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Missing libmpfr.so.1 for building qtmoko on Ubuntu Precise Pangolin12.04 64-bit

Carsten Gerlach — 2012-05-25T20:48:17

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Hi all,

I want to build Qtmoko for the Freerunner GTA02 on my laptop using
Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 64-bit.

I followed the instructions on [1]. I have problems to get
libmpfr.so.1 installed. The program "getlibs" is not anymore available
on [2] so I tried it from [3]. But I get the message:

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~$ sudo ./getlibs -l libmpfr.so.1
No match for libmpfr.so.1
No packages to install
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If I try to continue without this library, I get the following error
(verbose mode in the target section):

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~/Dokumente/OM/qtmoko/GTA02/sources/build$ ../qtmoko/configure -device
neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -rtti -verbose
Testing the system Qt: OK
Qt Extended is using the following locations:
Qt          PREFIX      = /usr
Qt          LIBRARIES   = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
Qt          BINARIES    = /usr/bin
Qt          HEADERS     = /usr/include/q

Re: Stop whininig / be friendly

Christoph Pulster — 2012-05-25T09:38:00

Sean, the remaining OM community is HERE and listening your point of  
view. You do not use this chance, thats a pity.

Openmoko was no fail. You incarnated the idea of a free phone.
After Apple/Androids sucked all our datas and brains, you will be
in the history books of freedom.

Christoph

Re: server update

Timo Jyrinki — 2012-05-23T20:46:29

2012/5/23 Harald Welte <laforge< at >gnumonks.org>:

As a sidenote, I'd say that's something FLOSS communities should
actually learn from commercial entities. Transparency is one thing,
but preparing something well and getting it publicized in the right
way is essential for any sort of success, community or otherwise. Way
too often communities work in the way that kind of says "well there's
me and a couple of other guys/gals who know how the thing really goes,
others can always ask on IRC". Meanwhile, there is always the larger
public perception that matters to success and eg. attracting new
people that can be only affected by proper marketing and other PR.

This naturally is very much seen in Openmoko - the public perception
is very twisted and confused, and has always been since at least
Spring 2009 when Om Inc stopped with the handset business. Even before
that community vs. company picture wasn't clear and we all struggled
to understand what "Openmoko" actually is, and what the community
itself should take re

Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off

alonivtsan — 2012-05-23T15:59:40

Unfortunately, modes no and disable aren't recognized.
After the device woke itself up again two days ago, I just took out the
battery last night and synchronized time using ntpdate-debian without
setting hardware clock. The cat command shows the date is 01.01.2000 and
"alrm time" and "alrm date" at 23:59:59 and 01.01.2000 respectively.
Also, alarm IRQ is yes and "alrm pending" is no. How can no alarm be
pending while there is an alarm time?

Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off

alonivtsan — 2012-05-23T15:38:47

Not sure. Using whatever is shipped with QtMoko v26.



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Re: server update

Patryk Benderz — 2012-05-23T14:48:29

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Harald, I used a smiley with a blink, it was just a joke...

Re: server update

Harald Welte — 2012-05-23T14:23:30

Hi Patryk,

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:58:51AM +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote:


I was not referring to anyone specifically.  The fact is that the
current owners of the name rights will want to know for sure that it is
used non-profit.  After all, we don't want to see some other company
selling Openmoko dishwashers next year, or to create
yet-another-reinvented Android home screen and sell that as Openmoko.

Once you transferred the trademark, the new recipient can do whatever he
pleasee with it, so there should be some trust in an
established/recognized/well-known entity that this won't happen.

Regards,
Harald

Re: server update

Harald Welte — 2012-05-23T14:17:01

Hi Radek,

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:54:32PM +0000, Radek Polak wrote:

The point is one of trust.  If I privately start a conversation with
somebody else, or another organization, then I would normally not
publicize  the content of such private e-mail exchange without
getting some feedback from them first.

Also, the fact when a particular event happens, and how it is publicized
is always considere important in the corporate world.  Now if you like
that or not, Openmoko Inc. was (and still is) a commercial entity.  And
it's up to its management to decide when and to whom to publish
something.

Let's say, e.g. if we had mentioned that there were talks between
Openmoko Inc. and organization XYZ about transferring the trademark, and
then a couple of days later XYZ declines such a request, it would look
quite a bit unprofessional - to the fact that XYZ even might state "why
did they talk about such a transfer without getting our approval first"?

Regards,
Harald

Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off

Łukasz Pankowski — 2012-05-23T13:12:14


Are you using original atd or atd-over-fso? atd-over-fso has the
following bug (which I have not fixed and it may be related): if you set
an alarm at time t0 and t0 happens to be the next alarm and then you
remove alarm t0 and a later alarm will become the next alarm
atd-over-fso will nevertheless wake up the phone at time t0.


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Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off

2012-05-23T12:57:40

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Hello Ed,

Thanks for your replies.

Unfortunately the man command doesn't work with rtcwake on the phone
(but does with other software, e.g. 7zr). A specific command to try
would be very helpful. On the desktop running as root "rtcwake -m show"
shows the alarms that are on (but this command does not work on the
phone, specifically on QtMoko v26).

I noticed the issue regarding the phone turning itself on was reported
in Android on Freerunner's bug tracker here:
http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=24

trevi55 suggested to switch off alarms and update hardware clock. I'll
try this (using "echo -e "W\n" > /var/spool/at/trigger").

Alon.
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Hi Alon,

check if you can use:
/usr/sbin/rtcwake --verbose --seconds 1 --mode disable

Or if disable is not available in your version of rtcwake:

/usr/sbin/rtcwake --verbose --seconds 1 --m

Re: server update

Patryk Benderz — 2012-05-23T07:58:51

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Like ours? ;)

Re: server update

Sean Moss-Pultz — 2012-05-23T04:47:16

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
<hns< at >goldelico.com> wrote:


Dr Nikolaus

Thanks for your feedback. It will be a "recognized non-profit entity
in the Free Software" world. Our main concern is the long term
commitment of the non-profit.

We are pursuing a number of options in parallel. But I won't name any
organizations publicly until we get commitments. That would put unfair
pressure / expectations on both sides.


Sean

Re: server update

Joshua Judson Rosen — 2012-05-22T23:52:11

Or maybe it'll be the Santa Cruz Operation :p

Re: server update

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra — 2012-05-22T19:34:52

On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:23 +0200
Harald Welte <laforge< at >gnumonks.org> wrote:


From the top of my hat I'd hazzard FSFE or Software Freedom
Conservancy... I wonder what the end result will be :)

Rui

Re: server update

Radek Polak — 2012-05-22T20:54:32


I dont get it. Why these secrets? Of course it's not problem to wait a few 
weeks - there was silence from openmoko company for years. But why not be 
open? I think this community deserves it...

Regards

Radek

Re: server update

Harald Welte — 2012-05-22T15:44:23

Hi Nikolaus and others,

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:30:56PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:

I'm not sure if that's really worth the effort and delay associated with
it.


We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active
confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't
want to throw around any names.  By the end of this week, thing should
be a bit more clear.

What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will
have heard of, not some obscure small group...

Regards,
Harald

Re: server update

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller — 2012-05-22T14:30:56

Hi Sean,

Am 22.05.2012 um 16:00 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz:


++


I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide
about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning
the trademark.

What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never
heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will
move us to.

But you may already plan to ask us for proposals.


me too!

Nikolaus

Re: Stop whininig / be friendly

Sean Moss-Pultz — 2012-05-22T14:09:20

Pulster

You and I both know we did what we could behind the scenes to help
you. Patents are an awful mess that really hurt startups. Especially
in capital intensive businesses like ours was.

If you want to come at me, do it like the gentleman I knew you to be.
You have my phone and email. I'm not going anywhere.

Sean



On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Christoph Pulster <openmoko< at >pulster.de> wrote:

server update

Sean Moss-Pultz — 2012-05-22T14:00:04

Dear Community

(Here comes an overdue update...)

Harald, with help from Roh and Gismo, has been updating /
consolidating our server infrastructure and will soon migrate to
modern hardware.

I'm working on transferring the openmoko.org trademark and domain
ownership to a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software
community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some
time. More details will follow.

In the meantime, we're actively looking for a volunteer with strong
sysadmin skills to continue to maintain the infrastructure after these
changes. The basic setup will consist of debian systems with apache,
lighttpd, mediawiki, trac, svn, git, exim, mailman, cyrus-imapd,
openvz, vsftpd and munin. If anyone is interested, please contact
myself and Harald off-list.

Finally, I want to give a personal thanks to Roh and Gismo for all
their work keeping our infrastructure alive.

Sean

Re: ideas for a personal cluster with gta04

2012-05-22T08:00:32


I'm not sure how to answer this withouth the answer turning into a
rambling mess. I'll make an attempt.

Bitlbee is so far the best IM aggregator I have used. It accepts many
IM protocols for input, and provides IRC for output.

The stack I use everyday currently looks like this:

ERC(an Emacs IRC client) - ZNC - Bitlbee

Bitlbee connects to: MSN,  Facebook, corporate networks
using libpurple, Skype, etc.

Facebook uses Jabber, so Bitlbee can in fact front Jabber connections as
well.

I've also added an Ejabberd to the system recently but I haven't gained
much experience yet. Bitlbee will front it also.

So, to summarise pros and cons:

+ bitlbee + znc is a reliable stack that connects me to all my friends.

Even when using the GTA02 I got complimented how well the stack worked
even when I was in the Subway or something. chat connections are held by
ZNC even when the network is flaky.

- I can't do everything over IRC, that XMPP could do. OTOH no one
  complains so I'm not really sure what I'm missing.

-

Re: Stop whininig / be friendly

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra — 2012-05-22T07:28:59

On 21 May 2012 09:51:00 +0200
openmoko< at >pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote:


Thanks for that tidbit, you should probably right about it, officially,
as one more argument against software patents.

The way I see it, software patents on MP3s really *actually* hurt the
inovative (mostly in that it is the most open phone around) OpenMoko
project and its few distributors.

This should not be hushed.

Rui