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Re: DejaOffice / CompanionLink for Outlook

laurelc2001 — 2012-06-24T21:27:22

Looks like I'm one of the few people still using a Palm.  My trusty IIIXE died 2 years ago, and I replaced it with a Palm Pre II.  I never wanted to synch with the cloud, so I started out synching with CompanionLink, but it duplicated items, wouldn't synch all my calendar data, and the notes & tasks applications just took too many keystrokes to get there.   

So last fall I switched to Pocket Mirror for synching and love it - almost like my old IIIXE.

Since the WebOS future is doubtful, I really hope someone comes up with a decent Palm-like smartphone in the future.


--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "alanportman2002" <a.portman< at >...> wrote:

Re: DejaOffice / CompanionLink for Outlook

laurelc2001 — 2012-06-24T21:27:22

Looks like I'm one of the few people still using a Palm.  My trusty IIIXE died 2 years ago, and I replaced it with a Palm Pre II.  I never wanted to synch with the cloud, so I started out synching with CompanionLink, but it duplicated items, wouldn't synch all my calendar data, and the notes & tasks applications just took too many keystrokes to get there.   

So last fall I switched to Pocket Mirror for synching and love it - almost like my old IIIXE.

Since the WebOS future is doubtful, I really hope someone comes up with a decent Palm-like smartphone in the future.


--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "alanportman2002" <a.portman< at >...> wrote:

Re: Using Palms

martin trotter — 2012-06-24T14:16:08

Lo,

On 23 June 2012 21:39, TeresaP <teri.pittman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

There is the g3-g5 google groups mailing list for us PPC mac users.
Its quite active.

I have a powerbook g4 17" and a mac mini 1.5ghz both PPC.

Martin N

Re: Using Palms

dennisthornton1952 — 2012-06-24T13:22:55

Normally my hindsight is pretty darned good but I still have to just scratch my head looking back and trying to understand Palm Inc's decisions!  Hari Kari is all I can figure out!  But I still can't explain why an overwhelming leader in an active and massively growing market would shoot itself!

Nor can I explain why today's vastly superior hardware can't do what I'm still doing on my Palm, or at least not do it as well.  I love new tech and I've been looking to replace my T3 but I still don't see anything that will satisfactorily replace it!

I do think that most heavy duty users of Palm devices, especially those who also embraced DateBk6, were primarily looking for function.  Flash and sizzle is nice but unacceptable unless it works!  I suspect that many of today's high tech device users are less demanding of function, at least enough that the manufactures and software writers fell that they need to cater to the "Wow!" factor.

Long live my T3!  At least until I find something to replace it and DateBk6!

Using Palms

TeresaP — 2012-06-23T20:39:42

Sorry about the recent spam. I think I have those "members" banned. 

I still have my Zire71 and Tungsten C but don't use them any more. I've moved to an iPhone with Life Balance. (and I still try out different software like #todo, which I really liked).  Life Balance still works for me, but I don't GTD like I used to do.  I had a bad experience with digital GTD when my husband was ill. My Palm went down as I didn't have the charger with me (it was back at work) and I still don't really trust digital, although I continue to use it.

It's too bad about Palm. I had hopes for WebOS but they dropped the ball on that too. The Tungsten C is a great machine and it's a shame I don't use it. There was such an outpouring of energy in the early Palm days that I just don't see now. It's a shame.

I prefer to go low-end and have gone back to running a Mac PPC G5 for my work computer. It's fun to be able to use all those free OS 9 programs. I believe we get too caught up in wanting to be one of the cool kids and forget to

Re: Still using Palm ?

Joel 'Twisty' Nye — 2012-06-21T03:28:59

I appreciate the insights... I didn't realize the inroads Palm had made in
its day. Most functions weren't present in my z22. I wish I had as many
answers in bringing the old functionality to hardware that is readily
replaced (eg android.)

Some clarifications follow...

On Jun 20, 2012 6:39 PM, "Voytek Eymont" <voytek-R9dOQT25W9AQrrorzV6ljw< at >public.gmane.org> wrote: > I use
GPS extensively with T3 and TX, Holux bluetooth GPS (size of USB > stick),
Navman, TomTom, cotoGPS, Cetos, Navegador, Pathaway, SailPalm, > ....

Fascinating. Android google maps, navigator, and street view are nice, but
inaccessible when android is used as a phoneless wifi tablet as I use it.

camera... very basic... don't use it.. > I think it only works on T3

Cameras (and webcams) are an android stronghouse. Recording video, even 3D
stereopsis and playback in some models.

there are apps to log open wifi, etc

The Analyzer app gives live graphics of signal strengths, channels and such.


Geocaching Calculator is actually a decryption

Re: Still using Palm ?

Joel 'Twisty' Nye — 2012-06-21T02:42:43

I appreciate the insights... I didn't realize the inroads Palm had made in
its day.  Most functions weren't present in my z22.  I wish I had as many
answers in bringing the old functionality to hardware that is readily
replaced (eg android.)

Some clarifications follow...

On Jun 20, 2012 6:39 PM, "Voytek Eymont" <voytek-R9dOQT25W9AQrrorzV6ljw< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

Fascinating.  Android google maps, navigator, and street view are nice, but
inaccessible when android is used as a phoneless wifi tablet as I use it.


Cameras are an android stronghouse.  Recording video, even 3D stereopsis
and playback in some models.


The Analyzer app gives live graphics of signal strengths and such.


Geocaching Calculator is actually a decryption arsenal for solving
puzzle/riddle geocaches, not a GPS application.

(For that, I use c:geo.)


My z22 was years earlier. It's my only point of comparison (aside from the
ealier-still Palm III), and
very low-end... I'm not looking to compare history, I'm trying to operate
today.

Re: DejaOffice / CompanionLink for Outlook

alanportman2002 — 2012-06-23T11:39:16

When I went Blackberry I needed CompanionLink to link Time and Chaos (love it!) to the Blackberry. It worked flawlessly. 

Good to see life in the old group. Miss my Palm. Especially when the Blackberry decided I didn't need email to my phone anymore but did need three copies of all of my contacts.
 

--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "Dave Persinger" <PERSINGD< at >...> wrote:

Re: DejaOffice / CompanionLink for Outlook

dennisthornton1952 — 2012-06-23T10:47:34

I'm sure that it works better for others because it mostly crashed for me!  I eventually gave up!

Dennis Thornton

--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "Dave Persinger" <PERSINGD< at >...> wrote:

DejaOffice / CompanionLink for Outlook

Dave Persinger — 2012-06-22T18:31:58

I'm still using my Palm TX as my PIM and to track my GTD tasks, memos, etc.  I Hotsync to Outlook 2010.
 
I received a Kindle Fire for Fathers Day.  In looking at PIM apps for the Fire, several TX users said they've been using DejaOffice (a free app) and have found it to be a decent Android equivalent for Outlook.  To sync the Fire to Outlook, there is CompanionLink for Outlook for $50, made by the same company that makes DejaOffice.
 
Have any of you tried these products?  What were your results, if you don't mind sharing?  I'm thinking of giving them a try.
 
Dave Persinger  


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Re: Still using Palm ?

dennisthornton1952 — 2012-06-22T12:49:38

Thanks!  I'll keep an eye out for one of them!

Dennis Thornton

--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "Voytek Eymont" <voytek< at >...> wrote:

Re: Re: Still using Palm ?

Voytek Eymont — 2012-06-22T06:02:10

Dennis,

out of sheer curiosity, I found my two Holuxs, they haven't been used for
several month, if not longer

switched ON, took outdoors (half sky only, not full sky)
also, enabled GPS on my Atrix, held all three together:

my old 1200 got fix after maybe... 30 or 40 secs;
my 1200E got a fix maybe 15/20 sec later
2 minutes later, Atrix sees 6 sattelites, still no fix, and, that's with
benefit of fresh agps data update, versus 6 month, most likely longer last
fix on Holux

which just goes to show my old Palm with the GPS still outperforms
many/some/(at least one?) of new Android phones

(now I need some shrink tubing, I always wonder where my cat wonders too,
might log her)

if I was buying another, 1200 is little more sensitive, BUT, 'E' has
logger, and, significantly better battery life if my recollections are
correct, 1200E is what I would get

I used it last on hiking trip, put inside plastic bag so won't get wet,
worked perfect, apart from 2 or 3 spurious reads inside a narrow 'canyon'

I'll email yo

Re: Re: Still using Palm ?

Voytek Eymont — 2012-06-21T20:57:45

On Fri, June 22, 2012 6:08 am, dennisthornton1952 wrote:

Dennis,

I have two, 'older' and 'newer', both are very good, 'n' one is also
logger, it's really great, don't need to log on Palm, logs directly on the
GPS, in some ways, it made some parts of Palm usage redundant

both are are very sensitive, and, have quick ttff
I think the older one seems little more sensitive

on one occasion, after I didn't use it for months, it got fix faster than
TT that was used 24 hours ago; and, after battery starts warning, it still
has quite decent power reserve

http://www.holux.com/JCore/en/products/products_list.jsp?pno=2

I have M1200 and M1200E

ymmv - but, I'm very pleased with mine

I was tempted to see if I could use it with Android phone, the chipset is
definitely more sensitive (as in 'how far away from direct sky does it
work')

Re: Still using Palm ?

dennisthornton1952 — 2012-06-21T20:08:22

Which Holux my friend?  I have long had a GPS for my T3 (actually bought it for my Handera! <grin>) but I'm looking on ebay for what you have.

Dennis Thornton

--- In GtD_Palm-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw< at >public.gmane.org, "Voytek Eymont" <voytek< at >...> wrote:

Re: Still using Palm ?

Voytek Eymont — 2012-06-20T22:39:08

On Wed, June 13, 2012 4:40 am, Joel 'Twisty' Nye wrote:

/soapbox ON


I use GPS extensively with T3 and TX, Holux bluetooth GPS (size of USB
stick), Navman, TomTom, cotoGPS, Cetos, Navegador, Pathaway, SailPalm,
....


well, yes, I have a SD plug in camera... very basic... don't use it..
I think it only works on T3


TX has WiFi, T3 has SD WiFi, there are apps to log open wifi, etc


don't use that, though I think one of MM players I have does (basic...) utube


PDF was never meant, nor very good, on small screen device, but, there is
Adobe and third party PDF readers


well, I've used GPS for years on Palm, very happy, street nav with TomTom
and Navman, GPSsing with cotoGPS, other apps, log trips, etc, etc
coto is pretty good

ofcourse, when you're comparing, try to compare with similar, ie,

T3 was released in what, 2004 ? put an Android phone from 2004 next to it

I have an Android phone, tablet, they are great, use them all the time

but I still use Palm for what's important to me

I use email on both

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Barbara Nabours — 2012-06-20T22:08:11

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Re: Still using Palm ?

Ronroyfish — 2012-06-14T03:07:24

I have my Tungsten/T in my pocket and 7 more on the shelf for when this one dies (as about 4 or 5 already have over the years).  I've got a dedicated XT running on my desktop for syncing.  My life is on it and can't see anything else replacing it.


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Re: Still using Palm ?

Andrea Butter — 2012-06-13T00:06:47

I am still using a Treo, from a large stash of refurbished Treos I bought on ebay to tie me over until there is a smart phone out there that can actually replace all that is so good about my Palm.  

That's because the most important functions to me are the PIM functions right there with my phone.   I have years of memos, to dos, addresses, calendar entries and I keep adding to them... everything I need to know and have at my fingertips my life is stored in the Palm PIM! And I am not going to give that up for as long as I can.   

When it comes to mobile it seems we have taken as many steps backwards as we have taken forward:  we put up with often atrocious sound quality and dropped calls from cell phones - who'd have accepted that from landlines after the 70s?  the 60s? - for the sake of mobility (which is great to have.) And we've lost the crisp and easy Palm user interface and functionality for the sake of hundreds of thousands of apps (none of which are a fraction as useful to me as the old Palm

Re: Still using Palm ?

Joel 'Twisty' Nye — 2012-06-12T18:40:48

I still keep a charge on my Palm z22, but use it for lookups about once 
a month.  I have an Android phone, specifically an LG Optimus Slider 
(Gingerbread) to use as a tablet (It's a no contract phone from Virgin 
Mobile I do not use as a phone).

Both do adequately with calendar, spreadsheets, calculator, and games.  
Still, there are deficiencies neither seems to overcome...

Android features I wish Palm had:
  - GPS
  - Camera, summoned by shutter button
  - WiFi connectivity and WiFi Analyzer
  - Good tablet web browser
  - Youtube and other video playback
  - MP3 playlists
  - eBooks and PDF readers
  - GCC: GeoCaching Calculator, GPS and Decoding tools

Palm features I wish Android Apps could cover:
  - Instant-on Application buttons for Address Book, Calendar, Memos
  - Better doodling, ala TealPaint
  - recognized handwriting
  - unrecognized handwriting

  ~ Twisty


On 06/12/2012 11:49 AM, richardgemes wrote:

Re: Still using Palm ?

David Griffin — 2012-06-12T16:12:01

I'm still using a Handspring Visor.
And palm Desktop on desk and laptop.
Works a treat for my GTD