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Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Monte Goulding — 2012-05-26T03:30:13

I was just chatting to John the other day and it's not abandonware. 

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On 26/05/2012, at 12:52 PM, Gerry Orkin <gerry.orkin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:


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Re: Standalone problem

J. Landman Gay — 2012-05-26T03:25:08

Congrats. :) I know it was a difficult trek. I've never had to deal with 
any of that, and I don't think I want to.


I always assumed the IDE reads that file so it knows what externals to 
load at launch. Presumably that would avoid problems if some of the 
files in the folder aren't really externals, or if some should be 
intentionally excluded. Maybe someone else knows for sure.


Short answer: yes, you need to manage standalones. The newsletter 
article is about using externals in the IDE but doesn't apply to 
standalones. Once the app is built it's on its own, and it needs to know 
how to find the files. So do that by either hard-coding a relative path 
in the inspector ("Externals/myexternal.bundle") or by setting the 
externals property in a startup handler.

I'm not sure the IDE will know to build the standalone with your 
external, even if it's in the proper location where the IDE can find it. 
There's no interface in the SB where you can specify a custom external 
(though maybe "search for inclusi

Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display

J. Landman Gay — 2012-05-26T03:04:02

The launch screen shouldn't matter, your app doesn't really start until 
that disappears. What may be happening is that the "wait" command is 
blocking, and preventing the first card from drawing. Try "wait 4 
seconds with messages" and see if that helps.

If it doesn't, then use "send" instead:

on openCard
  send "goCard" to me in 4 seconds
end openCard

on goCard
  go to "Card2"
end goCard

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Gerry Orkin — 2012-05-26T02:52:04

Is MobGUI abandonware? Does anyone know if John is working on updates?

Cheers

Gerry

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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-26T01:43:32

As mentioned , that work great but now I have a couple of other issues.

When I drop into the field that  accepts drops, the dropped text is
highlighted.  How can I get rid of the highlight?  It looks like maybe I
have to use the dragEnd message even though that is sent to the source of
the drag/drop not the destination.

In some circumstances, I want to be able to select text in the target
field, then drag text from the source field to the target field and have it
replace the selected text.  However, it seems that LC does not retain the
selected text of a field once the cursor is placed in another field, in
this case the source of the drag.  I can probably figure out how to save
off the selected text position of the target field when the cursor goes
somewhere else and restore when the drag operation completes but before I
start down that path, is there some simple setting that will take care of
this?


Pete
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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-26T01:29:22

Thank you Mark, that works perfectly.
Pete
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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Mark Schonewille — 2012-05-26T00:48:48

Yes, it should be: set the dragAction to "none"

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Re: Standalone problem

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-26T00:20:01

Jacque,
Bit late on this but I've just successfully built an external( whooppee!)
and am now left with the task of installing it in the correct place.

I understand your explanation in this thread.  I guess my question relates
to the newsletter article that explains how to make an external and use it.
 In there, it tells you to make a folder structure like

~/My Livecode/Externals/Runtime/Mac OS X/x86-32/Externals. (my external is
only needed for OS X).

Then put the external and a text file Externals.txt into the Externals
folder at the end of that chain of folders and also into ~/My
Livecode/Externals.  The Externals.txt file has an entry for each external
in the form:

<external label>,<external filename>

The article claims that the folder structre from /Runtime down isused for
building standalones and the Externals folder higher up the chain is used
by the IDE.  I kinda like that idea actually since it means I can have
development and release versions of an external available without too much
trouble, a

Re: Android/mobGUI/screen sizes

Monte Goulding — 2012-05-25T22:26:57

Well this is an interesting idea. I added a droptool to mergExt the other day and I left the source open for this reason. I guess I could have the external sources available at a higher price. Would anyone be interested at say $1000/year? I guess just having the option there would give pros some security???

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

Peter M. Brigham, MD — 2012-05-25T21:52:28


For anyone who wants this again:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3504108/TextLib.dmg
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3504108/textLib.rev.zip

Re: Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

Matthias Rebbe — 2012-05-25T21:40:08

Hi,

Bob Sneidar already helped me out. 

Regards,

Matthias
Am 25.05.2012 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Rebbe:



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Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

Matthias Rebbe — 2012-05-25T21:26:12

Hi,

last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his  library textlib.rev. The download link is not working anymore. And unfortunately i lost the file.
Could someone help out? Or maybe Peter, if you read this, could you put it online again?

Regards,

Matthias
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Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display

Graham Samuel — 2012-05-25T19:09:50

Tim, thanks for the reply.

I understand about the static image, which I may have confused people by calling a splash screen (although that's what it is). The Apple link you gave shows that I should be calling it a "launch image" although this term is not used in the LC Standalone Application Settings.

My problem relates to the fact that iOS as a standard action begins by showing the launch image when an app is started: the issue is how this is dismissed when the first LiveCode script begins to run - in my apps this is always in a 'startup' handler which goes to the first card of the first stack and has the merit of being executed only once. The startup script does not necessarily display a card.

What I have found is that there is some strange glitch in the way the launch image disappears and is replaced by the first visible LC card. It is possible (although IMHO it shouldn't be since the image is being shown by iOS outside the LC engine as you point out) to prolong the time the launch image is shown by pu

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Mark Schonewille — 2012-05-25T18:35:23

Colin,

You could register a new domain and create a site with links for your book. That way, you only need to refer to that domain name in the entire book, you can easily update links and if necessary you write supplements about alternative tools or the obsoleteness of tools.

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Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Colin Holgate — 2012-05-25T18:24:51

I see where I was going wrong now. I misread Andre as Andreas! I was trying to get Andreas to suggest which of the pages would be the right one to shorten the url of, using his url shortening tool. Only it was Andre's url shortener and not Andreas'!

If I do add iPhoneControlKit to the appendix, I may just go with the IP version url. Come the day that it fails, readers can use Google to track down the new IP address.

Thanks for the help.


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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Mark Schonewille — 2012-05-25T18:13:34

Hi René,

Maybe I gave bad advice. Can the dragAction be set to empty or none? I'll check it later...

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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-25T17:56:59

Thanks Mark.  I tried that but the cursor still didn't change.

I think the cursor I need is the one that is shown in the field where a
drag starts, before you move out of that field - it's that circle with a
horizontal bar through it indicating you can't do something.  I looked
through the LC stacks that have icons/cursors in them but didn't see
anything that l;ooked like it.

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Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Andre Garzia — 2012-05-25T17:54:47


Just paste the long URL there, click shorten and you have a short url.

If you want to host your own, my fon.nu is open source and you could buy a
nice short domain for your book and use it, this way you'd be in more
control.


=)

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

René Micout — 2012-05-25T17:50:10

Le 25 mai 2012 à 19:44, Mark Schonewille a écrit :


Hello Mark,
I can read in the documentation :
"The acceptDrop property is deprecated as of version 2.9. Setting the acceptDrop to true is equivalent to setting the dragAction to "copy".
I don't understand...
René
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Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

Dar Scott — 2012-05-25T17:50:10

Besides being of interest to those who crave such controls, this page has a nice tutorial on how to embed a stack that is not a substack into an app. 

Dar

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Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

Mark Schonewille — 2012-05-25T17:44:05

Hi Pete,

Set the acceptdrop to false in that handler.

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