http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/973 Dear all, Let me just report that 3.10 is now published on the website, thanks to the help from guys on the IRC. Now we are waiting for Ralph and Edgar to do an official announcement of the final 3.10 release. Best regards Janko Janko Mivšek 2008-05-08T21:34:47 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/972 Probably the best way for getting answers to these kinds of questions, even if not a beginner, is by joining: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners> Ken G. Brown At 2:20 PM -0400 4/26/08, Roi E. Childers apparently wrote: <> Ken G. Brown 2008-04-27T00:45:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/971 did you try searching on the wiki: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Roi E. Childers <Roi-29UZh3YjX4OsTnJN9+BGXg< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: Brad Fuller 2008-04-26T21:36:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/970 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam Roi E. Childers 2008-04-26T18:20:06 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/969 Staffan, I don't know the problem, but you could ask on the squeak-dev or beginners mailing list. This might be a universal problem so I will copy the squeak-dev mailing list to see if anyone has an answer (if anyone has an answer for Staffan, could you also copy him directly) A similar question was raised on the beginner's mailing list so you're not alone. Here's the conversation with a possible work-around: ================================ I don't have any Vista experience, but here's a shot in the dark, courtesy of google: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/prevent-explorer-from-freezing-with-large-zip-files-on-vista/ Or, if you have had good past experience with .zip files using Winzip+Vista, maybe try downloading a different version of squeak from http://ftp.squeak.org, like 3.9 perhaps, and see if it unzips correctly. ----- Original Message ---- From: globalrev <skanemupp< at >yahoo.se> To: beginners< at >lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:52:23 PM Subject: [Newbies] Sq Brad Fuller 2008-04-24T15:37:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/968 Hi Antonio and the web team, I just changed /Community, Education corner to: Squeakpolis is the website that include anything the teachers need using Squeak at their classrooms in Extremadura, Spain as you proposed, Antonio, and removed a Small-land link from /Projects. Please keep us informed when you'll have some news, our news team will be glad to put them out on http://news.squeak.org ! Best regards Janko antonio wrote: Janko Mivšek 2008-04-24T09:38:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/967 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam Ragga Dajj 2008-04-23T17:02:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/966 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam antonio 2008-04-23T10:27:22 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/965 Antonio, Should be project name be a new one then: Sqeakpolis instead of Small-land? Janko antonio wrote: Janko Mivšek 2008-04-23T10:45:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/964 I think he meant http://squeak.educarex.es/Squeakpolis Karl karl 2008-04-23T10:01:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/963 Hi Antonio, antonio wrote: I see a broken link on /Community, Education corner: Small-land is a project using Squeak on 80.000 school computers in Extremadura, Spain. and on /Projects, Education: Small-land is a project using Squeak on 80,000 PCs in Spain Can you provide an exact link to the right site. My Spanish understanding is too little to find it by myself on a site you provided :) Best regards Janko Janko Mivšek 2008-04-23T08:18:21 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/962 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam antonio 2008-04-22T07:49:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/961 Hello Michael, I have been using Bazaar to version control my images, I am just getting to grips with it, and I think it is fantastic, better than mercurial for managing squeak images. So I have set up a server that I can use, and make public at some point. My typical workflow involves, downloading the version I want, unzipping, copying, moving the version into my "Originals" folder, applying LPF, copying that moving that into my "LPF" folder, and then copy that to a working directory in which I start to load the packages that I need. In looking at the Bazaar user manual, it allows some interesting ways of organizing a reporistory of versions/branches. Here is a sample of my current repository structure. /squeak/3.10/.bzr /squeak/3.10/LPF/.bzr /squeak/3.10/LPF/pr_tools/.bzr /squeak/3.7/.bzr /squeak/3.8/.bzr /squeak/3.8.1/.bzr /squeak/3.9.1/.bzr /squeak/3.9.1/LPF/.bzr The directory /squeak/3.10/.bzr is a repository for the base version, which contains within it, the repository for the LPF image that was d Keith Hodges 2008-04-19T18:59:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/960 ... Hi Stephan, I wonder if you're aware of the discussion that Damien Cassou and (I think) Oscar Nierstrasz had on the squeak-dev mailing list where they proposed building a fixed "newbie" image that could then be used by everyone writing tutorials. This would address one of the frequent causes of newbie questions - "I'm trying to do X, but instead of Y happening, I'm getting Z", and this turning out to be because of a behaviour changing in the latest version of the image (eg default browser changing, menu options moving or being renamed, mouse button preferences changing, underscore behaviour, different versions of packages being imported etc etc). The ability to configure Squeak images to one's own preferences and requirements is one of its strengths for experienced users, but a cause of extreme frustration to new users (as can be seen by reading the logs of the #squeak irc channel). Andrew Black reflected on this a while back when he said of the experience of getting novices into Squeak: "My greatest Michael Davies 2008-04-19T17:20:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/959 Thanks for the message Steve. We are waiting for the release team's final decision on how they want it to be released and waiting for the packaging for each platform. You can still get it from the ftp site, though. brad On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Stephan B. Wessels <swessels-j9pdmedNgrk< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: Brad Fuller 2008-04-18T00:21:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/958 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam Stephan B. Wessels 2008-04-17T00:38:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/957 Thanks for the input, Ken. We don't provide a link to seaside and other squeak variations on the squeak.org download page. But, we do have a brief explanation, with links, on the front page. These links take the user right to the appropriate website that has much more info than we can give at the squeak.org site e.g.: ============== * Seaside is a framework for developing sophisticated dynamic web applications by using Continuations dramatically easing the complexity of web application development. * Croquet is an open source software platform for creating deeply collaborative 3D multi-user online applications. It features a network architecture that supports communication, collaboration, resource sharing, and synchronous computation among multiple users. * Sophie is a digital media assembly tool to combine images, text, video, and audio into a single multimedia document such as slideshows, presentations and annotated video ============== Is the request to have something like this on the Brad Fuller 2008-04-14T22:39:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/956 A new back-to-Smalltalker had requests today on #Squeak for a bit better info for what is included in downloads. So basically before clicking a download, whether it be for a dev, web, croquet or other image, what is included in the download? And of course, as part of improving the new person's experience, all-included QuickStart downloads would be a potential improvement. Ken G. Brown Ken G. Brown 2008-04-14T21:16:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/954 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam-bD51WKytQuJI8mQ4nJOOf3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA< at >public.gmane.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam James 2008-04-14T12:58:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/953 Hi Darlene, Matthew suggested the Squeakland website and that's a fantastic resource for teachers. Highly recommended. On your particular error, it might be that your computer is blocking the site (are you using Vista?) I don't know what we can do about that, but I'd like to try to see if we can help So others don't have this problem in the future, what link did you take that gave you the error? thanks and welcome to Squeak! brad On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:58 PM, darlene trevathan <darlenetrevathan-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: Brad Fuller 2008-04-11T14:40:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam/952 www.squeak.org is a web-site mainly intended for computer programmers. If you are looking to teach mathematics using squeak, http://squeakland.org is where you should go to find tutorials, curriculum, sample projects, and the like. First, you should probably subscribe to and send an introductory email to the Squeakland mailing list: http://www.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland Matthew Fulmer 2008-04-11T07:53:48 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.webteam