gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general

Re: include user defined postscript libraries into output

Carl Sorensen — 2012-05-25T21:57:47


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I would probably tend to put it in one of the .ly files.  Perhaps
engraver-init.ly.


It seems to me to be fine.


OSX uses case-insensitive file names as well (at least internally)


Yes -- just use ly:warning to display them.


I would tend *not* to add this to the lilypond source tree.  We are moving
in the direction of avoiding any specific back-end commands, so that
output can be put to any output source (e.g. SVG instead of ps).  This
goes in the opposite direction.

I think this makes a great lilypond snippet.  I'd love to see it in the
LSR.

Thanks,

Carl

Re: Full bar tremolo with accidentals fails

David Kastrup — 2012-05-25T21:42:18


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Re: Full bar tremolo with accidentals fails

Janek Warchoł — 2012-05-25T21:38:58

yep.
Somewhere in the future it may be good to change bug-lilypond into
lilypond-bug, though.  At least in my opinion.

cheers,
Janek

Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)

Mark Polesky — 2012-05-25T18:46:47


I don't know if this would help you, but Nicholas Sceaux wrote an
interesting script to save keystrokes on emacs.  Looks like he hasn't
updated it in a while, so it may require some tweaking, but you can
see it in action here:
http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/lyqi.avi

Here's what looks like the manual for all this:
http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/lyqi.outdated.html

You can browse other related files here:
http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/

Hope this helps.
- Mark

Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz

Hannes Kuhnert — 2012-05-25T15:49:39

David Kastrup schrieb:

That’s too short-sighted. Most people need several impulses for actually doing 
something. So that he clearly stated, he was in need of funding, wasn’t in 
vain—not for LilyPond and not for the culture of free software funding in 
general.

At the talk at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage I found Davids idealism to be quite 
impressive. Although I’m not familiar with the internals of LilyPond, I got 
the impression that his work is valuable. What he showed he was working on 
doesn’t exactly match the problems I’m having, but the direction of the 
development seems to be unrestrictedly support-worthy. In that respect the 
overall situation kind of differs to that of other projects I’m interested in.

I personally am a regular user of LilyPond and I’m still thinking about 
donating to LilyPond resp. David Kastrup on a monthly basis. What I can afford 
would be a really small sum, but doing something symbolic at least feels 
better than doing nothing, I assume …

Hannes

__________

Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz

Hannes Kuhnert — 2012-05-25T14:56:06

David Kastrup schrieb:

That’s too short-sighted. Most people need several impulses for actually doing 
something. So that he clearly stated, he was in need of funding, wasn’t in 
vain—not for LilyPond and not for the culture of free software funding in 
general.

At the talk at Chemnitzer Linux-Tage I found Davids idealism to be quite 
impressive. Although I’m not familiar with the internals of LilyPond, I got 
the impression that his work is valuable. What he showed he was working on 
doesn’t exactly match the problems I’m having, but the direction of the 
development seems to be unrestrictedly support-worthy. In that respect the 
overall situation kind of differs to that of other projects I’m interested in.

I personally am a regular user of LilyPond and I’m still thinking about 
donating to LilyPond resp. David Kastrup on a monthly basis. What I can afford 
would be a really small sum, but doing something symbolic at least feels 
better than doing nothing, I assume …

Hannes


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include user defined postscript libraries into output

ArnoldTheresius — 2012-05-25T09:03:57

If you work a lot with postscript markups, you'll wish to have an easy method
to include 'postcript libaries' (usually prodecure sets) into the PS output,
which will be converted to PDF or other formats. Well, at least I do.

I tried to solve it in my 2.15.39 test installation.
I added to .../scm/lily.scm after line 40 the predefinition of an empty list
in which to collect the file names:
     (begin
       (debug-enable 'backtrace)
       (debug-set! show-file-name #t)))

+(define-public postscript-user-libraries '())
+
 (define-public PLATFORM
   (string->symbol
    (string-downcase
     (car (string-tokenize (utsname:sysname (uname)))))))

I added to .../scm/framework-ps.scm after line 398 the code to output of
these files to the intermediate postscript file at the end of the prolog.
The files will be searched in the defines lilypond search pathes:
   ;; adobe note 5002: should initialize variables before loading routines.
   (display (procset "music-drawing-routines.ps") port)
   (display (procset "lily

Re: ly2video - create videos from your LilyPond projects

FireTight — 2012-05-25T07:00:00


Urs Liska-4 wrote:

I'm using a very long paper size, something like "10 * width of video
resolution" (e.g. 10 * 1280, etc.)


Christopher R. Maden wrote:

Thanks for the feedback!

1) The problem is, I'm a "Python rookie". I know this language for about
half-year, so right now I don't know how to do this.
2) What do you mean exactly? Because most of jerks in videos are created by
YouTube. I really don't know why, but when I watch these videos on my
computer, there are no problems. Maybe it needs higher frame rate, I will
check it out.
3) Yeah, I tried to work with only one long page, but LilyPond generated
that so long, it was unusable... :/ I guess the reasonable maximum of page
width is something between 4-5 meters. That "title issue" was only in alfa
version.
4) Articulation unfortunately doesn't work right now, because I'm
synchronizing notes with MIDI events and I don't know how to separate that
"extra events" of one note. Separate \layout and \midi blocks don't work
too, but I guess I can fix that v

Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction

David Kastrup — 2012-05-25T19:48:40


\relative c' takes a music expression as an argument, and in this case,
the argument is the parallel music << ... >>.

I don't see that you have a "wrong" tie direction.  Take all the
parallel music out, and LilyPond will choose the same tie.  If you want
to flip it up explicitly, probably the easiest way is writing ^~ instead
of ~.

Re: How to cancel voice so ties are right direction

Urs Liska — 2012-05-25T19:44:25

Write ^ or _ before the tilde to force the tie up or down.
Works also with articulations, slurs and many other things.

Best
Urs

How to cancel voice so ties are right direction

Jeff Barnes — 2012-05-25T19:34:55

This snippet illustrates a problem I'm having. The tie on the g is in the wrong direction after I've finished with the voice split. How do I get the correct tie direction? It looks like the \voices are still in scope wrt ties.

Also, why did I lose the \relative c' after the voice split?

\score {
  <<
    \new Staff {
      \relative c'
      <<
        {
          \voiceOne
          g'2
        } \\ {
          \voiceTwo
          c,2
        }
      >>
      <g' c'>4 ~ <g' b>
    }
  >>
  \layout { }
}

Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)

David Kastrup — 2012-05-25T18:03:14


There are several conversion tools.  Frescobaldi is likely one with a
low level of entry pain.


midi2ly, obviously.  It sucks royally for human-created input.  Look up
Viterbi decoders and/or hidden Markov chains for a plan how to do
better.

My personal approach would be to let Emacs record notes and timings via
Midi, and display just the notes without duration.  You manually place
bar checks, and it then calculates the durations in between.  If you
have "typos" in between, you just delete them before quantizing the
measure, and they are taken out including the time they took.

That would seem like an efficient workflow to me, without much of a bad
impact of playing errors and uneven timing: the consequences are local.

Of course, this is purely hypothetical for now, but it seems like a good
plan for somebody (TM) to implement.

how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)

Klaus Föhl — 2012-05-25T17:28:02

Hello,

I like the lilypond notation using \relative being concise and readable.
Entering on a computer keyboard is fairly quick, but still it feels
that playing a melody line would be so much quicker. In particular
if one does not have a typing c4 d e f g1 style but c4 d4. e8 f8. g16 c,1

What "better" methods exist?

For example I have looked into rosegarden output. 
Minor issue:the output is not in relative notation.
More cumbersome are slightly non-aligned notes to the beat
(me being an imperfect human) and in particular varying
note lengths introducing rests where the music and the audible sound
both have none.

I have seen techniques where the pitch is via piano keyboard
and rhythm is via computer keyboard. I am not fully convinced.

I have seen a custom-designed computer keyboard that combines
pitch and duration. It might work well after a learning curve.

What I am tempted is to take midi file information (i.e. gunzip a.rg),
or the rosegarden ly output and reverse-engineer it into event lists.
Whatev

Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz

David Kastrup — 2012-05-25T16:54:59


Forward thinking?  Are we talking about the music publishing industry?


Uh, we _are_ talking about the music publishing industry?  The
fundamental cash cow for the music publishers is content that has, as
opposed to its recurrently retouched and consequently recopyrighted
_printings_, run out of copyright protection long ago.

For better or worse, modern classical music sells far less than old
classical music.

Rant at <URL:http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-26#forum25097>


Tweaks are not preserving a "look", they locally show skills.

Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz

Jeff Barnes — 2012-05-25T16:34:32





If the use of the fonts were covered by LilyPond's license, that would pretty much kill using LilyPond for anything at a publishing house, wouldn't it? Or am I misunderstanding you? Does distributing a pdf of Lily's output potentially mean you have to make Lily's source, the .ly file, or any other artifact the user created using Lily available under GPL? What do I have to provide to satisfy the LilyPonds licensing requirements if I wanted to distribute sheet music I wrote using LilyPond to engrave?


Perhaps with the passing of the old guard old ideas will die. It's not a matter of helping the competition, because the real competition is over content. Open standards and tools help focus attention on the business of publishing content and less on the tools. A company wouldn't have to release its \tweaks, \overrides, etc. and therefore still keep the proprietary look of its published music.

Jeff

Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?

Christ van Willegen — 2012-05-25T15:37:16

Here's the original attachment.

HTH!

Christ van Willegen

Re: Volta + rehearsal mark?

Philip Thomas — 2012-05-25T14:07:24


 



 



 

Hi,

 

I realize, of course, that the above is an old post, and it seems that
Markus has not been active on the forum for a few years. I came across his
post while searching for inspiration in addressing some problems with volta
bracket alignment, and I hoped that Markus's attachment might be useful.
However, what follows his signature in the post is a load of apparently
meaningless characters. If this means that his attachment has gone with the
wind, well that's just the way it is. On the other hand, if there is
something elementary that I can do in order to see the attachment, then I
would be most grateful to hear about it.

 

Cheers, Philip

 

 

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Re: Text on slurs (faking bends etc)

Marc Hohl — 2012-05-25T10:40:33

Hello Pete,

Am 25.05.2012 07:53, schrieb Pete Farmer:
I see that Federico posted a link to the most recent version.
I think that the mailing list is a good place to discuss improvements!

Thanks for joining in,

Regards

Marc

Re: Video recording of LilyPond talk at Chemnitz

Henning Hraban Ramm — 2012-05-25T10:36:32

Am 2012-05-25 um 02:07 schrieb Thomas Morley:


Dito.

I used LilyPond for paid projects in the past (not that the payment  
would have fit my hours), I'm using it to make beautiful songbooklets  
as gifts for my friends (and for myself, of course). The few € I’m  
giving to David are not much more than a warm "thank you".
(I'm still grateful to the other wizards that lowercase minor chord  
names got implemented after my whining.)

I'm a member of DANTE (German TUG) and the ConTeXt group, to  
contribute a bit to TeX's development, and I irregularly throw some 10  
€ at some other project or shareware (NeoOffice, GraphicsConverter,  
CyberDuck...).

That’s not much, but I know I’m one of the better payers in OS world  
(besides that few companies that fund big projects).
And I promised myself to donate the money that I used to give to my  
church, insetad to projects that help making the world a better place  
(most of them not software related).

I paid Adobe some thousand € for several versio

Re: Full bar tremolo with accidentals fails

Colin Hall — 2012-05-25T09:28:29

Thanks, Janek, but if there's confusion here it is due to me.

The original report was to lilypond-user. Rather than get the user to
go through the dance of posting the same material to bug-lilypond I
just treated it as a bug report.

Keith and Eluze have investigated and found no issue.

I think we're done.

Cheers,
Colin.

Re: Full bar tremolo with accidentals fails

Colin Hall — 2012-05-25T09:24:40

Agreed. Thanks.

Cheers,
Colin.