http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7028 <pre>Hello All, The web site continues to work for myself and others but apparently Amazon's CloudFront Service is experiencing regional failures. For instance, this site has always worked on the East Coast and Colorado and Texas, but i've seen intermittent failures in California and elsewhere. I will switch services, and try again. On May 17, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Blyth, Mike wrote: </pre> James Robey 2013-05-18T21:08:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7027 <pre>Hello, Those of you still on this list realize that the Laszlo Runtime promoted good coding habits and flexible object oriented behavior, purely in the DOM. For those of us who enjoyed that view-based OO model, there was nothing like it. My name is James Robey, and I used to be a Laszlo developer. For the past year (and in less direct ways, 6 years before today), i've been developing a runtime in HTML that duplicates every good feature (in my opinion) from Laszlo, but with a few new twists that completely blow the lid off of the concept of "Object-Oriented HTML", and in doing so, may be a good replacement for teams wanting to keep a componetized, view-based framework while simultaneously keeping ALL of the best features of HTML/CSS/Javascript intact. Sound too good to be true? Decide for yourself, check out http://nametagworks.com/examples.html It was made public for the first time today (May 15th 2013) despite being largely finished for months. I wrote a lot of personal software on-top of this wor</pre> James Robey 2013-05-16T06:50:36 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7026 <pre> http://jesusmylifechurch.org/coffee/itimKenSan.html </pre> malay_bhr-/E1597aS9LQxFYw1CcD5bw< at >public.gmane.org 2013-02-28T03:56:54 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7025 <pre>Hi- I'm seeing a lot of errors with this message in my OL app: TypeError: $3.startExec is not a function I found this which seems relevant: http://jira.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-5270 It mentions: Discussion with Max revealed that we should pass in "history: false" when we call Lz.swfEmbed( ... ) for a live example, so that we don't irritate the history mechanism. This makes hundreds of firebug errors go away on every page of the developer's guide. What are the implications of passing history: false to the javascript embed command? Is there documentation on what other arguments that command takes? Augusto. </pre> Augusto Callejas 2013-01-17T20:17:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7024 <pre> Ironically, OpenLaszlo did make the switch to HTML5 (formerly called DHTML) long before HTML5 was even on Adobe's radar, but unfortunately, when OpenLaszlo was passed to the new owners they did not do anything with it. They were sitting on a gold mine, a nearly completed cutting-edge HTML5 development framework, but they did not understand that. Sticking with the movie theme, it reminds me of the last scene from Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark where the Ark is put in a crate in some huge warehouse somewhere by some "Top Men" to be lost forever again and Indiana Jones saying "Fools. Bureaucratic fools!... ...They don't know what they've got there." Kevin </pre> Kevin Meixner 2012-12-29T18:25:48 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7023 <pre>Yes, this project sure looks dead. Well, the same fate as Adobe Flex. Any technology or framework which has not made the switch to HTML5 early enough is dead by now. Stevie </pre> Steven Cho 2012-12-17T20:44:29 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7022 <pre>Poor open source project, don't be too sad! Just remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw </pre> Raju Bitter 2012-11-17T10:30:42 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7021 <pre>OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! [clang] Bring out your dead! [clang] Bring out your dead! [clang] Bring out your dead! [clang] Bring out your dead! DEVELOPER: Here's one -- nine pence. DEAD PROJECT: I'm not dead! OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: What? DEVELOPER: Nothing -- here's your nine pence. DEAD PROJECT: I'm not dead! OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Here -- he says he's not dead! DEVELOPER: Yes, he is. DEAD PROJECT: I'm not! OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: He isn't. DEVELOPER: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill. DEAD PROJECT: I'm getting better! DEVELOPER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment. OPEN SOURCE MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against regulations. DEAD PROJECT: I don't want to go in the cart! ... </pre> Raju Bitter 2012-11-15T23:49:16 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7020 <pre>Last time I looked, which was awhile ago, laszlo employees were still doing most of the commits. pulling commits from svn into a git repo is hard. However, Bazaar was actually designed to integrate seamlessly with svn. The question is whether the increased visibility on github relative to launchpad is outweighed by the increased complexity of svn-git interface. If laszlo is no longer doing anything, github starts to look like the easy choice On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM, augusto callejas &lt;augusto-Cfp0V3UEz34AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> David Greisen 2012-11-03T01:27:52 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7019 <pre>Has anyone taken the initiative to take the trunk of SVN and put it on GitHub or some other DVCS site so we can start working on it? I know several companies that still depend on OL that wouldn't necessarily want to see it die, because of the time invested in building their applications on this platform. On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Raju Bitter wrote: </pre> augusto callejas 2012-11-02T23:55:50 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7018 <pre>Steven, CP seems to have take the Laszlo Systems website offline, redirecting to the CP.net website. That is understandable, since CP acquired Laszlo. But it's interesting to see that a search for "openlaszlo" doesn't return a single result for the cp.net website. Tells us a lot about what CP plans to do with OpenLaszlo: Nothing... http://www.cp.net/index.php?searchword=openlaszlo&amp;ordering=&amp;searchphrase=all&amp;Itemid=62&amp;option=com_search Oh, and we are still waiting for the release of OpenLaszlo 5.0, which was planned to happen before the end of 2011: https://twitter.com/openlaszlo/status/122484627616178176 6:33 PM - 7 Oct 11 "&lt; at &gt;Digiplex_BS Yes - we want to release before the eoy. You can see the nightly build candidate (trunk) http://cot.ag/lFKJS8 ^AM " Seems like I wasn't so wrong when I called the 5.0 release vaporware... - Raju </pre> Raju Bitter 2012-11-02T23:34:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7017 <pre>The site seems to be down again: http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps4.9/docs/developers/ Make there should be a periodic script that restarts the web server :) Augusto. On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Amy Muntz wrote: </pre> augusto callejas 2012-10-24T21:56:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7016 <pre>Hi, There has been silence from Critical Path about OpenLaszlo since they acquired it except for a small update notice placed at the top of the OpenLaszlo site (http://www.openlaszlo.org/). The OpenLaszlo community has not been kept in the loop about any official plans about the future of OpenLaszlo since CP took over. I have also not heard anything from any current employee of Critical Path or the subgroup that officially owns OpenLaszlo since they came over. Your guess about the future of OpenLaszlo is as good as mine. Most of the activity on the OpenLaszlo mailing list and OpenLaszlo forums has moved to stackoverflow.com under the "OpenLaszlo" and "Lzx" tags. I think the main people who used to respond to the mailing list now answer each others questions there. There is also a community space if you want to ask a non-programming related question, that would be the best place to ask probably: https://www.assembla.com/spaces/openlaszlo-community/wiki/ Kevin </pre> Kevin Meixner 2012-10-24T19:11:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7015 <pre>Thanks a lot for your answer, Amy. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Amy Muntz &lt;amy-D2yUHGer40LQnzwC+xcbyw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: That means Laszlo is only maintaining OpenLaszlo right now, and will not add new features to the platform? Probably fixing bugs required to be fixed for Webtop projects? For the past two months the developer mailing lists have been quiet, does that mean that all development is taking place behind closed doors in the future? Do Laszlo employees still follow the open source project mailing lists at all? It seems that all questions answered in the user mailing list were answered by people not working for Laszlo. And what about the mobile runtime? Does anyone know which browsers are targeted by the DHTML mobile runtime? And what are the differences between that runtime and the default DHTML runtime? Thanks, Stevie </pre> Steven Cho 2012-10-24T12:14:17 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7014 <pre>Hi Steven, I can share what I know. Laszlo is still fixing bugs in trunk (the current development branch) which means they are funding OpenLaszlo at some level. Their focus is DHTML right now, and SWF as their are regressions. Some recent changes include an overhaul of the click-div code to improve performance for all browsers (except IE9) as well as a number of very subtle focus issues involving input text and the dojo RTE. That said, they are fixing a number of browser-specific bugs in those areas. They are not focused on the web site or management of the open source project, but the code and the changes they are making are still available and ongoing. Amy On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Steven Cho &lt;st.c.cho-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Amy Muntz 2012-10-17T21:55:37 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7013 <pre>Some people in the industry I've been talking to said that Laszlo doesn't fund the project any more, especially after the acquisition by Critical Path. The Laszlo Systems website doesn't seem to be updated as well, maybe they have gone out of business. Stevie </pre> Steven Cho 2012-10-17T21:04:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7012 <pre>A number of people have been asking these or similar questions in the past; at the moment it seems that Laszlo or Critical Path are not able to provide precise answers. - Raju </pre> Raju Bitter 2012-10-16T13:28:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7011 <pre>You can use JavaScript or ActionScript as well to create cookies, but as Sebastian said: The question is if that's really needed, since you can create the cookie on the server-side when submitting the form. http://www.w3schools.com/js/js_cookies.asp Doing the processing on the server-side has the advantage that you don't have to deal with runtime specific code on the client for creating cookies (ActionScript and JavaScript). - Raju </pre> Raju Bitter 2012-10-16T13:24:51 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7010 <pre>Upgrading from iOS 4.3.5 to 6.0 fixed this problem. On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:55 PM, augusto callejas wrote: </pre> augusto callejas 2012-10-16T07:07:19 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7009 <pre>You would basically store it in the server side session and reload it into the browser. Sebastian 2012/10/15 Jean-Marie Landri &lt;jeanmarielandri-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; </pre> seba.wagner-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org 2012-10-16T06:59:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user/7008 <pre>I'm unable to load my OpenLaszlo application on iPhone (but able on iPad). When I run the Debug Console, the following error is reported: JavaScript execution exceeded timeout. (LFCdhtml.js) I'm running OpenLaszlo 4.9.0, DHTML Runtime. Has anyone else run into this error? If so, how can I refactor my code so that I can avoid it? Other folks running into this error doing web development have suggested breaking down JavaScript execution in smaller parts: http://stackoverflow.com/a/7787988 If I know the corresponding areas in my LZX file that I should break into parts, then I could follow the same approach. Thanks, Augusto. </pre> augusto callejas 2012-10-16T01:55:26 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.java.openlaszlo.user