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Re: Open Files on Remote Server (intranet)

Gamaliel Rendón Gómez — 2011-12-20T15:39:37

Thank you again, i'll check that out...

El 19 de diciembre de 2011 19:41, D Bera <dbera.web< at >gmail.com> escribió:

Re: Open Files on Remote Server (intranet)

D Bera — 2011-12-20T01:41:55

It is currently not implemented since ... we didnt know how to
'correctly' allow remote downloading of files. People have tried some
things on their own in past. There is this thread from 2008 which may
contain some pointers.

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dashboard-hackers/2008-July/msg00036.html

- dBera

Open Files on Remote Server (intranet)

Gamaliel Rendón Gómez — 2011-12-14T00:13:50

Hello all users:

I'm really new to beagle search. I have installed it on a ubuntu server and
it's working fine, I want to use the web interface, it works locally, but
when I try to access from a another client across the intranet it doesn't
open any files.

Example:
on my linux server:
http://localhost:4000/
I do a search and results in this:
file:///mydisk/myfile.pdf
I clik on it and opens the file correctly!!! great.

but

On my PC
http://10.0.200.210:4000
(file:///mydisk/myfile.pdf)
(I clic on any link and can't open the file because it's looking for it
locally on my pc)

Is there a way to achive this?

I will appreaciate your help very much

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

DZ — 2011-02-22T16:30:56

"If option -m is given, recollindex is started for real time
monitoring, using the file system monitoring package it was configured
for (either fam, gamin, or inotify)." (from 'man recollindex')


I use recoll to index IMAP emails downloaded with kmail, and it is
likely to work with evolution just the same. It works very well and
indexes not only email text but also documents attached to emails
(e.g. content of PDF attachments).

I do miss beagle but I stopped using it a few months ago because it
would always stop returning any search results at some random point
until I remove its database and reindex.

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Arun Raghavan — 2011-02-18T05:01:33

Speaking of runnable, I've pushed a couple of build/crasher patches
that were in Bugzilla that Pacho's been shipping in Gentoo.

Cheers,

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joe Shaw — 2011-02-15T00:25:22

Haha, that one was not me. :)

Joe

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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joel Mandell — 2011-02-14T22:10:59

Allright, thanks for the pointer!

I really like this codesnippet in Evolution.cs:

 "

foreach (string shit in crap)
folder_path = folder_path.Replace (shit, "");

"

:=)

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Joe Shaw <joe< at >joeshaw.org> wrote:

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joe Shaw — 2011-02-14T21:50:16

Hi,

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Joel Mandell <joelmandell< at >gmail.com> wrote:

You can send patches to the list.  I think I wrote the Evolution stuff
back in the day, so I might be able to remember some of the details.
:)

At this point there's nobody really maintaining it, and the current
Evo stuff is old and broken so as long as you've tested it and feel
good about the code, go ahead and push it AFAIAC.

Thanks,
Joe

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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joel Mandell — 2011-02-14T21:45:07

I have always been following this project, and it meant so much for me cause
my desktop usually are a mess organization-wise.

BTW Wasn't it you lukas that made the "Holmes"-gui?

Would love to eventually fix the Evolution filter in Util/Evolution.cs. I
can send patches to dbera right?

peace!
-joel m aka dikatlon

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Lukas Lipka <lukaslipka< at >gmail.com> wrote:

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Lukas Lipka — 2011-02-14T14:25:38

I don't mean to sound nostalgic, but back then Beagle was one of the
best and fun projects to hack on!

L.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joe Shaw <joe< at >joeshaw.org> wrote:

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joe Shaw — 2011-02-14T13:26:48

Hi Adam,

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
<awilliam< at >whitemice.org> wrote:

Indeed.  Writing a Mono application at the time was a... challenge.
Beagle surely had its own set of performance problems, and the tools
to profile and debug them were largely non-existent.  We even wrote a
few of them (heap-buddy, which has only recently been superseded by a
new built-in profiler).  I would have killed for a working debugger.
:)

When Beagle was started, the concept was actually pretty clear to us.
We weren't looking to create a Spotlight for Linux (indeed, Beagle was
first publicly demoed on the day Apple announced Spotlight) -- it was
really designed as a means to an end: Dashboard needed an index to
make intelligent queries against and get contextual clues.  Beagle
really grew out of that need, and became a user-centric tool.

Joe
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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

guido iodice — 2011-02-14T12:06:55

2011/2/14 Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam< at >whitemice.org>:



I'm not in agree. Banshee is only a bit better tha Rhythmbox. RB with
some plugins is pretty feature-pair with Banshee.
About f-spot, it is true that Shotwell is a less mature software, but
it is *faster*.




Who are zealots? Are they the GNU project that releases GNU Emacs for
Windows, Mac, AIX, Solaris, Ultrix and even MS DOS?
Actually, labels like "zealot", "extremist" and so on, applied to some
people, are obsolete.
On the other hand, I know a zealot: he still loves Silverlight while
Microsoft loves html5/js/css3 now.

The point is different: really, I don't see any "warm" around mono.
This is simply because there is not a mono killer application. Beagle
could be it, because it was very much better that free and non-free
alternatives. The distance between Banshee and RB is short, the
distance between Beagle and alternatives was very long.

Mono is great as framework, I know. But today I can have a very good
desktop without it, if I want. But I c

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Adam Tauno Williams — 2011-02-14T11:48:30

I think the server space for indexing is already owned by Lucene.  That
is what most admins I talk to use on the server side.  I haven't dipped
by toes in that water yet. For non-text you have Solr
<http://lucene.apache.org/solr/>


It certainly seems possible.  I toyed with the idea once, but I don't
think you'd hit any kind of critical mass [and, personally, my time is
already consumed by other cool projects].

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Adam Tauno Williams — 2011-02-14T11:36:22

On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 17:55 -0500, Joe Shaw wrote: 

+1 

F-Spot did recently get kicked-to-the-curb as default-photo-editor; and
by a less powerful and less mature alternative.  

Both F-Spot and Banshee are absolutely top-notch applications.  Don't
forget Tomboy as well, which seems to be surviving.


Time is also probably a factor, Beagle was AFAIK really the first
desktop Mono application of any note.  It was also ahead of its time as
a concept [I recall no shortage of long rambling posts about how it was
useless anyway].


They are proprietary platforms - so the zealots probably aren't as into
'defending' them.


And very useful.

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Roger Lainson — 2011-02-13T23:35:00

I've been using Beagle for a couple of years in a rather different way, 
which I guess is essentially GNOME-free. That is, I've been using 
beagled running on our small company server, with a couple of home-grown 
PHP pages to invoke beagle-query and parse its output. Works very well 
indeed, with a low server load - the point about beagled having the 
kernel tell it when a file is modified is a very important one, I think.

Unfortunately I can feel the cold breeze of Beagle's demise. Can anyone 
suggest an alternative for my purposes? Better still, would it be 
feasible to hive off beagled (and perhaps the web interface) as a 
*server-oriented* utility, for which there might be a significant 
demand? I came to Linux server (actually Ubuntu) to get away from 
Windows, and beagled was the best replacement I could find to MS indexer 
which plods away in the background - I can't be the only small system 
admin to want to do this! Unfortunately I'm a tinkerer, not a developer.

Cheers, Roger Lainson

Joe Shaw wr

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joe Shaw — 2011-02-13T22:55:07

Hi,

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 4:44 PM, guido iodice <guido.iodice< at >gmail.com> wrote:

I can't really blame them.  The GNOME landscape is (or at least, was)
*so hostile* toward Mono apps that I am surprised that Banshee or
F-Spot survived, frankly.  A major reason why I gave up on Beagle and
the whole Linux desktop itself was due to this attitude.  I guess the
developers of those apps are more thick skinned or resilient than I
was?  I don't know.

On the other hand, Mono on iOS, Android, etc. have all been warmly
welcomed by the communities that adopt them -- and they have much
larger user bases to boot.  Why wouldn't they target them?


Thanks.  It was a lot of fun to work on over the years.

Joe

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

guido iodice — 2011-02-13T21:44:51

Recoll is good, but is different from Tracker and Beagle and it does't
fit with GNOME desktop very good.

On the other hand, tracker 0.8 and 0.9 are pretty usable. I use it on
a PC and works well, also if Beagle was far better.

It is very sad that mono folks are so committed with applications like
f-spot or banshee, that have many good alternatives, or on mono-mac,
mono-iOS, mono-android mono-whatyouwant, while Beagle died.

In the past I appreciate beaglefs that could be the first step of a
next generation database-based filesystem. Now I use mono to cut my
photos.

Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Brian J. Murrell — 2011-02-13T03:58:44

Hey Ron,


Whether Betamax won or lost the dominant video format war is really
quite orthogonal to whether it was better or not.  I don't honestly know
if it was better or not myself.  I constantly hear it was
technologically superior, but I was too young when that war was being
waged to have any firsthand experience.


Sure.  But the point I was arguing was based on Recoll's technical
merits, not whether it is or isn't more popular or should or shouldn't
be.


That may all be true, but it's still inferior (IMHO) to Beagle in the
category of instantly indexing and being friendly to the disk (and the
user).

b.

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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Ronald Liebman — 2011-02-12T22:12:06

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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Brian J. Murrell — 2011-02-12T21:09:22

On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 18:02 +0100, Jérôme wrote: 

I don't want to start a holy war, but no it's not.  It doesn't index
instantly for one thing and it hammers the disk with periodic (i.e. from
cron) scans of entire filesystems just in case there is a change in one
or two files that need re-indexing.

Beagle would have the kernel tell it when a file was modified and
therefor only operated on files that were actually changed, when they
were changed, providing instantaneous search match results.


Right.  This is better than beagle?


Or you could just do what Beagle did and get notifications of files that
were changed and have the best of both worlds.


How about evolution?  Does it do that?  I don't think it does.

Seriously, from what I have read about Recoll, it doesn't even compare
to Beagle.

b.


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Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Jérôme — 2011-02-12T17:02:21

Le vendredi 11 février 2011 à 13:28 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :

Recoll is a really better alternative remplacement of beagle. You can
index only with a cron or manually (like "locate"), so you don't waste
disk i/o

Also, Recoll index djvu documents (the best for scan archives, up to 10x
lighter than PDF scans), tracker not.