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    <title>Re: [Product-Developers] Early Bird Deco Explorers Needed - Idea of setting up "Plone HandsOn Meetings"</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/57</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
For encouraging use of new technologies, this is a good idea. I think 
the best places to do something like this is is probably in conjunction 
with user group meetings or broadly targeted conferences where there 
might be people just interested but not core.


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Geir Bækholt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-02-24T06:29:46</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Product-Developers] Early Bird Deco ExplorersNeeded - Idea of setting up "Plone HandsOn Meetings"</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/56</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi  Geir,
unfortunately we have to wait some time for my feedback on Deco,  
because I am in other projects now. But...


The story of creating a new User-Group Session Format


Origin

Last time we had a local user group meeting in december, Timo  
Stollenwerk did a great wrapup of the Plone Conf input onthe state of  
Plone and the future roadmap. We showed my running deco buildout to  
give the audience a live feeling of Deco and Dexterity.

Both are much more TTW content creation than developers want to mention.


The idea

Some days after the meeting Jan Ulrich Hasecke and I took the time to  
reflect the format of our meetings and how we can improve the  
experience and take our community further.

I had the idea to make coworking sessions similar to sprints, but not  
focused on the development, but more aiming at finishing the real  
world tasks of integrators setting up sites but now also doing this  
side by side in a coworking session. This should not be compareable  
with barcamps nor learning ca&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Armin Stroß-Radschinski</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-01-21T12:57:43</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/55">
    <title>FYI a mention of http://central.wordcamp.org</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/55</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi local Plonistas,
FYI the new simple Wordpress domain / landing page for an overview  
over regional activities with a common branding.
http://central.wordcamp.org

A common branding for local usergroups should be a good starting point  
for fellows focusing on meeting not on organising common stuff from  
scratch. Is there any progress?

be inspired... do not copy, create yourself

Armin

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    <title>West Coast Sprint &lt; at &gt; UCLA - August 27, 28, and 29, 2010</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/54</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Los Angeles Plone Users Group</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-08-13T02:20:19</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Plone foundation to sponsor meetup groups?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/53</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

And I've withdrawn my request, for fear that it appeared too hostile. To
clarify: not trying to be hostile, am trying to help. Help. Not hostile. :-)

But I'll give it a rest for a while.

Best,

Alex


On 7/22/10 4:53 AM, in article C86D7F49.25819%aclark-pzuzLh+EMZSsTnJN9+BGXg&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org, "Alex
Clark" &amp;lt;aclark-pzuzLh+EMZSsTnJN9+BGXg&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-22T23:20:04</dc:date>
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    <title>Plone foundation to sponsor meetup groups?</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/52</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Folks,

Ahem. I'd like to move this conversation forward a bit since it seems to
have stalled. ;-)

As you may recall, I objected to the board's recent rejection of my request
to "fund our meetup" (
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/membership/2010-July/001195.html).

(Of course, that objection was more about process then the actual issue, but
now back to the issue.)

Since then, I've had time to reflect and this is what I see:

- The board outwardly cites a "tight budget" as the reason they can't help.
- Folks like Liz Leddy and Mark Corum are "working on" the board to get them
  to cover meetup costs.

So, my request now is two-fold:

- Liz and Mark, can you detail your efforts here (or would you prefer to
  have them remain private for some reason)?
- I'd like to ask the board to consider ZPUGDC's request for meetup.com
  expense coverage and I can provide any amount of justification as
  may (and should) be required.

To the folks who cited my request as "way off the mark", I respectfully
disagree:
- Our &lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-22T08:53:29</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Starting a Local Meetup + Coordinating BetweenMeetup Groups</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/51</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

On 15-07-2010 16.48, Chris Calloway wrote:

That's what we did when we started the first one in Norway in June. We 
made it a Python meetup, with a bunch of Zope/Plone people. It was a 
success that'll be repeated and expanded on.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Geir Bækholt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-18T23:23:34</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Software foundations funding user group efforts</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/50</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Geir,


On 7/17/10 7:18 PM, in article i1tdnk$mng$1&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;dough.gmane.org, "Geir Bækholt"
&amp;lt;plone&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;baekholt.com&amp;gt; wrote:








Aha, well good to know then, I guess. I may be starting to agree with you,
though that is a bit disappointing and discouraging.


 &amp;gt; If so, then so be it. We have
corporate 
would be
 &amp;gt; "nice" to get the logos of these


On 16-07-2010 20.46, Alex Clark wrote:
 &amp;gt; We
 &amp;gt;
 &amp;gt; that





--


Can you explain why? I mean, this is the essence of user group support isn't
it?

User groups gather frequently because they professionally use software, and
they want to get better using it and they want their software to get better.

Corporations (and individuals) fund user group efforts because they want the
best people to know about them.

The Plone Foundation is a non-profit corporation, whose purpose is to
promote (and protect) the Plone software (which is not that unlike a for
profit corporation doing the same thing e.g. Zenoss).

If the Plone Foundation is being true to its mission, would it not b&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-18T10:24:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Software foundations funding user group efforts</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/49</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
In my personal opinion, the quotes below confirms that you are.

On 16-07-2010 18.06, Alex Clark wrote:
 &amp;gt; If so, then so be it. We have corporate donations. But I thought it 
would be
 &amp;gt; "nice" to get the logos of these foundations up on our siteŠ


On 16-07-2010 20.46, Alex Clark wrote:
 &amp;gt; We want to promote Plone. We feel that in promoting Plone, we are adding
 &amp;gt; value. We are asking for some financial compensation in exchange for
 &amp;gt; that value.

This is about as far off the mark as you can get in my world.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Geir Bækholt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-17T23:18:11</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Software foundations funding user group efforts</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/48</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-16T18:46:28</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/47">
    <title>Re: Software foundations funding user group efforts</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/47</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Elizabeth Leddy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-16T17:31:00</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/46">
    <title>Software foundations funding user group efforts</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/46</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Folks,

I want to open a discussion on the following subject and would appreciate
your feedback.

First, read this thread:
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/membership/2010-July/001195.html. Second,
tell me what you think about it. :-)

I'm generally under the impression that software foundations exist to
promote the software they were created to support. But I've received a "no"
from both the Zope and Plone foundations, and no reply from either the
Python or Django foundations.

Meanwhile, we continue to go above and beyond the norm to support their
software in our area. We will continue to do so regardless of their
decisions of course, and I hold absolutely no animosity toward them for
their decisions, but I am just very curious about the process.

What is it about supporting our efforts that these foundations are not
buying in to? Am I missing something obvious? What can I do better to make
them listen? ;-)

My point/question is basically this: am I that far off the mark that all
four foundations are going&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-16T16:06:45</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Starting a Local Meetup + Coordinating BetweenMeetup Groups</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/45</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Ditto that.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Chris Calloway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-15T14:48:25</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/44">
    <title>Re: San Francisco User Group Sprint Followup</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/44</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-05T05:35:42</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/43">
    <title>San Francisco User Group Sprint Followup</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/43</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Elizabeth Leddy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-02T17:05:30</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/42">
    <title>Added Plone Lounge and Boston Plone links to zpugdc.org</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/42</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;FWIW, 

I just updated: http://zpugdc.org/

With links to Boston Plone and Plone Lounge :-)

Don't forget you can "brand" your meetup by customizing the domain. So,
eleddy for example, you could make your group's web address:

http://meetup.plonelounge.org

(it's in the meetup control panel somewhere toward the bottom IIRC)


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-30T01:18:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Starting a Local Meetup + Coordinating BetweenMeetup Groups</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/41</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
Usergroups-G3yHMj00SlOLbbK5bonKug&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org
http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/usergroups
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-30T01:15:41</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Starting a Local Meetup + Coordinating BetweenMeetup Groups</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/40</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
Usergroups mailing list
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&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-30T00:26:48</dc:date>
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    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user-groups/39</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,


On 6/27/10 12:18 PM, in article
AANLkTinVEOzHA-vpOx514Y_wR-GyJuVqOKZ2LKYs1QZ1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org, "Nate Aune"
&amp;lt;natea-cNZgzcB+5vhWk0Htik3J/w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:


The single best thing you can do IMO is to open up your group to "Python
people" at large. Of course, you have to provide the content (e.g.
Python-centric talks). But that's not too terribly difficult.

In our meetups, we usually start off with an around the room where we ask
people "What is your current favorite Python-based technology?"

And then folks tell us what they are working on. My "favs" are usually Plone
or Zenoss or Zope specific, but not always.

The point is, as Plone has its roots very deeply in Python, and even though
not everyone digs on Zope 2, or the ZTK, or Plone, etc., it somehow "just
works". The Plone people get to think outside the box a bit. And the Python
people get a taste of Plone. Win win.


+1



&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alex Clark</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-30T00:09:38</dc:date>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt;_______________________________________________
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&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Elizabeth Leddy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-29T23:23:10</dc:date>
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