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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18023</link>
    <description>You rock! (And consequently must be very tired).

I'll try moving BioPerlTest into Bio::Root::Test (might be tricky)...

chris

On Dec 3, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Heikki Lehvaslaiho wrote:

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    <title>Re: [Gmod-gbrowse] bioperl-live &amp; annotator plugin</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18022</link>
    <description>Hi Sean,

Did your plugin break when you upgraded to GBrowse 1.7, or when you upgraded
bioperl? Knowing this will help me figure out where to look for the problem.
It frankly looks like a database problem in the sense that the xyplot glyph
is trying to render 100 features rather than a feature with 100 parts.

Are you sure this step is correct?

$feature_list-&gt;add_type($matrix=&gt;{glyph   =&gt; 'xyplot',


It seems to me you intend to add the $feature, not the $matrix variable.

Lincoln

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Sean O'Keeffe &lt;okeeffe&lt; at &gt;molgen.mpg.de&gt;wrote:



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    <dc:creator>Lincoln Stein</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T15:49:45</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: [Gmod-gbrowse] bioperl-live &amp; annotator plugin</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18021</link>
    <description>I take it back. You should add the matrix in add_type(), assuming that
$matrix is some sort of descriptive term.

Lincoln

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Lincoln Stein &lt;lincoln.stein&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;wrote:




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    <title>Re: [Gmod-gbrowse] Bioperl 1.6 and Bio::Graphics</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18020</link>
    <description>Hi Chris,

I am supportive of splitting out Bio::Graphics, but not the Bio::DB::*
modules before the 1.6 release. The only dependency issue is the module
Bio::Graphics::FeatureBase, which is a lightweight hash-based
Bio::SeqFeatureI module that is shared between Bio::Graphics::Feature and
Bio::DB::SeqFeature. It should be renamed and kept in the main bioperl
distribution.

Will it confuse people if I rename this module Bio::SeqFeature::Lite?

Lincoln

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Fields &lt;cjfields&lt; at &gt;illinois.edu&gt; wrote:




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    <title>Re: [Gmod-gbrowse] Bioperl 1.6 and Bio::Graphics</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18019</link>
    <description>Lincoln,


Okay, we can do that.  Would you want that to be under bio-graphics in  
subversion, or should we think ahead a bit in case other Gbrowse- 
dependent modules migrate there and call it something else?


Bio::SeqFeature::Lite works for me.  I can't see that causing too many  
problems as long as Gbrowse installation always picks the latest dev  
or CPAN release based on the version (though I don't know if there are  
any documentation fixes we need to take care of, maybe on the wiki).

chris

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    <dc:creator>Chris Fields</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T17:07:43</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: PullHSP bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18018</link>
    <description>

It appears the problem boils down to a small inconsistency with the  
way blank IDs are handled between the two BLAST parsers.  The regular  
blast parser explicitly sets this to '', while blast_pull leaves it  
undef.  When one constructs a LocatableSeq w/o an ID it dies, but ''  
works, hence the problem.  I don't think using '' is a real solution  
though (seems like something added to silence errors).

The short and easy fix is either having get_nse() or blast_pull fall  
back to '', but both are technically wrong as there isn't a true ID.   
Ideas?  Maybe a fallback 'unknown' ID (which seems to be used as a ).



I don't think going back to the old behavior would be the correct  
thing to do.  When adding seqs to a SimpleAlign, the NSE is used to  
index sequences and check for conflicts.  The index was previously  
built from scratch (didn't use LocatableSeq::get_nse) but was recalled  
using get_nse, which is inconsistent.  If get_nse changes slightly,  
such as optionally adding the version to rema</description>
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    <title>Re: on FootPrinter</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18017</link>
    <description>Try installing a more recent version of BioPerl by following the
directions at http://www.bioperl.org/wiki/Installing_Bioperl_for_Unix 

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    <dc:creator>Kevin Brown</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T17:35:06</dc:date>
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    <title>About graphic rendering</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18016</link>
    <description>Hi everybody,
I've a question about a Bio::Graphics rendering. I would like to display a
blast HSP on a track but I would like to draw the "tails" of my mapping
sequence that don't match the subject. So I instantiate these 3 object that
represent all the three segments I want to display:

my $feature = Bio::SeqFeature::Generic-&gt;new(
                                    -display_name
=&gt;$sequence_to_map-&gt;display_id,
                                    -start        =&gt;$hsp-&gt;sbjct-&gt;start,
                                    -end        =&gt;$hsp-&gt;sbjct-&gt;end,
                                    );
my $feature_pre = Bio::SeqFeature::Generic-&gt;new(
                                    -start        =&gt;($hsp-&gt;sbjct-&gt;start -
$hsp-&gt;query-&gt;start),
                                    -end        =&gt;$hsp-&gt;sbjct-&gt;start-1
                                    );
my $feature_post = Bio::SeqFeature::Generic-&gt;new(
                                     -start        =&gt; $hsp-&gt;sbjct-&gt;end+1,
                                     -end        </description>
    <dc:creator>Paolo Pavan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T18:21:50</dc:date>
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    <title>PullHSP bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18015</link>
    <description>Sendu,

I found a silent bug while fixing some issues with SimpleAlign which  
are causing blast_pull tests to fail (HSP-related).  It appears that  
the query sequence ID is not being caught, causing  
LocatableSeq::get_nse() to throw an exception within SimpleAlign when  
using PullHSPI::get_aln.  It appears that the hit seq ID is caught  
properly, though (hence the oddness).  All other SearchIO.t tests pass.

Could you look into this?

...
ok 165
ok 166
ok 167

------------- EXCEPTION: Bio::Root::Exception -------------
MSG: Attribute id not set
STACK: Error::throw
STACK: Bio::Root::Root::throw /Users/cjfields/bioperl/bioperl-live/ 
blib/lib/Bio/Root/Root.pm:357
STACK: Bio::LocatableSeq::get_nse /Users/cjfields/bioperl/bioperl-live/ 
blib/lib/Bio/LocatableSeq.pm:301
STACK: Bio::SimpleAlign::add_seq /Users/cjfields/bioperl/bioperl-live/ 
blib/lib/Bio/SimpleAlign.pm:293
STACK: Bio::Search::HSP::PullHSPI::get_aln /Users/cjfields/bioperl/ 
bioperl-live/blib/lib/Bio/Search/HSP/PullHSPI.pm:471
STACK: t/SearchI</description>
    <dc:creator>Chris Fields</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T23:03:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: PullHSP bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18014</link>
    <description>
On Dec 3, 2008, at 5:38 AM, Sendu Bala wrote:


...fallback in some cases (Can tell I was getting tired).


That solution requires get_nse to silently convert this; the exception  
is raised b/c the N/S-E is used for indexing (so lack of any one of  
those may result in indexing issues, such as replacing sequences with  
same ID but no S-E, etc.).


We don't want the exception turned off unless it is explicitly known  
the sequence instance lacks any or all of the N/S-E, such as in this  
case.  Setting an explicit LocatableSeq flag for such instances  
(force_nse), then having get_nse() DTRT internally would be easy to  
implement.

Odd, list mail hasn't been coming through (bioperl-gut either).  I'll  
post something to support.

chris
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    <dc:creator>Chris Fields</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T15:06:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Fw: Help with installation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18013</link>
    <description>

Assiatu Barrie

Dept. of Biology

Univ of TX, Arlington

Arlington, TX 76019

abarrie&lt; at &gt;uta.edu

assiatu_barrie&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com

www.uta.edu

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Assiatu Barrie &lt;assiatu_barrie&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
From: Assiatu Barrie &lt;assiatu_barrie&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com&gt;
Subject: Help with installation
To: bioperl-l&lt; at &gt;biolperl.org
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:36 AM

Hello

My name is Assiatu Barrie, a grad student from UTA.  I am trying to download bioperl on my mac os laptop but unsuccessful, please help.  I keep getting an error message regarding Make not been installed.  I tried installing Build.pl, but not successful.  I am very very new to perl so I will really appreciate the help.  Thank you

Assiatu Barrie

Dept. of Biology

Univ of TX, Arlington

Arlington, TX 76019

abarrie&lt; at &gt;uta.edu

assiatu_barrie&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com

www.uta.edu


      


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    <dc:creator>Assiatu Barrie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-02T17:40:31</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: PullHSP bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18012</link>
    <description>
I'd say for now at least the fix would be to alter get_nse() to fall 
back to ''. You don't want the work-around code duplicated in multiple 
places. Indeed, the normal blast parser should be altered to return 
undef as well.

Then if a more desirable solution is thought of in the future, there's 
just one place to implement it: in get_nse().
</description>
    <dc:creator>Sendu Bala</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T11:38:30</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: PullHSP bug</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18011</link>
    <description>
I don't see this as a bug of PullHSPI. The blastn report being parsed in 
that failing test has no query sequence id, so obviously PullHSPI can't 
give an ID to the query sequence it creates.

Why does SimpleAlign now fall over when an added sequence has no id? I'd 
suggest the old behaviour be retained...
</description>
    <dc:creator>Sendu Bala</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T00:25:21</dc:date>
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    <title>global verbosity</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18010</link>
    <description>I was looking for a way to set verbosity globally (but not for
debugging), so that all subsequently created objects would be
absolutely quiet. I found $Bio::Root::Root:VERBOSITY, but saw that it
didn't matter to downstream objects when it was changed. Digging in to
the issue, found that global verbosity can't really be set, though one
can access the value of $VERBOSITY with
Bio::Root::Root::verbose(). http://bugzilla.open-bio.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2696
has a patch + .t to Root.pm that I
think solves the issue, allowing getting and setting of global
verbosity, so that the global value now propagates to new objects.

There is a stickier issue (example using Bio::Seq and
Bio::Seq-&gt;primary_seq() in the .t file), in which
setting an object's verbosity post-construction does not propagate to
sub-objects contained in the object, so that one might not get what
one expects. 
cheers MAJ
</description>
    <dc:creator>Mark A. Jensen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T15:23:32</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Fw: Help with installation</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18009</link>
    <description>Assiatu-
You may find the fink installer helpful- see
http://www.bioperl.org/wiki/Getting_BioPerl#MacOS_X_using_fink
cheers MAJ
</description>
    <dc:creator>Mark A. Jensen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T16:32:12</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18008</link>
    <description>2008/12/2 Chris Fields &lt;cjfields&lt; at &gt;illinois.edu&gt;:

Chris,

I'll try to do the rests very soon now. Do not touch the t directory
until I've committed by reorganisations!


Moving to core would be a good thing. Do it.


   -Heikki




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    <dc:date>2008-12-03T18:23:28</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
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    <description>2008/12/3 Chris Fields &lt;cjfields&lt; at &gt;illinois.edu&gt;:

I jsut had long flight that gave me time to think this through!

Now they are done! The ones on the top level are deprecated,
unfinished or can be left there (Perl.t &amp; PodSyntax.t).

I moved some tests from t/Tools into t/SeqTools. All of them give
additional functionality to Sequence objects and are not parsers like
tests in t/Tools directory. The exceptions in current t/Tools
are Analysis subdirectory tests. I would have pulled them and
t/Tools/Run/RemoteBlast.t into t/WebAnalysis.t


I committed all in one go. I suspect that the mail generated is too
long (like in your case) and does not get sent.

  -Heikki



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    <dc:date>2008-12-03T21:48:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18006</link>
    <description>Wow, I go to sleep and the tests are almost reorganized.  Thanks Heikki!

The only (very small) caveat I find to using recursive tests is any  
additional non-test files we add, including data for tests in the / 
data directory, must not end with *.t, otherwise the build file will  
try to run it and bomb.  There was one file I changed to .tt which is  
now passed over.  If needed we can move over to an autogenerated file  
which explicitly lists the tests to run (this would likely be at a  
later point).

On a related point, what does everyone think of moving BioPerlTest to  
core so the other distributions can use it?  I think it is worth doing  
eventually, but it could possibly wait until 1.6.x or 1.7.  I have  
tested it out and it works but needs some dependency issues ironed out.

chris

On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Heikki Lehvaslaiho wrote:

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    <dc:date>2008-12-02T13:37:44</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18005</link>
    <description>
On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Heikki Lehvaslaiho wrote:


...also, just to note, the mail lists appear to be acting up (support  
has been notified).  My commits last night are here:

http://lists.open-bio.org/pipermail/bioperl-guts-l/2008-December/date.html

chris
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    <dc:creator>Chris Fields</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T20:03:27</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18004</link>
    <description>
On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Heikki Lehvaslaiho wrote:


Okay.  I moved Tools already but I'll leave everything else.


That'll be next then.

-c
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    <dc:creator>Chris Fields</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-03T19:53:31</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: reorgansing tests by group</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.bio.general/18003</link>
    <description>Yes, forgot that! The directory needs to be added to the repository:

1. mkdir group
2. svn add group
3. svn move test1.t. group
4. svn move test2.t. group
5. ...


   -Heikki

2008/12/2 Hilmar Lapp &lt;hlapp&lt; at &gt;gmx.net&gt;:



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