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    <title>HPV week in Allegre, July 12th-20th 2008, France</title>
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    <dc:creator>Jean-Charles Gosselin</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/44</link>
    <description>Carl and Mark Mueller here, now now children, watch your language! or 
there will be no dessert for you later!




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    <dc:creator>Carl Mueller, MHP</dc:creator>
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    <title>Re: www.steppebysteppe.com.au</title>
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    <description> 
 
First, this is a worldwide forum encompassing many issues, including the exchange of images on a wide assortment of browsers. Second, you seem to be a bit unclear on what constitutes "standard".
 
++ Cornel Ormsby ++
+Las Vegas, Nevada+


      
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    <dc:creator>LioNiNoiL</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-11T22:11:44</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/42</link>
    <description> 
 
Someone appears to be unclear on a few concepts.
 
++ Cornel Ormsby ++
+Las Vegas, Nevada+


      
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    <dc:creator>LioNiNoiL</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-11T22:05:00</dc:date>
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    <title>why flash is bad</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/41</link>
    <description>mallard said:

www.inygb.com/search?q=why+flash+sucks

It's fine if you're an artist, or you only want to allow artistic
types to use your website. But it's difficult to do Flash well, and
some would say impossible. Here's a simple test - fire up the screen
reader that is part of your OS and try to navigate a Flash program
with your eyes shut. Now try viewing it on a mobile phone. So, let's
try that again from Japan. What's that, you have to be able to read
English to navigate it because the GUi is unlike any other website.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html


Moz

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    <dc:creator>Moz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-11T10:07:55</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
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    <description>

I agree. I wasn't able to view anything but a  blank page on my  
computer. If someone wants me to see what is on their website I  
shouldn't have to download something in order to be able to view it.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Zach Kaplan Cycles
Alameda, Northern California, North America
510-522-BENT (2368)
zakaplan&lt; at &gt;earthlink.net

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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/39</link>
    <description> 
 
This is not about my machine, nor about me. This is about a web-page (URL below) that has no non-flash content, nor alternate HTML content, even though its template recommends both and provides locations for both.
 
www.steppebysteppe.com.au
 
++ Cornel Ormsby ++
+Las Vegas, Nevada+


      
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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/38</link>
    <description>So, download the Flash reader to your machine and you can see it. 

Are you adverse to using the Flash reader, if so what technical or other reasons do you have?

I'm a web developer so am curious about what people's opinions are.

tom mallard
   .net web apps - project mgmt
      consumer product design

----- Original Message -----
From: "LioNiNoiL" &lt;lioninoil&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com&gt;
To: ihpva&lt; at &gt;ihpva.org
Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 4:41:20 PM (GMT-0700) America/Phoenix
Subject: Re: [IHPVA] fairing

Roger Chao wrote:
 
 
No, I can't.
 
There is no non-flash content, nor alternate HTML content.
 
++ Cornel Ormsby ++
+Las Vegas, Nevada+


      
_______________________________________________
IHPVA mailing list
IHPVA&lt; at &gt;ihpva.org
http://whpva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ihpva
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    <title>Re: fairing</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/37</link>
    <description> 
 
No, I can't.
 
There is no non-flash content, nor alternate HTML content.
 
++ Cornel Ormsby ++
+Las Vegas, Nevada+


      
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    <dc:creator>LioNiNoiL</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-08T23:41:20</dc:date>
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    <title>fairing</title>
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    <dc:creator>Roger Chao</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-08T12:30:50</dc:date>
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    <title>list back online</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/35</link>
    <description>This list is back online should anyone want to use it...

Brian
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    <dc:creator>Brian Wilson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-07T18:42:12</dc:date>
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    <title>Icebike race Brantford Is ON</title>
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    <dc:creator>Joe Mitrovic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-15T00:27:23</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/31">
    <title>PLEASE EXPECT DISRUPTIONS on these mailing list</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/31</link>
    <description>HEY EVERYONE!! How's it going?

Several people have mentioned that the IHPVA.org mailing list archives
are messed up.  I know this and I AM NOT FIXING THEM.  :-)
Well ACTUALLY I will but in a round about way.

Once a year or so I jump in here and say running IHPVA.org is my HOBBY so
that I don't feel so guilty about it not being run flawlessly.

The current Internet service provider lost ANOTHER hard drive about 2 weeks
ago and the server that IHPVA lives on is still limping. NO I don't need money
but thanks for asking. TIME would help but money would not help
since I would only spend it on more GPS equipment and go hiking to test it!
If I gave the money to the ISP they would spend it on donuts or golf
clubs or ham radio equipment-- It would not go into better server
equipment... let's not talk about it!

Keeping all this IHPVA.org stuff going at the moment is very taxing for me.
I have about 10 minutes a week to devote to it right now.

The guy who does their system backups there and generally keeps all
the</description>
    <dc:creator>Brian Wilson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-08T06:05:03</dc:date>
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    <title>Terry Black/R4/FWS/DOI is out of the office.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/30</link>
    <description>
I will be out of the office starting  08/30/2007 and will not return until
09/04/2007.

If you need assistance right away, please contact Jim Chandler
(303.236.8193) or Jim Behrmann (303.236.4526).

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    <dc:date>2007-09-01T22:06:39</dc:date>
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    <title>Niagara Velomobile Happening Niagara ONT</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/29</link>
    <description>Niagara Velomobile Happening Sept 22 - 23
THIS EVENT'S FOCUS IS ON FULL FAIRED VELOMOBILES (DESIGNING, BUILDING &amp; PRACTICAL USE) 
AT REG RODARO'S WORKSHOP, (near) NIAGARA ON THE LAKE, ONTARIO
SATURDAY - WORK SHOPS  - SPEAKERS - DEMONSTRATIONS - BBQ. AND POT LUCK.
SUNDAY  Breakfast ride plus hands on workshops
BLUE VELO will have a Waw, Quest, Mango, go-one3 and Versatile for the Sunday Country Ride .For more information http://www.hptabrant.ca/velo2007.htm



Email - hpta&lt; at &gt;rogers.com
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    <dc:date>2007-09-01T13:14:16</dc:date>
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    <title>CHIN Recumbent Race Pics</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/28</link>
    <description>http://www.hptabrant.ca/chinrace.htm
</description>
    <dc:creator>Joe Mitrovic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-01T16:43:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Terry Black/R4/FWS/DOI is out of the office.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/27</link>
    <description>
I will be out of the office starting  05/26/2007 and will not return until
06/06/2007.

If you need assistance right away, please contact Jim Chandler
(303.236.8193) or Jim Behrmann (303.236.4526).

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    <title>CHIN Recumbent Races</title>
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    <description>News Release

For Immediate Release

 

RECUMBENT CYCLISTS LEAD THE PACK IN ALL-NEW RACES AT CHIN INTERNATIONAL PICNIC.

 

BANNED BIKES TO BE SHOWCASED IN NEW RACES THAT PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE DIAMOND-SHAPED BIKE.

 

TORONTO, June 6, 2007 - Recumbent Bikes may still be banned from international racing but they've found a new home at the CHIN International Community Races.

 

"This is very exciting because it is the first race for recumbents in Canada since the 1930s. The Tour de France outlawed recumbents because they gave an unfair advantage to riders," said Leslie Sutch, Treasurer of the Human Powered Transportation Association, an organization which promotes the use of human powered vehicles, such as bicycles. In 1934, the Union Cycliste International (UCI) banned recumbent bicycles from international racing, saying that recumbents were not bicycles. Since then, recumbent races have come to exist in various parts of the world but international races still remain outlawed by the UCI. On Saturday,</description>
    <dc:creator>Joe Mitrovic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-05T00:47:58</dc:date>
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    <title>Rickshaws</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/25</link>
    <description>Hi

I need a bit of advice and stumbled across your site. Hopefully I am
in the right place and on the right mailing list!

I have a chance of buying a pushbike that has an engine all ready
strapped to the front wheel. One of the things I have wanted to do for
ages is build a rickshaw but I live in Cornwall, England. Very hilly.
So I have been thinking, could I utilise this bike with the engine,
build a frame of the bike and then when a hill comes, flick a switch
and get swept majestically up the hill.

Is this possible please? Any ideas whether there are plans that might
help me. I'll have to take the idea to a welder. Any welders in and
near Cornwall who might be able to help?

Many thanks.
</description>
    <dc:creator>Richard Brown</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-22T12:49:53</dc:date>
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    <title>Terry Black/R4/FWS/DOI is out of the office.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/24</link>
    <description>
I will be out of the office starting  05/08/2007 and will not return until
05/16/2007.

If you need assistance right away, please contact Jim Chandler
(303.236.8193) or Jim Behrmann (303.236.4526).

</description>
    <dc:creator>Terry_Black&lt; at &gt;fws.gov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-12T22:09:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Recumbent Races CHIN Picnic Toronto July</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.iphva/23</link>
    <description>The Midweek Cycling club has offered The Human Powered Transportation Association members a race opportunity in the upcoming CHIN picnic Race event July 1 2007 in Toronto Ontario Canada

Race 1 - 2 wheelers? M &amp; F Recumbent Race 

At least 10 riders for each class should be preregistered.

Last year, it was an estimated 250,000 people that attended the picnic.  
Imagine the publicity for recumbents, for recumbent groups/clubs and especially for businesses selling recumbents if we managed to scrape up enough riders for Midweek to actually hold recumbent classes in their race schedule annually?

Email hpta&lt; at &gt;rogers.com to get registration info or check out upcoming events at www.hptabrant.ca for details

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    <dc:creator>Joe Mitrovic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-12T17:59:47</dc:date>
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