gmane.comp.lib.shoes

Re: BDD & shoes

Hugh Sasse — 2009-08-19T10:58:50

        [...] 

I only know of one for Tk, which is expectk, part of the expect distro.
See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Libes
I'd like to know of others.
Appropriate aphorism:
http://www.biostat.wisc.edu/~annis/commentary.html#37

        Hugh

Re: BDD & shoes

* William — 2009-08-19T10:29:04

Hi all

This thread sounds really good.  I can't recall if I mentioned AutoIT on
here before.  It is a Windows based tool for catching GUI messages, etc.
And you can run it form Ruby (on windows).

   *  http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/downloads.shtml

If one does BDD on gui-s something like this is probably essential at some
point.

Can anyone say if there's a similar tool for Linux based gui-s or the Mac?

w.

2009/8/19 Evan Farrar <evanfarrar< at >gmail.com>

Re: BDD & shoes

doug livesey — 2009-08-19T09:06:35

Cheers -- I've starred that for future reference.
& bacon, too -- looks interesting.

Re: BDD & shoes

Evan Farrar — 2009-08-18T22:07:10

I've been recently rewriting my app's models to use sqlite, and as I do it
I've been using bacon. I only test my models, but maybe one day I'll invent
some sort of Shoes integration test to test view code too.

The key is to make it so that your code can be loaded with Shoes or with
Bacon. Keep the view and models in seperate files and load them using "if
defined? Shoes".

If you want do dig through some code examples, I have it here:
http://github.com/evanfarrar/opensprints/tree/rewrite


On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Devyn Cairns <devyn.cairns< at >gmail.com>wrote:

Re: BDD & shoes

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-18T21:12:39

I don't think so. You could write your own GUI for RSpec though :)

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:08 AM, doug livesey<biot023< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Editable listbox

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-18T18:18:11

Get it now? Native widget = OS widget, like a button etc.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Seth Thomas
Rasmussen<sethrasmussen< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Editable listbox

Seth Thomas Rasmussen — 2009-08-18T18:14:26

/facepalm

Re: Editable listbox

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-18T18:13:04

So, he wants a drop-down box like this:
http://i.msdn.microsoft.com/Aa511458.DropDownLists30(en-us,MSDN.10).png

That is a native widget. The Shoes "button", "edit_line", etc. are all
native widgets, because they have the styling/function of the native
operating system.

I was suggesting that in the mean time, create your own non-OS widget
with Shoes, using things like flow and para, and :click.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Seth Thomas
Rasmussen<sethrasmussen< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Editable listbox

Seth Thomas Rasmussen — 2009-08-18T18:08:24

Again, I wish I could continue this conversation more easily, but I
just can't keep track of what you're referring to.

:'(

Re: Editable listbox

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-18T18:06:39

As in a native widget, such as GTK+2, Cocoa, etc.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Thomas
Rasmussen<sethrasmussen< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Editable listbox

Seth Thomas Rasmussen — 2009-08-18T18:04:48

I started this reply, but I don't remember what you're referring to
there.. if only there were some way to format email replies such that
the context remained clear..


class Foo < Shoes::Widget
  def initialize
    para "sup"
  end
end

That's the gist of it. You can of course add any supporting methods,
arguments to initialize, etc. that standard Ruby code allows. One key
thing to remember is that self is a slot in this context. All widgets
make a new slot.

Re: Editable listbox

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-18T17:57:08

That would require a new widget. I'm not quite sure if _why wants do
add very many new widgets unless absolutely necessary though, because
Shoes is not a traditional GUI toolkit.

You could write your own Widgets in Shoes, though, like I'm doing with
the MMORPG game I am creating in Shoes.

I don't have the code handy. Anyone know how to write Shoes::Widget code?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Daniel Heath<daniel.r.heath< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Editable listbox

Daniel Heath — 2009-08-18T12:38:43

Has anyone figured out a way to make a listbox in shoes which allows the
user to enter their own text?

 

- Daniel

Re: Transforming Ruby/Shoes app into a Windows binary?

Mathew Cucuzella — 2009-08-18T01:49:27



You are right. I must be thinking of something else I wanted to use for my
app.

-mat

BDD & shoes

doug livesey — 2009-08-17T15:08:41

Hi -- is anyone doing BDD with shoes?Is it easy?
Does it (please, please, please) involve Cucumber and RSpec?
Can anyone send me any pointers?
Thanks, I'll stop asking questions like a 5yr old, now.
   Doug.

Transforming Ruby/Shoes app into a Windows binary?

Stephen Davies — 2009-08-17T14:46:18

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WM_CLASS on Linux

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-16T06:50:29

xprop on Shoes gives the following:

_NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 25819115
WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
window state: Normal
icon window: 0x0
_NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 0
_KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 19, 0
_NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 19, 0
_NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT,
_NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, _OB_WM_STATE_UNDECORATED
_NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP,
_NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_MINIMIZE,
_NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ,
_NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_ABOVE,
_NET_WM_ACTION_BELOW, _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE
_NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) = 48, 48, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 220220039,
320883335, 320883335, 320883335,

teaching Shoes to high school girls

Sarah Allen — 2009-08-16T04:40:47

Sarah Mei writes about her experience teaching Ruby and Shoes with a  
guest blog post on the teaching kids site:
http://teachingkids.railsbridge.org/2009/08/15/teaching-ruby-to-high-school-girls.html

Sarah put together an awesome, innovative curriculum that integrated  
agile practices to create a compelling learning experience.

Re: Transforming Ruby/Shoes app into a Windows binary?

Devyn Cairns — 2009-08-17T06:06:46

The list_box element IS a drop-down box, or are you talking about
something else?

Re: Transforming Ruby/Shoes app into a Windows binary?

Mathew Cucuzella — 2009-08-17T01:48:44

A few things you should seriously consider first.

1. Like Etienne described very well, check out your API's first. I would say
this includes the GUI. My fairly small program works great under Linux, but
crashes all the time under Windows. I don't think Windows support is really
there yet.
2. If Windows support is improved in the upcoming version, I think that will
be based on the next Ruby version, so make sure you don't have any
incompatibilities there either.
3. I think _why has pretty much said that Shoes is more of a drawing
platform than a forms-input style application platform. Make sure you have
all the form elements you need (e.g., no drop-down boxes). It doesn't look
to be a safe bet that Shoes will be going in toward form styled applications
in the future.

Otherwise of course, its very easy to pick up and fun to use.

-mat

2009/8/11 Manuel Souto Pico <manuel.souto< at >star-group.net>

Re: From all of us at the Shoes adventurer's list... goodbye!

Alexandre Gomes — 2009-08-14T19:59:26

Hey, I didn't want to be usubscribed from the list.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:56 PM, the Shoes adventurer's list <
shoes< at >code.whytheluckystiff.net> wrote: