gmane.comp.window-managers.ion.general

Re: Tab width in 'shaped' bar style

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-30T22:46:13

Other than touching the code for a custom hack? No. Tabs have uniform widths. For a good reason. (I find varying widths confusing.)

Tab width in 'shaped' bar style

Oskar Nordquist — 2008-11-29T23:18:57

Hi, I'm using the style 'shaped' for all my frames (floating and non-floating), i.e.: de.defstyle("*", { bar = "shaped", }), However, the tab width depends on the maximum tab width in their containing frame. Is there any way for the individual tabs to only stretch as far as their own title width? Kind regards,

Re: statusd_mpd-socket.lua

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-19T19:17:53

It's there now. Ah, then the timer hack isn't that bad, although it would be nice to not block on waiting. One of the reasons for the existence of ion-statusd is, however, that scripts can be written without all the care that goes into avoiding blocking. (It would not be nice to block the entire WM!) There are a few minor new features in ion3plus compared to ion3, but the primary reason for using it is if one wants to work on it. Ion3 being stable and not getting new features, just fixes.

Re: statusd_mpd-socket.lua

Marc Hartstein — 2008-11-19T16:01:18

Excerpts from Tuomo Valkonen's message of Wed Nov 19 02:44:38 -0500 2008: Will do, thanks. Yeah, the getting out of the way so statusbar can finish setting itself up before attempting to open a connection is a timer hack. After that, well, mpd doesn't push, so we have to pull. Although an event handler could be useful there too to let us get out of the way of other monitors if for some strange reason mpd is slow to respond (across a network?) I'll look into the event stuff in ion3 the next time I get a bit of time I want to spend on this. Maybe I should switch over to ion3-plus?

Re: statusd_mpd-socket.lua

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-19T07:44:38

I suggest sending it to the scripts repository for easy availability. Also, on a cursory glance, it appeared to be a timer hack. If it's at all possible to get the file descriptor from Lua, I suggest adding it to those selected on for event-based processing. This will require a little bit of C code to add the desciptor, since popen_bgread is currently the only interface and unlikely to work correctly on sockets. While to ion3plus, certainly new interfaces could be added to support selecting on arbitrary fds from the Lua side (and the primary reason the support isn't there, is that fds are not well available from Lua), this can be done with e.g. the TCC/alien/c/invoke hacks disgussed e.g. at http://www.mail-archive.com/ion-general-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w< at >public.gmane.org/msg02559.html

statusd_mpd-socket.lua

Marc Hartstein — 2008-11-19T03:18:02

Re: Can't type queries

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-16T11:23:09

I'm not exactly sure why Xlib handles LC_CTYPEs without the encoding part specified in a fucked up manner, but it does have a locale.alias database of its own, /usr/share/X11/locale/locale.alias, which does e.g. list en_IN: en_IN.ISO8859-1 If Xlib uses this database instead of the information from libc, nl_langinfo(CODESET), and libc has been compiled with a different character set for en_IN, it could be why it's fscked up. The modern (read: shit) toolkits afaik pretty much reinvent all this, being utf-8 monoculturistic [ which also results in nobody bothering to fix Xlib, the generic multibyte routines of which handle utf-8 locales very badly ], and xterm also uses the Xutf8 routines instead of Xmb routines when in an utf-8 locale.

Re: Can't type queries

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-16T08:49:49

It's not Ion. It's Xlib. en_IN.UTF-8 should work, if it's been compiled.

Re: Can't type queries

sughosh ganu — 2008-11-16T07:16:23

Hello, On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Tuomo Valkonen public.gmane.org> wrote: The problem was that ion did not recognize the locale on my system (en_IN). Changing it to en_US.UTF-8 solved the problem. Thanks for the help. -- sughosh

Re: Can't type queries

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-15T09:34:14

Another thing you might look for is, if the startup errors (non-logged; you'll have to dig into the console or .xsession-errors of you run a DM and it supports it) has complaints about "input methods" or "input contexts", in the case that you're running in a strange locale (as your name might imply). Ion only has very basic support for X input managers, so pre-edit windows etc. might not work.

Re: Can't type queries

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-15T09:04:00

IIRC it's a locale setup fuckup. You have to have the encoding specified as part of LC_CTYPE for X, e.g. LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.ISO-8859-1, and you have to have the locale compiled for libc. (Debian: config /etc/locale.gen, generate: locale-gen.)

Re: two quick misc. questions - labeling workspace and changing titlebar height...

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-15T08:59:53

It's not workspace title. It's the window title. Workspace titles aren't shown.

Re: two quick misc. questions - labeling workspace and changing titlebar height...

Juri Mianovich — 2008-11-14T20:22:36

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Tuomo Valkonen public.gmane.org> wrote: I did this, and the workspace still has: xterm<5> in the title. Or in the case of my web browser, the title of the current web page is in the window title. How do I permanently change the label that I see in the purple bar at the top of the current workspace ? Thanks.

Can't type queries

sughosh ganu — 2008-11-14T19:43:31

Hello, I have installed the latest stable version of ion3 (ion-3-20081002 tarball) on my dell xps notebook. I am able to use all the key bindings, but am not able to type into queries. So pressing F3 prompts for a command, but typing does not produce any string. Same is the case with other keys like F4 and F5. I did a grep on the mail archives and found that a similar issue was reported last year. Tuomov had replied saying that there could have been a problem translating the keystrokes to strings. Has there been a fix found for this issue. A peculiar fact is that the issue listed in the mail archive was also reported on a notebook (thinkpad). I have installed ion on PC's and have never come across this issue. Do i need to tweak some X settings to get this working. -- sughosh

Re: quickly cloning an existing statusbar script (date)?

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-14T07:16:11

Where ever you found the following line: The monitor name must be parseable, and should be based on the file name. RTFM: http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion-doc-3/ionconf/node6.html#SECTION00640000000000000000

Re: quickly cloning an existing statusbar script (date)?

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-13T21:24:39

(Bah, stupid slrn messed up something.) On 2008-11-13, Juri Mianovich public.gmane.org> wrote: It doesn't make any sense. You should probably RTFM the basics on writing statusd monitors.

Re: quickly cloning an existing statusbar script (date)?

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-13T21:23:33

Re: quickly cloning an existing statusbar script (date)?

Juri Mianovich — 2008-11-13T21:01:45

Hello, --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Tuomo Valkonen public.gmane.org> wrote: Thanks for your response. I think I will pursue it this way, which is to create a %ukdate. So, in addition to adding a second item to the default template, like this: template="[ %date %ukdate ] %filler%systray", and adding this block of code to cfg_statusbar.lua: ukdate={ ukdate_format=' %a %Y-%m-%d %H:%M UK' } I also need to: - edit the monitor - find the original lua file for statusd_date.lc, edit it for a +7 (hard hack for DST, sorry) and recompile it to a lc file If that is correct, would you tell me what/where "the monitor" is ? I am going to change this line: statusd.inform('date', os.date(settings.date_format, tm)) to this: statusd.inform('date -v +7H', os.date(settings.date_format, tm)) does that seem reasonable ? Thanks again.

Re: two quick misc. questions - labeling workspace and changing titlebar height...

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-13T19:39:44

That's not the workspace name; it's just indicator of an empty frame. Mod1+M workspace/rename Change the style file. PS. Turn on line in your mail program. Max. ~76 characters/line.

Re: quickly cloning an existing statusbar script (date)?

Tuomo Valkonen — 2008-11-13T19:37:25

The monitor must of course be modified to use the correct meter names... ... for which you need to modify the original .lua file. There's no simple way. The date monitor supports multiple simultaneous date formats (rtf config file), so one could add a zone option for them, and modify the values in the date table. But I'm not sure this will have the correct effect. You see, we have this excellent demonstration of the idiocy of mankind, called daylight saving time. And the times it changes, are different for different locales. So, I'm not actually sure you can get good multi-zone dates from libc without Awful Hacks, as it does not support specifying the zone from your code, just through the environment or other configuration files. Better multi-zone dates would probably involve a programming effort with some library better suited to that. Or calling an external program that does it, which is a bit too resource-intensive for a time display monitor. However, libc does support UTC/GMT in addition

two quick misc. questions - labeling workspace and changing title barheight...

Juri Mianovich — 2008-11-13T19:07:33

Hello, When I create a workspace, it is named: And when I start a program in it (an xterm, firefox) the name changes to that. But what if I want to permanently rename that workspace to: "my favorite xterms" (or whatever) and have that name/title stick ? Second, I'd like to change the height of the title bar slightly and have that new height apply to all future title bars. How can I do that ? Many thanks!