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    <title>DIA UML seems to targeting at C++, rather than Java.</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7240</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi, all:

1) Just start using DIA. It seems DIA only targets at C++, rather than Java.
On the one hand, in the DIA UML, there is no type "interface" for Java.
On the other hand, as for the tool dia2code, it's supposed to be able to
produce Java code.
My question: without a model of "interface" in DIA, how is dia2code able to
produce a Java interface?

2) Is there any possibility that DIA take "interface" into its
consideration?
Or, is there a substitute way for DIA to deal with the concept "interface"?


Cheers
Pei




&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>JIA Pei</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-25T01:52:13</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7239">
    <title>Re: creating and populating sheets</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7239</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi John,

sorry for the late reply.

On 05/18/2012 06:02 PM, John Bollenbacher wrote:
I've just added an explanation how to create new sheets to the "new 
shape howto":

http://dia-installer.de/howto/create_shape/index.html.en#create_sheet

Adding shapes to sheets is also explained in the document:

http://dia-installer.de/howto/create_shape/index.html.en#add_shape_to_sheet

Hope this helps, if this doesn't solve your problem, could you provide a 
little bit more detail?

Regards,

Steffen
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steffen Macke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T21:33:39</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7238">
    <title>creating and populating sheets</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7238</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I understand how to create new shapes and how to move shapes between existing 
sheets.  However, I can't see how to create a new sheet or place a new shape 
into an existing sheet.  Can anyone help?&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>John Bollenbacher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-18T16:02:18</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7237">
    <title>Re: dia-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 11</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7237</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;2. Re: Dia for programming (Hans Breuer)

goto instruction.
Logical flow always stays the same (usually) but the syntax changes
depending on chip used, hence a specific language setup is not really
suited for me as I use quite a few different chips.

Generally only use about 4 different shapes.

Just reading up on custom shapes, that may do the trick.

Will report back

KP
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>k p</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-14T03:11:20</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7236">
    <title>Fw: Dia for programming</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7236</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;kp

If I understand you correctly, a possible (alternative) solution may be to use ext-attributes to store the code.

http://dia-installer.de/doc/en/custom-shapes-chapter.html#N41016

Caveat: not sure whether "programatically access" includes Python scripting.

An additional benefit would be that you can double-click on the object to edit the code.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Breuer &amp;lt;hans&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;breuer.org&amp;gt;
Sender: dia-list-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnome.orgDate: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:38:29 
To: &amp;lt;dia-list&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnome.org&amp;gt;
Reply-To: discussions about usage and development of dia &amp;lt;dia-list&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnome.org&amp;gt;
Subject: Re: Dia for programming

At 09.05.2012 09:36, k p wrote:
I dont quite get the model you have in mind, but it is certainly possible 
to do diagram to source code transformations with PyDia. See for example:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/tree/plug-ins/python/codegen.py

Like in a text editor? And you want to overlay the source code with the
diagram?

A Dia Python plug-in can listen on object creation and removal. But it can 
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>jrycman&lt; at &gt;gmail.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-12T00:24:56</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7235">
    <title>Fw: Custom Shape &lt;default-height&gt; is not honored</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7235</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks Hans.

I discovered that after I sent the mail :-)
------Original Message------
From: Hans Breuer
Sender: dia-list-bounces&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnome.org
To: dia-list&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gnome.org
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Subject: Re: Custom Shape &amp;lt;default-height&amp;gt; is not honored
Sent: May 11, 2012 18:08

At 10.05.2012 19:58, James R wrote:
I guess you are expecting the size of the rectangle alone to be
like the the default size? If so you should not select resize="yes"
for the textbox, which adjust the shape size with the textbox included.
Using resize="no" should do the trick.

-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org -----------
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get along without it.                -- Dilbert
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&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>1t1is2&lt; at &gt;gmail.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-12T00:11:11</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7234">
    <title>Re: Dia for programming</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7234</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I dont quite get the model you have in mind, but it is certainly possible 
to do diagram to source code transformations with PyDia. See for example:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/tree/plug-ins/python/codegen.py

Like in a text editor? And you want to overlay the source code with the
diagram?

A Dia Python plug-in can listen on object creation and removal. But it can 
not listen on any "logical flow change".

Now you have finally lost me ;)



-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org -----------
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to
get along without it.                -- Dilbert
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hans Breuer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T22:38:29</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7233">
    <title>Re: Custom Shape &lt;default-height&gt; is not honored</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7233</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I guess you are expecting the size of the rectangle alone to be
like the the default size? If so you should not select resize="yes"
for the textbox, which adjust the shape size with the textbox included.
Using resize="no" should do the trick.

-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org -----------
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to
get along without it.                -- Dilbert
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hans Breuer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T22:08:58</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7232">
    <title>Re: Dia to SQL conversion</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7232</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Dňa Thu, 10 May 2012 21:59:07 +0200 Steffen Macke &amp;lt;dia&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;diagramr.biz&amp;gt;
napísal:


no problem :-)


done: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=77115

perhaps i properly described the problem.

regards and thanks

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Slavko</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T20:34:21</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7231">
    <title>Re: Dia to SQL conversion</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7231</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Slavko,

On 05/10/2012 09:32 PM, Slavko wrote:
Sorry that I got you wrong here. The parsediasql code seems to be older 
here than sqlite's support
for foreign keys.

Consider adding a bug/report feature request on CPAN

https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Parse-Dia-SQL

or contact the Parse::Dia::SQL developers (unless they're already 
following things here on the list).

As the new syntax is much closer to how other databases handle foreign 
keys, it should not be much of an issue to change the syntax.

Regards,

Steffen
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steffen Macke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T19:59:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7230">
    <title>Re: Dia to SQL conversion</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7230</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

Dňa Thu, 10 May 2012 21:08:33 +0200 Steffen Macke &amp;lt;dia&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;diagramr.biz&amp;gt;
napísal:


no problem ;-)


the same version here


Perhaps i wrote my previous mail in wrong manner, i am sorry, my english
is poor.

The parsediasql produces the triggers for foreign keys in sqlite3 for me,
but i expect the constraint definition, for example:

CREATE TABLE table_name(
  some_id    INTEGER, 
  some_other INTEGER,
  FOREIGN KEY(some_other) REFERENCES another_table(another_id)
);

or the same by other way:

CREATE TABLE table_name(
  some_id    INTEGER, 
  some_other REFERENCES another_table(another_id)
  
);

as described here http://sqlite.org/foreignkeys.html

I tried parse my SQL model to some other DB types - i forgot which,
because i did many tries in last days :-) And for these not SQLite3 types
i got SQL with direct foreign keys definitions (without triggers). Then IMO
the SQLite sopport for foreign keys in parsediasql is poor (outdated?). I
do not tried if this triggers are working yet, but i think that it wi&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Slavko</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T19:32:02</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7229">
    <title>Re: Dia to SQL conversion</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7229</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Slavko,

sorry for the late reply.

On 04/30/2012 09:53 PM, Slavko wrote:
I just tested

parsediasql --file long_fk_name.dia --db sqlite3

successfully (Parse-Dia-Sql version 0.20).
So I guess it's just a matter of using the UML association a little bit 
differently.

Regards,

Steffen
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steffen Macke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T19:08:33</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>Custom Shape &lt;default-height&gt; is not honored</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7228</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I have two custom shapes with a rectangle with a textbox.
In the 1st shape, the textbox is sized to match the svg:rect.
In the 2ns shape, the textbox is below the svg:rec.

The 1st shape renders correctly by default - 3x1.
The 2nd shape does not - it renders 3x2.5.

I've tried various combinations default-width, default-height, viewbox,
changing the dimensions, etc.
All without success.

Any help would be appreciated.
go2null

&amp;lt;?xml version="1.0"?&amp;gt;
&amp;lt;shape xmlns="http://www.daa.com.au/~james/dia-shape-ns" xmlns:svg="
http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;name&amp;gt;Rectangle - Text Inside&amp;lt;/name&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;icon&amp;gt;go2null_Rectangle_TextInside.png&amp;lt;/icon&amp;gt;

  &amp;lt;aspectratio type="free"/&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;default-width&amp;gt;3cm&amp;lt;/default-width&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;default-height&amp;gt;1cm&amp;lt;/default-height&amp;gt;

  &amp;lt;svg:svg width="3cm" height="1cm" viewBox="0 0 3 1"&amp;gt;
    &amp;lt;svg:rect style="fill:#cccccc; stroke:foreground; stroke-width:.1"
x="0" y="0" width="30" height="10"/&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;/svg:svg&amp;gt;
  &amp;lt;textbox x1="0" y1="0" x2="30" y2="10" align="center" resize="yes"/&amp;gt;

  &amp;lt;connections&amp;gt;
    &amp;lt;point x="&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>James R</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-10T17:58:16</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7227">
    <title>Re: UML Code Generator for PHP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7227</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello Steffen,

Thank you for accepting my contribution.

Kind Regards,

Steven Garcia

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Steffen Macke &amp;lt;dia&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;diagramr.biz&amp;gt; wrote:

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steven Garcia</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-09T13:58:12</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7226">
    <title>Dia for programming</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7226</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I use DIA mainly for my programming, which is mainly in assembler.

I just wonder if the following would be possible by using Python in DIA ?

I would like to have it, so, there are essentially 2 identical layers, with
one layer being the pseudo description (and flow diagram) and a second
layer being where I enter the source code.
I would then generate the complete source code from the source layer.

Any logical flow change would result in a change the source layer.
My current thoughts are that with every shape added, it will automatically
add one on each layer and then I would just need a way to click on each
shape to send it to the background.
A menu button to send all pseudo or source layers to the for/background
could be done a well.

Like everyone else, it always problematic to maintain both documentation
and source when they are in more than one place.

I'm NOT looking for a reverse operation, where you can enter the source and
it will generate a flow diagram !

Any comments ?
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>k p</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-09T07:36:49</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Dia in swedish</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7225</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I finally succeed in launching self-compiled version, by make-cleaning
and prefixing with /tmp instead of ~/paquets/dia_bin. I don't really why
it doesn't work before, but that's fine now.

I join my fr.po, but it could be great if some french-speaking people
could have a look before integrating it to the repository. If not i will
try to self check and finish the remaining strings (29 to be translated,
96 to be revised) in the coming weeks.


Yes, that's why i would only accept to do a make install with a prefix
on my system :)

This could be very practical in the future. But it seems there are few
interface changes between the 0.97.2-8 packaged in Debian and the
current repository. So for the first, having the real current version
helped me to understand why some strings where missing in the .po file.

Yes, Dia and a lot of others.

I note that. Unfortunately i currently have just enough free disk-space
to compile Dia !


Manu
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>manuk7</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-08T20:54:27</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7224">
    <title>Re: UML Code Generator for PHP</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7224</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Greetings, Steven,

On 05/06/2012 07:02 AM, Steven Garcia wrote:
The patch looks good to me. I've pushed it to git master:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/commit/?id=31260b8420948700485832750ee0da7755dcab2d

Thanks for contributing to Dia!

Regards,

Steffen
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steffen Macke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-08T20:53:24</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7223">
    <title>Re: Dia in swedish</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7223</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;An easier way is to do a parallel install into a different prefix, e.g.
./configure --prefix=/home/user/testdia
IIRC the target directory needs to exist.

HTH,
Hans

-------- Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org -----------
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to
get along without it.                -- Dilbert
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hans Breuer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-08T20:26:37</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7222">
    <title>Re: Dia in swedish</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7222</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Manu,

thanks for getting involved with the Dia translations!

On 05/08/2012 09:36 PM, manuk7 wrote:

The easiest way to do that would be a "make install". Be careful because 
you might mess up your
existing stable dia installation.
If you don't mind, "make uninstall" and a reinstallation of the original 
package will bring you back to where you started.
Alternatively, you could only copy the binary translation file over the 
existing installation (if you have a localized one, which I doubt, 
because you see Dia in English - configuration prefixes may add some 
complexity here, but I'm not sure).
Do other software packages (or even better: an existing Dia 
installation) on  your system use the French locale?

In case you're able to run a VM in VMWare Workstation 8 format, you 
could try the one from

http://dia-installer.de/developer/index.html

There you'll be able to run "make install" without messing anything up 
(besides the VM).

Regards,

Steffen
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Steffen Macke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-08T20:16:43</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7221">
    <title>Re: Dia in swedish</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia/7221</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Well, editing the po file isn't really difficult (i'm using poedit).
However, i add to do some stuff before being able to make translations:
- get all dependancies required to build Dia
- run autogen.sh (which calls 'configure')
- generate new .pot : make po/dia.pot
- merge old translations with new translations: msgmerge fr.po dia.pot &amp;gt;
fr.po.new // OR, use poedit equivalent function


Then starts translation :)
I hope this way is right and could help future translators.


However i got a question: i'd like to check my translation in Dia before
to send it. So i compiled Dia, installed it locally (in my home), but
when running it with ./app/run_dia.sh , Dia isn't localised (everything
is in english). Same thing when passing before LANG=fr_FR.UTF8.
Did i do something wrong ? or how may i check my translations ?


Ok, this could be interesting too, i will maybe have a look on that later.


Manu


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an updated Dia Development VM is available from

http://dia-installer.de/developer/index.html

The VM now uses Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and the VMWare Workstation 
8 format. It also comes with autodia and dia2code installed. The 
download size is approx. 46% smaller than the previous version (only 1.5 
GB).

This new version also has Python support enabled.

Regards,

Steffen
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