http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5615 <pre> Sam has a documented protocol. It doesn't rely on a graphical display at all (although it does work rather nicely with a remote sam and a local graphical samterm). A curses client could easily be written. It still wouldn't be as efficient over the network as the graphical client, though. The main benefit of sam over ed is structural regexps, and filewise rather than linewise regexps. ed can be a pain in the ass in that regard at times. Even if sam doesn't live everywhere, I prefer it where it's available. </pre> Kris Maglione 2009-11-05T10:21:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5614 <pre>[2009-11-05 04:18] Kris Maglione &lt;maglione.k&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; The problem with sam is that it depends on a graphical display. If there is none available it's just like ed (with some extensions). As ed lives everywhere, while sam does not, I rather user ed. meillo </pre> markus schnalke 2009-11-05T10:15:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5613 <pre>[2009-11-04 23:00] Jacob Todd &lt;jaketodd422&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; I use ed regularly too. (At least several times a week.) btw: GNU's version of ed sucks. We all expected that already, aren't we. But Heirloom ed is nice and deals well with UTF-8. meillo </pre> markus schnalke 2009-11-05T10:11:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5612 <pre>2009/11/5 Kris Maglione &lt;maglione.k&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: Sam sucks less, but it's unusable without a mouse and there is room for a less sucking editor ;) Kind regards, Anselm </pre> Anselm R Garbe 2009-11-05T09:22:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5611 <pre> It's called Sam. </pre> Kris Maglione 2009-11-05T09:18:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5610 <pre>2009/11/5 Uriel &lt;lost.goblin&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: Get a faster computer ;) vim starts for me without any delay (but I got proper hardware, which might be the reason). Yes it's a shame. I think a suckless editor would simply be some kind of a viewer that integrates the real ed. In a sense vi done right. Kind regards, Anselm </pre> Anselm R Garbe 2009-11-05T09:13:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5609 <pre> I use ed almost every day, it is by far the fastest way to to small edits, by the time vi starts up, I have typed /foo\n c\n bar\n .\n wq\n Plus as others have noted it can be scripted. And here is the thing about ed, I know (or used to anyway) every command and feature inside-out by heart, while *nobody* knows what 1% of the vim options do! Recently I was stuck on windows with a improperly built vim that was using DOS line endings by default, it was fucking hell to figure out that the right option to solve the problem was to use the *ffs* setting! There are about a dozen slightly different flags all of which affect how line endings are set! For Fucks Sake! uriel </pre> Uriel 2009-11-05T08:49:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5608 <pre> Clone? Don't be absurd. Heirloom, Plan 9, and most of the BSDs still provide the original ed. </pre> Kris Maglione 2009-11-05T07:32:30 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5607 <pre> Nonsense. It still has its place in: * scripted/batch editing * editing files on embedded systems or for system recovery * blind users (see edbrowse) Besides, those who ignore the past ... -Mark </pre> Mark Edgar 2009-11-05T05:36:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5606 <pre>No one uses ed (hopefully), so it doesn't really prove anything other than GNU and whoever else is maintaining an ed clone are stuck in the dark ages. </pre> Jacob Todd 2009-11-04T23:00:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5605 <pre>Hi, Here's a patch that fixes what I think is a "problem". Others might disagree. This allows me to paste into firefox the urls which I "yank" in surf. Peter On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Anders Andersson wrote: --- a/surf.cMon Nov 02 09:29:54 2009 +0100 +++ b/surf.cWed Nov 04 16:00:34 2009 -0500 &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; -177,8 +177,10 &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; if(paste) gtk_clipboard_request_text(gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY), pasteuri, c); -else +else { gtk_clipboard_set_text(gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY), c-&gt;linkhover ? c-&gt;linkhover : geturi(c), -1); +gtk_clipboard_set_text(gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_CLIPBOARD), c-&gt;linkhover ? c-&gt;linkhover : geturi(c), -1); +} } void </pre> Peter John Hartman 2009-11-04T21:02:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5604 <pre>Sirius companies are sirius On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Jack Woehr &lt;jax&lt; at &gt;well.com&gt; wrote: </pre> pancake 2009-11-04T20:57:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5603 <pre>Hi, * Tadeusz So??nierz &lt;tadzikes&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; [2009-11-02 09:39]: OK fine. Yes that was what I meant. Cheers Nico </pre> Nico Golde 2009-11-04T20:38:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5602 <pre>Perhaps next time I may use notepad if I manage to stay nice and calm. But you're right, if I was any rational I would bomb away this whole fucking building. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Kris Maglione &lt;maglione.k&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: </pre> hiro 2009-11-04T20:33:53 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5601 <pre>Thanks, I plan to add this to all my upcoming great java software :) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Uriel &lt;lost.goblin&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: </pre> hiro 2009-11-04T20:30:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5600 <pre> or by the Illuminati? </pre> Moritz Wilhelmy 2009-11-04T20:21:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5599 <pre>Jack Woehr dixit (2009-11-04, 12:30): After Wikipedia: The only profitable division of the company is its Complaints division, which, according to the series, takes up all of the major landmasses on the first three planets in the Sirius Tau system. The theme song for the Complaints division is Share and Enjoy, and has since become the theme apparent for the company as a whole. The main office building and headquarters for the company was originally built to represent this motto, but due to bad architecture it sank halfway into the ground, killing many talented young complaints executives. The downside to this is that the upper halves of the motto's words now read, in the local language, "Go Stick Your Head in a Pig." </pre> Antoni Grzymala 2009-11-04T20:10:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5598 <pre> I just have to be a pedant and point out that it's the Serius Cybernetics Corporation. And for once manually choose my sig. </pre> Kris Maglione 2009-11-04T20:06:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5597 <pre> Perhaps you should just hang your sysadmin. Why would you ever use such crap? Doesn't every computer in the world have at least vi and ed (vi on Plan 9 not being an editor...)? </pre> Kris Maglione 2009-11-04T20:02:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5596 <pre> This reminds me that besides the "not suitable for nuclear reactors" disclaimers, all Java software should include the following warranty: http://marvin.cat-v.org/warranty uriel </pre> Uriel 2009-11-04T20:00:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii/5595 <pre>amazing punchcard magic. 2009/11/4 Uriel &lt;lost.goblin&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;: </pre> Enno Boland (Gottox 2009-11-04T19:59:09 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.window-managers.wmii