gmane.comp.tex.live

Re: "GNU/kFreeBSD" in TLUtils.pm

Karl Berry — 2012-05-26T00:26:12

    In TLUtils.pm, the string
      'amd64-kfreebsd'   => 'x86_64 with GNU/FreeBSD'

    should be changed to
      'amd64-kfreebsd'   => 'x86_64 with GNU/kFreeBSD'

Right, thanks, done.

"GNU/kFreeBSD" in TLUtils.pm

Nikola Lečić — 2012-05-25T16:23:52

Hi,

In TLUtils.pm, the string

  'amd64-kfreebsd'   => 'x86_64 with GNU/FreeBSD'

should be changed to

  'amd64-kfreebsd'   => 'x86_64 with GNU/kFreeBSD'

Best,

Re: "Perl.exe has stopped worling"

Philip TAYLOR — 2012-05-25T13:25:25

Additional information from CMD transcript :

Installing [2090/2377, time/total: 01:48:01/02:02:41]: texlive-scripts [69k]
tar: Could not create file install-tl: Permission denied
untar: untarring E:\Layered 
products\TeX\Live\2012\temp\texlive-scripts.tar fail
ed (in E:\Layered products\TeX\Live\2012)
untarring E:\Layered products\TeX\Live\2012\temp\texlive-scripts.tar 
failed, sto
pping install.
Installation failed.
Rerunning the installer will try to restart the installation.
Or you can restart by running the installer with:
   install-tl.bat --profile installation.profile [EXTRA-ARGS]
Writing install-tl.log in current working directory.

Thanks Norbert.

Herbert Schulz — 2012-05-25T11:51:00

Howdy,

After the problems with updates using tlmgr (via TeX Live Utility on Mac) yesterday (detailed by Bruno and quickly diagnosed by Norbert) today there was a new tlmgr and the downloads went smoothly. Thanks for the quick fix Norbert.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

"Perl.exe has stopped worling" (was : Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: very annoying!)

Philip TAYLOR — 2012-05-25T09:22:07

Replicated :

Re: Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: veryannoying!

Philip TAYLOR — 2012-05-24T22:35:29


Reinhard Kotucha wrote:

<Many words of wisdom>

Thank you, Reinhard.  Trying now, initial problems are as follows :

1) Highlight default value and paste does not trash contents of field
2) Shift-home/end keys do not work as expected
3) Cursor (I-beam / insertion point)flashing at end of string but
delete ("Backspace") action takes place at beginning of string
4) Restoring focus to GUI having previously removed focus is unreliable.

** Phil.

Re: Report of pretest intallation in Windows XP and 7.

Denis Bitouzé — 2012-05-24T20:54:07

Le jeudi 24/05/12 à 21h48,
Siep Kroonenberg <siepo< at >cybercomm.nl> a écrit :


I experienced a `Perl has stopped working' trouble yesterday with
another student on a Windows system. This came from an active
anti-virus. Disabling it the time of the installation resolved the
problem. I would advise to clearly warn the user about this on the
installation dialog boxes.

Re: Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: very annoying!

Reinhard Kotucha — 2012-05-24T21:47:07

 > I have steered well clear of getting involved in TL 2012 testing,
 > but as a responsible Windows advocate I recognise my responsibility
 > to participate in testing when requested.  If you can reassure me
 > that installing TL 2012 will in no way compromise my ability
 > to run TL 2011 unchanged, if you can send brief instructions
 > for performing a network installation, and if you can outline
 > exactly what it is you would like tested, I will be happy to
 > oblige (at least, in my Win-7 32-bit Sandbox VM).

Hi Phil,
by default you can have different TL releases installed at the same
time.  They don't interfere.  But AFAIR you modified the directory
structure on your machine(s).  If true, I recommend to check the paths
in the directories menu carefully before pressing the install button.
But I assume that with a modified directory structure it's even more
unlikely to clobber an existing installation.

If all you did was to replace "texlive" by "TeX/Live", then I don't
expect problems.  If you changed

Re: Update to texdoc.cnf

Alan Munn — 2012-05-24T17:44:58


Sorry, yes, I was being imprecise. It doesn't get the right document.  Oddly, on my system the order is slightly better.  I'm not running the 2012 pretest right now.

alan$ texdoc -l l3clist
 1 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/expl3.pdf
   = The LaTeX3 Programming Language
 2 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/interface3.pdf
   = LaTeX3 interfaces
 3 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/l3styleguide.pdf
   = LaTeX3 style guide
 4 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/l3syntax-changes.pdf
   = Syntax changes
 5 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/source3.pdf
   = Sources of the whole bundle
 6 /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/README
   = Readme


I think this is all for now.  I had some discussion with Frank and Joseph about it.  If there's anything else missing, I'll let you know.

Alan

Re: Report of pretest intallation in Windows XP and 7.

Siep Kroonenberg — 2012-05-24T19:48:17

Interesting. We have gotten more reports of `Perl has stopped
working', without so far having got the faintest clue what that was
about. At least, now we have your report of an error which may have
triggered this.


Even if the right TL is not first on the searchpath, all TL menu
items find the corresponding TL first. We added a command prompt
menu item with the corresponding TL at the front of the searchpath
especially to deal with this Windows misfeature.


On vista/w7, you have to explicitly ask for admin privileges even if
you are an admin user. The question was not asked because the
installer did not have the required privileges.

We could warn about limited privileges, but in most cases it would
just make things more complicated for the user for no good reason.

Re: Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: veryannoying!

Philip TAYLOR — 2012-05-24T19:29:22

I have steered well clear of getting involved in TL 2012 testing,
but as a responsible Windows advocate I recognise my responsibility
to participate in testing when requested.  If you can reassure me
that installing TL 2012 will in no way compromise my ability
to run TL 2011 unchanged, if you can send brief instructions
for performing a network installation, and if you can outline
exactly what it is you would like tested, I will be happy to
oblige (at least, in my Win-7 32-bit Sandbox VM).

Philip Taylor
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Denis Bitouzé wrote:
 > Le mercredi 23/05/12 à 11h52,
 > Norbert Preining<preining< at >logic.at>  a écrit :
 >
 >> Everyone, please test as far as possible on Windows computers!
 >
 > Sorry, I can't test as I don't own Windows computer myself.

Report of pretest intallation in Windows XP and 7.

Dan Luecking — 2012-05-24T18:02:36

I have installed the pretest on window XP SP3, and on Windows 7.
Mostly it went well. I installed a custom scheme and all errors
(except one, but I'll get to that) seem to have been my fault.

Once I had everything installed, I installed some extra packages,
deleted others, and ran tlmgr update --all. All went well on both
machines.

The winXP installation was on my office computer with a fast
internet connection. It completed in just over 1 hour with no
problems.

The win7 installation was on my laptop with a home DSL connection.
It took a little over 3 hours total, with a glitch at about 2.5
hours, probably due to a corrupted download.

I have only two concerns.

1. Th mentioned glitch was a message from tar, complaining of
"unexpected end of (something)" followed by a pop up window
saying perl "has stopped working" and the installation aborted.
I think this was a corrupted download of xifthen. It seems
strange that an error in tar could lead to perl hanging, but
that could be windows-specific.

When I re

Re: texdoc Documentation for einfuehrung Is Incorrect

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard — 2012-05-24T17:38:11

Sorry for replying so late. Fixed now. Thanks for your suggestion.

Manuel.

Re: Update to texdoc.cnf

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard — 2012-05-24T17:10:00

Hi,

On 23/05/2012 17:19, Alan Munn wrote:

Do you really mean "fails to find any" or just "doesn't show the correct one
first"? Here I get:

mpg< at >roth:~% texdoc -l l3clist
 1 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/README
 2 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/expl3.pdf
 3 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/interface3.pdf
 4 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/l3styleguide.pdf
 5 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/l3syntax-changes.pdf
 6 /home/mpg/tl/trunk/Master/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel/source3.pdf

Ok, I copy-pasted your list to the distributed texdoc.cnf, thank you for
providing it.

I must admit I'm not at all up to speed with latest l3 developments, and I'm
short on time to look into the document right now, so if you feel like checking
if other l3-related aliases are needed, your help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Manuel.

Re: Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: very annoying!

Denis Bitouzé — 2012-05-24T14:02:43

Le mercredi 23/05/12 à 11h52,
Norbert Preining <preining< at >logic.at> a écrit :


Sorry, I can't test as I don't own Windows computer myself.

Re: Impossible to the make TL GUI window short: very annoying!

Denis Bitouzé — 2012-05-24T14:02:02

Le mercredi 23/05/12 à 07h42,
Norbert Preining <preining< at >logic.at> a écrit :


Sorry, it was the 2011 version.

Re: [MacTeX] TL'2012: Trouble with today tlmgr

Herbert Schulz — 2012-05-24T11:56:13

On May 24, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:


Howdy,

Same experience as Bruno. Following his suggestion in (4) and then (6) seems to have worked for now. Hopefully this will all get straightened out tomorrow when TeX Live Utility installs the corrected version of tlmgr.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Re: Sorting out updmap/updmap-sys-troubles

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard — 2012-05-24T11:26:50

The TL installer doesn't create any per-user local tree. On Unix, many user
accounts don't represent "real" users, so it would be a nightmare to figure that
out. Some directories such as TEXMFVAR are created automatically the first time
they are need, others like TEXMFHOME need to be created manually the first time
the user needs them.

Right.

Manuel.

Re: Sorting out updmap/updmap-sys-troubles

Ulrike Fischer — 2012-05-24T11:15:07

Am Thu, 24 May 2012 10:34:57 +0200 schrieb Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard:

 


But probably such a normal user can't create local trees in the home
directory ("user profile" on windows) of other user. So I assume the
other user will have to extend the installation somehow at first
use. 

Imho something like this could also be done on windows.


I think that is a good idea. Quite a lot users want simply to use
TeX for themselves, don't really understand the difference between
using a tool "as admin" or "as user", and are bewildered that local
user configurations and files take precedence over the files of the
the almighty admin.

Re: TL'2012: Trouble with today tlmgr

Norbert Preining — 2012-05-24T09:23:24

Hmm, I have perl 5.14.2, maybe that makes a difference.


Yeah, what I suspected, thanks for checking.

Norbert
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Re: TL'2012: Trouble with today tlmgr

Victor Ivrii — 2012-05-24T09:17:24


I observed the same error on MacOSX 10.7.4
perl 5, version 12, subversion 3 (v5.12.3)

and on RHEL 5
perl, v5.8.8 built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi


and your remedy worked on both

Victor
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