http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9257 <pre>Heya :) On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:57:02PM +0530, Sindhu S wrote: At least one of those emails landed in global the moderation queue that I look after evey so often. I usually don't reject mails unless it's SPAM or very obviously off topic. I'd prefer more list owners so that less mails will hit the global moderation queue. Cool. Do you have a concrete suggestion? I quite sure that we can put up a small text next to the mailing lists. Cheers, Tobi </pre> Tobias Mueller 2013-05-24T01:32:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9256 <pre>Fully agreed Richard, these items are on the Membership Committee's agenda for the next meeting already. 2013/5/23 Richard Stallman &lt;rms&lt; at &gt;gnu.org&gt; </pre> Andrea Veri 2013-05-23T21:49:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9255 <pre>Seems like a valid point. p.s. not saying the current candidates are not valid or worthy :) p.s.s. a valid point that this year we should continue as is. It isn't fair to the ones that have submitted their candidacy on time. </pre> Jared Jennings 2013-05-23T21:00:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9254 <pre>It is not a good thing when there are so few candidates that nearly all have to be elected. With just 8 candidates and a 7-member board, we are only voting about which single one of these candidate not to put on the board. That is getting pretty close to no choice at all. What would we do if there were only 7 candidates? If there were only 6? I propose changing the election rules for future elections so that if the number of candidates is less than 7/4 the size of the board, there will be another request for candidates, giving 5 days for people to step forward. If that squeezes the subsequent step, then expand it by moving all the previous dates 5 days earlier. </pre> Richard Stallman 2013-05-23T20:57:09 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9253 <pre>Hello Andreas, The link originated from here: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list The link is given in the introductory text. Thank you for the correct link! -Sindhu On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Andreas Nilsson &lt;lists&lt; at &gt;andreasn.se&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> Sindhu S 2013-05-23T18:39:41 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9252 <pre>Where did this url originate from? This is the correct url as far as I know: https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/Charter - Andreas </pre> Andreas Nilsson 2013-05-23T18:37:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9249 <pre>Hi, all I was wondering lately what topics are OK to post on this mailing list because lately I have been seeing many people post unrelated topics on mailing lists including this [1][2] such as gtk-list[3], desktop-devel-app[4]. There are 2 posts this month on this mailing list that do not pertain to the idea of this mailing list. While it's OK for a user unaware of these things to post and we can address our replies to him/her only and point them in the right direction, however I think all active GNOME contributors (especially those who are new to the community) must be made aware of correct etiquette for posting on mailing lists *explicitly* while signing up by perhaps by giving a small description of what the subscriber can post on the mailing list? While it's easy to simply hit 'Delete' or look the other way at such queries for help, these attitudes do not align with the right spirit of Open Source and of GNOME as a community. I suggest we take a few proactive measures to minimize occurrence of such e</pre> Sindhu S 2013-05-23T18:27:02 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9248 <pre>Hello everyone, Can anyone help me with this? I want to know about the default value of current sessions in SMTP I have checked the sendmail.cf file and the parameter maxmessages is not set. I need to know the set value by default. Regards, Julita _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> yrazes 2013-05-23T18:01:35 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9247 <pre> I am mostly happy about: * Keeping the meetings on time and on topic. - In theory meetings could go on forever, but board members have other meetings to attend and one hour slots fits most schedules. Last period we were able to keep most meetings in one hour. On occasions spilling over 5 or 10 minutes. * Creating the Annual Report. It was really unfortunate that we had to create a 2010-2011 report instead of two single ones and it gives the impression of a sloppy Foundation to the foundation members, the advisory board and the wider community. While the 2012 report is late, it is in progress. I also want to take the opportunity to highlight a accomplishment by Joanie, who came up with the very creative resolution to the fact that we had two really good GUADEC bids from teams that had applied several times before to accept both of them, but for different years (and at the same time solving the issue that teams have asked for more time to prepare the conferences). I like these kind of creative so</pre> Andreas Nilsson 2013-05-23T15:59:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9246 <pre>----- Original Message ----- Being on the board would help me identify and help establish more outreach and engagement efforts that are relevant to GNOME. I'm particularly interested in seeing us move ahead on Joanie's idea of the Outreach Program for Professors. Beyond that, I'm interested in identifying some other way I can help the GNOME project and community thrive, which would inform my work outside the board. I would have 5-10 hours a week for my work on the board. Thanks, Marina </pre> Marina Zhurakhinskaya 2013-05-23T05:25:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9245 <pre>----- Original Message ----- I think I'd be a good board member because I have * willingness to reach out to people - both newcomers and people in the wider Free Software / technology community * insight into the design and development process of GNOME * attention to detail * ability to come up with new solutions, plan things out, and follow through Thank you, Marina </pre> Marina Zhurakhinskaya 2013-05-23T05:08:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9244 <pre> ----- Original Message ----- Two possible ideas are to 1) Have highlights on the top of the Foundation meeting minutes. 1-3 items everyone in the Foundation should know about - whether because help is needed in completing them or because they got completed. 2) Have the board members take turns in writing a monthly blog post in their own blog about the happenings on the board, from their perspective. This will give people an interesting first-hand insight and place it in front of their eyes on Planet GNOME. This is similar to how we learn about what happened at hackfests or what the interns have been up to. There should also be a wiki page where the posts' authors will be responsible to add links to their reports. A schedule of who is responsible for the blog post each month should be created in the beginning of the board year. Thanks, Marina _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> Marina Zhurakhinskaya 2013-05-23T04:59:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9243 <pre> I do not think that there is much overlap between the work I already do in the community[1] and the board, so it would be fair to say that I do not think that being on the board would enhance it. The GNOME project has goals that are common to all areas of the community, so I see the board work as complementing my existing involvement. How many hours per week do you expect you will be able to dedicate to Based on my conversations with current and past board members, I anticipate that I would need to dedicate a couple of hours per day to board work. I expect the workload to vary somewhat throughout the year and, because I have flexible working arrangements, I am able to spend considerably more time than that on board work when it is needed. [1] Documentation team, travel committee and Outreach Program for Women _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> Ekaterina Gerasimova 2013-05-22T17:41:49 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9242 <pre>Hi Allan On 21 May 2013 11:12, Allan Day &lt;allanpday&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: Besides the obvious necessities of time and commitment, I realise that a large part of the board work is not particularly glamorous yet is essential to the continued existence of the Foundation and the community which it supports. As you probably noticed, I did not put myself down for any specific role when I sent in my candidacy. I think that I would be well suited to take on the role of treasurer from Shaun, who has been doing an excellent job, as I have experience in the area through my current and previous work. In my candidacy statement, I listed some specifics, such as improving the events workflow, and I think that a position on the board would allow me to achieve this effectively. Kat _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> Ekaterina Gerasimova 2013-05-22T17:41:33 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9241 <pre>Forgot the links: [1] https://vote.gnome.org/2012/rules.html [2] https://vote.gnome.org/2013/rules.html 2013/5/22 Andrea Veri &lt;av&lt; at &gt;gnome.org&gt; </pre> Andrea Veri 2013-05-22T15:31:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9240 <pre>Dear Foundation Members, I am glad to announce the following list of candidates for the Board of Directors: * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Ekaterina Gerasimova * Sriram Ramkrishna * Andreas Nilsson * Emmanuele Bassi * Joanmarie Diggs * Max Huang * Tobias Mueller Please see &lt;http://vote.gnome.org/2013/candidates.html&gt; for details. You are invited to ask the candidates questions by sending them to foundation-list. But please try to avoid duplicates and bear in mind, that the candidates invest a lot of time answering questions, thus please be reasonable with the amount and scope of the questions. You might want to send your question to membership-committee&lt; at &gt;gnome.org instead, so that we can collect, sift and sort the questions before we send them out shortly after the ballots were sent. But again: if you feel the need to ask your question directly, please do so. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask them at membership-committee&lt; at &gt;gnome.org or elections&lt; at &gt;gnome.org. </pre> Andrea Veri 2013-05-22T15:30:27 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9239 <pre>2013/5/22 Joanmarie Diggs &lt;jdiggs&lt; at &gt;igalia.com&gt; Yearly the GNOME Foundation Membership Committee has a meeting to decide when and how the elections should take place. It seems that both on the past [1] and the current year [2] the timeline for proposing candidacies was 13 days. Apparently on 2012 the Board didn't coordinate with the committee and decided to send out the announcement earlier on the 17th of April. While I agree we should send out the announcement a bit earlier the next year (maybe moving the "Announcements and list of candidates opens" to April?) I feel there's no real reason to postpone the last date for proposing new candidacies given the fact that no one expressed an interest in sending out a candidacy after the 20th of May neither publicly or privately to me or to any other member of the membership committee. 13 days is a good amount of time for thinking deeply about running or not and for writing a little sum up of what the candidate has achieved in term of contributions during the past m</pre> Andrea Veri 2013-05-22T15:30:08 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9238 <pre>Hi, Sri! Thank you :) I am always on the look out to fix a bug ;) So am pretty much put with GNOME for a long time from now :) Thank you for the support and good words, I hope to pass this on if I were given a change to mentor anybody in the upcoming rounds. -Sindhu On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna &lt;sri&lt; at &gt;ramkrishna.me&gt;wrote: _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list </pre> Sindhu S 2013-05-22T15:24:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9237 <pre> This is, for me at least, a tough question to answer. I see the primary role of the Board being to facilitate the ability of Foundation members to achieve great things for GNOME; not to achieve those great things itself. In other words, Board work is not exciting and noteworthy as much as it is necessary. It's the day-to-day administrative stuff that organizations such as ours need to do. I take pride in that work, as I do all my work, and I always strive for excellence. But as a Board member, I feel that I'm "just doing my job." And doing that job well is an expectation to be held; not an accomplishment to be achieved. Mind you, I didn't feel that way last year when I first ran for the Board. In retrospect, I was filled with that conviction of being able to change the world one tends to find in candidates for new roles. In fact, you may recall a very lengthy proposal I wrote in response to one of Richard's questions for candidates [1]. Back then I saw this as a concrete accomplishment to achieve as a Boa</pre> Joanmarie Diggs 2013-05-22T14:42:43 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9236 <pre>Ahoi! On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 06:36:29AM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: I thought about that, too, and I came to the conclusion that I don't think it will be worth it. Unless you have more information than I do. I am not aware of anyone not being able to announce their candidacy. And the whole election procedure is hairy enough so that I'd like to not mess around with that at this stage. FWIW: The schedule we tried to use last year is pretty much the same as this year's: https://vote.gnome.org/2012/rules.html Cheers, Tobi </pre> Tobias Mueller 2013-05-22T11:06:07 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general/9235 <pre> True, but the announcement period this time was shorter. In 2012, the announcement went out 17 April with a deadline of 20 May. [1] This time, the announcement went out 6 May with a deadline of 19 May. [2] Given Richard's observation that we have a lack of choice combined with the shorter announcement period, I wonder if it would be worth extending the call for candidates for, say, another week. Take care. --joanie [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-April/msg00015.html [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-May/msg00032.html </pre> Joanmarie Diggs 2013-05-22T10:36:29 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general