed. Because of this, characters such as Greek symbols aren't
displayed properly, nor do all of the glyphs show up in the Insert Symbol...
dialog box.

Would anyone have a huge problem if Syntext were to update the default Serna
style sheets to specify Arial as the default font (at least for Windows
installs)? On all recent versions of Windows, an OpenType (unicode) Arial
package is included in the base installation.

Regards,
Bob


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    <dc:creator>Bob Beims</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-20T16:39:27</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/556">
    <title>[Serna] Want to upgrade from serna2 to serna4</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/556</link>
    <description>But the site wants me to input serial number and password. Well, I 
assume the serial number is the serial number in serna.lic but password? 
I bought serna2 two and a half years ago so I have forgotten the 
password. How do I retrieve/recover it?

Regards,
Johan

</description>
    <dc:creator>Johan Groth</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-10T22:06:44</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/555">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Bug - Serna 4.1b on Mac OS X</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/555</link>
    <description>
Thank you Bob for your bug report. I've added it in our bug-tracking 
system.

Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Bob Beims wrote:


</description>
    <dc:creator>cherdn-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-04T14:21:32</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/554">
    <title>[Serna]  Bug - Serna 4.1b on Mac OS X</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/554</link>
    <description>I just installed 4.1b under Mac OS X 10.5.4 on an Intel-based MacBook, and
encountered one serious problem:  I can't resize the main window by
click-dragging the lower left corner. There's no "grab handle" (although the
window can be maximized with the green button in the upper right).

Bob


</description>
    <dc:creator>Bob Beims</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-03T13:32:37</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/552">
    <title>Re: [Serna] Configure Serna to use XEP processor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/552</link>
    <description>Hello,


Which stand-alone tool do you use to generate PDF2 output?


It seems to be a problem with your modified 'dita2pdf_xep.bat' script. 
Please send it to us. We'll try to sort out the problem.

Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.




</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-14T11:07:08</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/551">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/551</link>
    <description>Hello,


You may work with Serna-4 using your purchased license (serial is 
874803805). It hasn't been expired yet.


Unfortunately I didn't manage to reproduce the issue again.
We are working Serna-4 out hard now and we are planing to issue 
Serna-4.1b soon. As soon as it releases, can you please retest this crash.


We use such mechanism for Serna-3.X. But this functionality hasn't 
existed for Serna-4 yet. We are working it out.
That's way I asked you about step-by-step description of reproducing the 
crash.


Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.




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    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-14T11:06:48</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/550">
    <title>[Serna] Re: Thank You for Evaluating Syntext Serna, Do You Need Any Guidance?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/550</link>
    <description>Hello Michel,


Your use-case is connected not with Serna but with DITA OT, which Serna 
uses for publishing to PDF or HTML.
You may find all the documentation about it here:
http://dita-ot.sourceforge.net/

If you want to change header and footer of the generated pdf file, you
have to change DITA OT's xsl files.

I've prepared a small sample for you - how to work with xsl files:

         &lt;!-- header --&gt;
         &lt;fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-before" font-size="9pt" 
font-family="Helvetica"&gt;
           &lt;fo:block linefeed-treatment="ignore" text-align-last="justify"&gt;
             &lt;fo:inline text-align="start"&gt;

&lt;!-- here's some text which appear in header--&gt;

               &lt;xsl:text&gt;New header content&lt;/xsl:text&gt;

             &lt;/fo:inline&gt;
           &lt;/fo:block&gt;
         &lt;/fo:static-content&gt;

I've attached sample xsl file.
How to apply it:

1. download attached 'topic2foImpl.xsl'
2. replace existing file here:
"c:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\xsl\xslfo\"
3. run Serna
4. </description>
    <dc:creator>cherdn-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-12T16:09:26</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>[Serna]  PDF Generation Help</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/549</link>
    <description>Hi,

I'm new to DITA and serna. I've downloaded a trial version and created a small 
dita test document from which I wanted to generate a pdf. All of this worked 
wonderfully, however I want to add my own header and footer to the generated 
pdf and cannot find out how to achieve this. I've looked in many forums, faqs 
and tutorials, but without avail. Maybe someone on this list can give me hint, 
how I can achieve this. Thanks!


</description>
    <dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-06T07:35:25</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/548">
    <title>[Serna] Recall: [Serna]  Configure Serna to use XEP processor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/548</link>
    <description>Beims Bob would like to recall the message, "[Serna]  Configure Serna to use XEP processor".
</description>
    <dc:creator>Beims Bob</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-23T17:09:47</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/547">
    <title>RE: [Serna]  Configure Serna to use XEP processor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/547</link>
    <description>Sonu;

I'd suggest posting the question to dita-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, as
there's a lot more activity there than on the OT mail list. You'll need
to join the group first: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/
(or dita-users-subscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org).

Regards,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Nadezhda Sidorova [mailto:sidnv-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:58 AM
To: Sonu Mangla
Cc: serna-users-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Serna] Configure Serna to use XEP processor

Hello,
(also 
FO 

Your question is related to DITA-OT, not Serna.

I suggest you to consult a DITA-OT community at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dita-ot/


Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.

To unsubscribe send empty e-mail to: serna-users-unsubscribe-YYLLxrGCLz9BDgjK7y7TUQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org


</description>
    <dc:creator>Beims Bob</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-23T16:39:06</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/546">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Configure Serna to use XEP processor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/546</link>
    <description>Hello,
Your question is related to DITA-OT, not Serna.

I suggest you to consult a DITA-OT community at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dita-ot/


Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-23T15:57:34</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/545</link>
    <description>Hello,


Sorry for the delay in answering your letter.

I tried to reproduce the problem with crash but I was failed.

I did the following:
-create two DITA 1.1 Concept documents
-drap and drop some documents from external file browser to Serna
-edit some document (type text, insert elements including &lt;xref&gt;)
-save documents.

Can you please provide me with some more details about this crash?

Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.




</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-23T09:04:15</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/544">
    <title>[Serna] How to configure Serna to use XEP instead of FOP?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/544</link>
    <description>Hi,

I have syntext serna 3.8 installed on my system. I am trying to use XEP to
publish PDF but unable to do so. Can anyone help me?

Steps that I have performed so far are:

1)       Installed Serna 3.8

2)       Installed the Idiom fo plug-in into the C:\Program
Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo folder.

3)       Installed the XEP into C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\xep folder

4)       Installed the saxon.jar in C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\xep\lib folder.

5)       Installed the ICU4j.jar in C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\ folder.

6)       Added saxon.jar to the classpath in the startcmd.bat file

7)       Made a copy of the dita2pdf.bat and did modifications as per FO
readme instructions.

8)       Run the "ant -f integrator.xml"  from the C:\Program
Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\ folder. Result: Build
successful.


I checked the generated </description>
    <dc:creator>Sonu Mangla</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T11:19:38</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/543">
    <title>[Serna]  Configure Serna to use XEP processor</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/543</link>
    <description>Hi,

I have syntext serna 3.8 installed on my system. I am trying to use XEP to 
publish PDF but unable to do so. Can anyone help me?

Steps that I have performed so far are:

1)       Installed Serna 3.8

2)       Installed the Idiom fo plug-in into the C:\Program 
Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo folder.

3)       Installed the XEP into C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\xep folder

4)       Installed the saxon.jar in C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\xep\lib folder.

5)       Installed the ICU4j.jar in C:\Program Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8
\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.4\demo\fo\lib\ folder.

6)       Added saxon.jar to the classpath in the startcmd.bat file (also 
attached)

7)       Made a copy of the dita2pdf.bat and did modifications as per FO 
readme instructions. (Attaching the modified dita2pdf_xep.bat)

8)       Run the "ant -f integrator.xml"  from the C:\Program 
Files\Syntext\Serna-3.8\plugins\dita\DITA-OT1.</description>
    <dc:creator>Sonu Mangla</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T11:10:28</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/542</link>
    <description>Hello,


This information is useful for us but we need some more details about 
the issue.
Please, describe the problem step by step:
 - which templates do you use?
 - do you create or open document?
 - which commands do you use while editing the document?

Please give us as much information as possible.

Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.



</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-03T09:23:11</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/541</link>
    <description>Hello,


Thank you for your bug-report. I've managed to reproduce the issue. It 
is submitted to the engineers.

Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.




</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-02T10:05:18</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/540">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1 (fwd)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/540</link>
    <description>Hello,


This is not a bug really.
It's possible to customize Serna view for each document separately. See 
documentation:

"Syntext Serna 3.8 User's Guide" -&gt; "Customizing Serna" -&gt; "Making 
Customizations" -&gt; "Serna View Customization" -&gt; "Changing Serna View" 
-&gt; "Serna GUI Layout Customization"


In your case we suggest you save view of the documents where docked 
"Insert Element" dialog is necessary. You should do the following:
  - open document
  - dock "Insert Element" dialog
  - click "Main menu" -&gt; "View" -&gt; "Save view..." menu item
  - click "Save" button in "Serna: Save view" dialog -&gt; then "Insert 
Element" dialog will be docked for all documents opened with a 
particular template.

For more information see Serna documentation:

"Syntext Serna 3.8 User's Guide" -&gt; "Customizing Serna" -&gt; "Making 
Customizations" -&gt; "Serna View Customization" -&gt; "Saving Customized 
Serna View"



Thank you.
Regards,
Nadia Sidorova.



</description>
    <dc:creator>Nadezhda Sidorova</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-01T12:59:13</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/539">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/539</link>
    <description>Hello,

It's not an expected behavior, of course.
The question is too complicated to be answered at once. Your inquiry has 
been
forwarded to our engineers for working it out.

Thank you.
Regards,
Daria Chernova


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Grzegorz Junka wrote:


</description>
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    <dc:date>2008-06-25T10:05:45</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/538">
    <title>[Serna]  Serna 4.0b comment 1</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/538</link>
    <description>Hi,
I am using two monitors and Serna 4.0b version. Whenever I select any option
from Element menu (i.e. Insert Element, or Element Attributes) the window is
being opened on the other monitor than the Serna program itself (i.e. if Serna
is on monitor 1 these windows are being opened on monitor 2). It is not very
useful and rather annoying. I hope that feature is not an expected behavior?
Regards
Grzegorz Junka



</description>
    <dc:creator>Grzegorz Junka</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-22T19:43:38</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/537">
    <title>Re: [Serna]  Compiling non-standard attributes with DITA open toolkit</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.serna.user/537</link>
    <description>Hello Grzegorz,

Yes,  XSD does provide that capability to enforce content via datatypes. 
For instance, making sure that dates follow ISO 8601 standard. I just 
uploaded some fixes to OASIS a couple of weeks ago. Both are equivalent, 
but if there is a discrepancy  between the two, the DTDs will be 
normative. 

If you are planning to use the out-of-the box topic types, either one will 
be fine.  If you have a requirement for entities, then you have to use the 
DTDs (remove XSD).  If you are planning on creating new specializations 
then DTDs are easier.  The XSD 1.0 spec does not make specialization an 
easy process.  I hoping that we will be able to simplify things when XSD 
1.1 comes out.


You will need to change multiple files, because each topic will need to 
add the xmlns and xsi attributes.  To get a sense of what file would need 
to be changed for the DTDs look for %arch-atts; in the *.mod files.

If you don't remove the doctype in you will get both. I think that the 
best suggestion, at the moment</description>
    <dc:creator>Eric Sirois</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-02T14:28:16</dc:date>
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