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    <title>0launch 0.36</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2205</link>
    <description>A new release of Zero Install (0.36) is now available:

 http://0install.net/injector.html

Changes since 0.35:

Note that although some changes have been made to better support
Windows, this is untested. We are still looking for volunteers to test
and debug it on Windows.

- Update the display less frequently while downloading Debian bug
  #497569 says downloading uses 100% CPU (Simon Wenner). Not sure if
  this is the reason, but we're probably updating the display too
  frequently anyway.

- Reject URIs without a path component (e.g. http://host).

- Don't assume an RPM-based distribution just because /var/lib/rpm
  exists. Actually check for the /var/lib/rpm/Packages file instead
  (reported by Demetrio Girardi).

- Reject obvious attempts to drag archives to 0desktop. People keep
  trying to drag .exe, .tar.bz2, etc archives to 0desktop. Reject URLs
  ending in these strings with a more helpful error message (rather than
  downloading them and complaining that it's not XML).

- Record architecture for D</description>
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    <dc:date>2008-09-06T11:53:52</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: News keys for crystalspace3d.org</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2204</link>
    <description>
Yes. I won't use the other (first) "feed key" any more (well, I can't - 
I forgot the passphrase. Shame on me, I know). I'll sign it with my 
"personal" key.

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    <title>CPU load when downloading</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2203</link>
    <description>Is anyone experiencing high CPU load when downloading things, as in
this bug report?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497569

I've made a couple of changes to try and make it faster:

http://repo.or.cz/w/zeroinstall.git

(please check that it still works!)


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    <title>News keys for crystalspace3d.org</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2202</link>
    <description>Hi Frank,

The feeds on crystalspace3d.org have changed their GPG key to:

517085B7261D3B03A97515319C2C2CD1D41AF5BB

Is this your new key? It's not signed by either of the previous two...

Thanks,


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-04T17:48:49</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: 0publish-gui-0.9 error when signing feed</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2201</link>
    <description>2008/9/4 Lennon Cook &lt;lennon&lt; at &gt;riscque.net&gt;:

Oops. Does this fix it?

http://repo.or.cz/w/0publish-gui.git?a=commit;h=44cf520f1fafb3e71efc275ffa35968608377e39


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-04T15:30:58</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: 0launch fails,RPM database and implementations missing (?)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2200</link>
    <description>2008/9/4 Demetrio Girardi &lt;dgirardi&lt; at &gt;niksula.hut.fi&gt;:

/var/lib/rpm exists (so it thinks this is an RPM-based distribution),
but /var/lib/rpm/Packages doesn't, which produces the warning.

I've changed the code to check for /var/lib/rpm/Packages:

  http://repo.or.cz/w/zeroinstall.git?a=commit;h=ef30b8b495357a8bd370f653ac80136e5938c826

Apart from that, the reason it doesn't work is that there is no
FreeBSD binary in the LyX feed. If FreeBSD can run Linux binaries, try
uncommenting the Linux line in arch.py's os_ranks:

os_ranks = {
'Linux' : 3,# Linux (lots of systems support emulation)
None : 2,# Any OS
_uname[0] : 1,# Current OS
}

Let us know if it works...


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
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Maybe that should better read 'os.environ.has_key("GPG_AGENT_INFO") and 
  os.environ["GPG_AGENT_INFO"]' then ...

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    <title>0publish-gui-0.9 error when signing feed</title>
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    <title>0launch fails,RPM database and implementations missing (?)</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2197</link>
    <description>Hello,

0lauching the lyx feed fails, giving a warning about a missing 
/var/lib/rpm/Packages file, and saying that there are no implementations 
for the feed. Is this a problem of the feed, or of RPM? the latter is 
installed on this (freebsd) machine but I don't know how it is 
configured and I don't have root access.
Attached is the verbose output. How should I proceed? thanks in advance.

[dgirardi&lt; at &gt;kaneli /var/lib/rpm]$ 0launch -cv 
http://0install.net/2007/3rd-party/LyX.xml
INFO:root:Running 0launch 0.35 
['http://0install.net/2007/3rd-party/LyX.xml']; Python 2.4.3 (#2, Oct 19 
2006, 13:34:46)
[GCC 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305]
INFO:root:Interface &lt;Interface 
http://0install.net/2007/3rd-party/LyX.xml&gt; has no implementations!
INFO:root:Scheduling new task: solve_with_downloads
INFO:root:Scheduling new task: quitter
INFO:root:Interface &lt;Interface 
http://0install.net/2007/3rd-party/LyX.xml&gt; has no implementations!
INFO:root:Scheduling new task: download 
http://0install.net/2007/3rd-party/LyX.xml
INFO:root:S</description>
    <dc:creator>Demetrio Girardi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-04T10:44:59</dc:date>
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    <title>Proposal for a "never seen" system based on Zero Install with Web 2.0 approach</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2196</link>
    <description>I want to propose here a system I've envisioned, where Zero Install would  
be perfect as a core.
As system I mean something that could be an application normally loadable  
in the preferred platform (Linux, Windows, Mac, etc.), integrated with a  
web service, but for simplicity let's think at it like a Linux distro, and  
for more simplicity let's think at it as a live one.

So, I load this live distro, and it asks for some user/password to connect  
to the companion web service, or offers the possibility to "register". The  
companion web service is essentially a database storing some infos: urls  
of apps, names, descriptions, stars, hearts, etc.

Let's say I already have my account, so I type my credentials and here we  
go: my custom "desktop" is built on the fly with informations retrieved  
 from the web service. Let's say I've not marked any app as "visible on  
desktop", so my desktop will be like this:

Just a text-input field in the bottom bar, with two buttons: "Search",  
"Run the first one" an</description>
    <dc:creator>Antonio Orlando</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-01T17:06:12</dc:date>
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    <title>Using the architecture field from nativepackages</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2195</link>
    <description>We used to assume that a native package had an arch type of '*' (i.e.
it would always be compatible with everything).

However, on a mixed 32 and 64 bit platform, we can't use a 64-bit
native library with a downloaded 32-bit implementation. I've changed
the code to record the type for x86_64 packages so that they won't be
selected in combination with 32-bit implementations:

http://repo.or.cz/w/zeroinstall.git?a=commit;h=a1980f1fd207d171d480049a1890ffdb0f72ed02

We might need a similar change for RPMs too. Patches welcome...


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-23T11:55:21</dc:date>
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    <title>Downloads page and Windows</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2194</link>
    <description>The downloads page was getting a bit long and complicated. I've split
it into different pages for each platform:

  http://0install.net/injector.html

This gives us some space to put in more detailed instructions,
although currently it's just what was on the main page. Contributions
welcome!

I have, however, tested it on a Windows machine and thus greatly
extended the Windows installation instructions. Still doesn't work,
but if you'd like to help out here are some hints:

  http://0install.net/install-windows.html

There seem to be some odd problems with file descriptors, backslashes,
and DOS line-endings. The usual suspects. Help welcome!


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-20T18:36:24</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Distribution integration / OpenGLdependency</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2193</link>
    <description>2008/8/19 Frank Richter &lt;frank.richter&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;:

Agreed. There are lots of ways to speed up a 3D app (turn off
transparency, use lower-quality texture mapping, turn off textures,
reduce clipping depth, use models with fewer polygons, use a smaller
screen area, etc).

Though it might be worth splitting up the level data into smaller
chunks that can be downloaded as needed.


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-19T21:03:16</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: FIle associations, icons...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2192</link>
    <description>2008/8/19 Frank Richter &lt;frank.richter&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;:
[...]

How about:

1. Associate *.celzip  -&gt; application/x-zip-celstart
2. Associate *.gnucash -&gt; application/x-zip-celstart
3. Get user to map application/x-zip-celstart -&gt; celstart-launcher
4. Wait for user to open their accounts file
5. Profit!

(this assumes the user was running celstart with limited privs...
probably only to the data file they clicked on)

The real solution to the MIME problem is to store the MIME type with
the file (in the user.mime_type extended attribute). Then you don't
need a mapping from name/content to type. But not many programs use
this yet.

Although sometimes there's an obvious program for a particular type,
in general the MIME guessing rules are independent of any particular
program.

In any case, the MIME mappings file would normally go inside the
package, I think. Other installers would expect it to be there. So it
would be better to store the relative path to the file, rather than
put the contents in the feed.

Thanks!


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-19T21:00:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: FIle associations, icons...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2191</link>
    <description>
Done.


I guess you could argue for and against that - I'll leave that for KDE 
and GNOME people, respectively ;)

Tho in general, I'd think registering a type may not necessarily be 
dangerous - you could perhaps maliciously mask the type of a file via a 
mime mapping - but any automatic association between a file type and a 
program might. However, I don't know what kind of possibilities exist 
for that (and how it could be prevented).


I'll have to check it out, thanks for the pointer.

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    <dc:date>2008-08-19T19:36:07</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: FIle associations, icons...</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2190</link>
    <description>2008/8/14 Frank Richter &lt;frank.richter&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;:

What version is this against? I get:

$ git-apply /tmp/mime-in-feed.diff
/tmp/mime-in-feed.diff:120: trailing whitespace.

/tmp/mime-in-feed.diff:123: trailing whitespace.

error: patch failed: zeroinstall/gtkui/addbox.py:9
error: zeroinstall/gtkui/addbox.py: patch does not apply

If you use 'git format-patch origin' it should put the required info
in the patch (and a log message, credit, etc).

Silently adding stuff to the MIME mappings seems dangerous, though.
There would need to be some kind of checkbox in the GUI ("Allow this
program to update the MIME database" or something).

If possible, you should try to get it in the freedesktop.org main
database as well, though. As long as your type doesn't conflict with
anything (e.g. "*.doc") they'll probably accept it.

Thanks!


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-19T18:55:44</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: 0publish-gui: Remove alternate identies(again), show primary identity</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2189</link>
    <description>2008/8/13 Frank Richter &lt;frank.richter&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt;:

Might be worth uses zeroinstall.injector.gpg.load_keys() here. There
were some performance problems with running gpg for each key, IIRC.


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    <dc:creator>Thomas Leonard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-08-19T18:40:48</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: Distribution integration / OpenGLdependency</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2188</link>
    <description>
Well, I didn't see any way to hook custom commands in anywhere ... I 
guess one way would be to create a "wrapper feed": a really simple 
program that poses as the application you want. When launched, it does a 
system check or whatever and continues to launch the real app (e.g. by 
calling 0launch again) when the requirements are met. (Personally, I 
would find it a bit harsh to reject launching when the requirements are 
not met; rather, I would inform the user that given the current system 
the app may not run that well but leave it a possibility to continue.)

Hoped to help,
-f.r.

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    <dc:date>2008-08-18T04:47:14</dc:date>
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    <title>0launch 0.35</title>
    <link>http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2186</link>
    <description>A new release of Zero Install (0.35) is now available:

 http://0install.net/injector.html

Changes since 0.34:


New features:

- Added support for multi-arch  We can choose either x86_64 binaries or
  i[3456]86 binaries, but we can't mix both in a single process. Also
  fixed the sense of the OS and CPU tests so that we now pick the best
  OS and CPU match rather than the worst (oops!).

- Added --cpu and --os arguments to 0launch  This allows you to choose a
  binary for a different host. It's also useful on an x86_64 machine to
  run an x86 binary.


Bug-fixes:

- Don't create .desktop filenames with spaces; xdg-desktop-menu gets
  confused and gives a misleading error message ("does not
  have a proper vendor prefix") if the name contains a space. Reported
  by Thomas Formella.

- Allow file:///path feed URIs. This is equivalent to just using /path. Useful
  for drag-and-drop from Konqueror. Reported by Matt Lawrence.

- Log a useful warning if a user_overrides file gets corrupted.  Don't
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