http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50935 <pre>thanks josh. I have disabled all my scrolling for now, and that took care of all my SC startup problems. jostM On 25.05.12 17:09, Josh Parmenter wrote: _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> jostM 2012-05-25T15:12:56 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50934 <pre>Shoot - I meant to try and debug this. I should have some time today. Josh On May 25, 2012, at 3:40 AM, jostM wrote: ****************************************** /* Joshua D. Parmenter http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/ “Every composer – at all times and in all cases – gives his own interpretation of how modern society is structured: whether actively or passively, consciously or unconsciously, he makes choices in this regard. He may be conservative or he may subject himself to continual renewal; or he may strive for a revolutionary, historical or social palingenesis." - Luigi Nono */ _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Josh Parmenter 2012-05-25T15:09:24 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50933 <pre> I agree, forming a sensible default set is priority. </pre> Jakob Leben 2012-05-25T13:18:10 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50932 <pre>This is almost certainly because of ScrollView. jostM On 18.05.12 01:12, Josh Parmenter wrote: _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> jostM 2012-05-25T10:40:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50931 <pre>Hi - Anyone fancy putting something together for this? Call For Open Source Software Competition http://www.acmmm12.org/call-for-open-source-software-competition/ SuperCollider would fit the remit. Entering the competition involves writing a 4-page paper describing the software... Dan _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Dan Stowell 2012-05-25T10:38:45 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50930 <pre>Thanks! Dan _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Dan Stowell 2012-05-25T09:58:15 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50929 <pre>This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script. It was generated because a ref change was pushed to the repository containing the project "supercollider". The branch, 3.5 has been updated via 06a962956d04cb53059481a7ec4e24de04b8ddaf (commit) from c3471187db047e02880f8a3fa7ae85479953967e (commit) Those revisions listed above that are new to this repository have not appeared on any other notification email; so we list those revisions in full, below. - Log ----------------------------------------------------------------- commit 06a962956d04cb53059481a7ec4e24de04b8ddaf Author: Jonatan Liljedahl &lt;lijon-fwFeWneuYPZWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Date: Fri May 25 11:52:59 2012 +0200 Methods.html: auto-redirect to Search if method not found diff --git a/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html b/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html index 5ae799d..b97acf8 100644 --- a/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html +++ b/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; -231,6 +231,7 &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; function showmethods() {</pre> Jonatan Liljedahl 2012-05-25T09:55:39 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50928 <pre>This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script. It was generated because a ref change was pushed to the repository containing the project "supercollider". The branch, master has been updated via 8f471ec1f61187ef8969eb2860cee288cd27c989 (commit) from ada1d13ca305c857104045a12f015a5cd28eca78 (commit) Those revisions listed above that are new to this repository have not appeared on any other notification email; so we list those revisions in full, below. - Log ----------------------------------------------------------------- commit 8f471ec1f61187ef8969eb2860cee288cd27c989 Author: Jonatan Liljedahl &lt;lijon-fwFeWneuYPZWk0Htik3J/w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Date: Fri May 25 11:52:59 2012 +0200 Methods.html: auto-redirect to Search if method not found diff --git a/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html b/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html index 5ae799d..b97acf8 100644 --- a/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html +++ b/HelpSource/Overviews/Methods.html &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; -231,6 +231,7 &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt; function showmethods(</pre> Jonatan Liljedahl 2012-05-25T09:55:12 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50927 <pre>2012/5/25 Tim Blechmann &lt;tim-xpEK/MU0Hawdnm+yROfE0A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: No problem! A set of defaults for small hands, and a set of defaults for big hands :) If we can get a single *common* standard set of shortcuts this will make it much easier to teach supercollider, and to discuss it online... Dan _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Dan Stowell 2012-05-25T08:39:25 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50926 <pre> well, imho, we should come up with a reasonable default, which works well on most platforms. if the shortcuts are well designed, there is no need to customize a lot ... of course people will be able to, but it would be best, if they would not want to change the defaults ;) that said, i'm not a big fan of using f keys ... on some keyboards they are hard to reach with small hands ... cheers, tim _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Tim Blechmann 2012-05-25T08:34:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50925 <pre> That could be a good solution indeed! And among those templates could be Emacs and Vim-alikes... But that would require extension of customizability beyond the actions found in the menus. </pre> Jakob Leben 2012-05-25T08:16:01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50924 <pre> See the Shortcuts help file in SC. I'm assuming that the IDE would be distributed with some set of keyboard shortcut templates. The standard one for Mac could be the one most compatible with Mac users' existing experience. cheers, Nick </pre> Click Nilson 2012-05-25T07:37:23 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50923 <pre> J&gt; I'd suggest a new thread with a new subject line (please don't J&gt; use "reply," so that threaded views in various email archives J&gt; make sense). Good suggestion. J&gt; This conversation is no longer about scide, so it doesn't belong J&gt; in a thread called "scide." Youre absolutely right. Sorry for the inconvenience. -anders _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> andersvi-qGPxpQZG2hVuMpJDpNschA< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-25T07:34:13 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50922 <pre>2012/5/25 Jakob Leben &lt;jakob.leben-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: I agree. Cmd-D was a second choice anyway because apple stole Cmd-? from us! I don't see much reason to carry it over. F1 is used for help in a lot of systems, though on mac it's less than perfect because you have to press [Fn+F1] which is not an easy one-hand chord. Dan </pre> Dan Stowell 2012-05-25T07:32:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50921 <pre> J&gt; I would say the only strangeness I've noted so far is that the J&gt; old-help buffer is displayed both in a new frame and in a new J&gt; buffer-window in the original frame. I beleive leaving out (switch-to-buffer...) in line 592 in sclang-help should get rid of the extra (original) display. -anders _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> andersvi-qGPxpQZG2hVuMpJDpNschA< at >public.gmane.org 2012-05-25T07:32:11 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50920 <pre>2012/5/25 Lucas Samaruga &lt;samarugalucas-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: Yes that's right. it's not quite true that "most people have them assigned to hardware controls" - the F-key modifier distinguishes between the two. Dan _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Dan Stowell 2012-05-25T07:25:58 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50919 <pre>2012/5/24 Miguel Negrao &lt;miguel.negrao-lists-/wLt9BB+Iy41Tgt60Rntydi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;: but there is the function key to access the f keys in all mac keyboards? _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Lucas Samaruga 2012-05-25T02:25:34 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50918 <pre>At Thu, 24 May 2012 14:39:33 -0700, Julius Smith wrote: I'd suggest a new thread with a new subject line (please don't use "reply," so that threaded views in various email archives make sense). This conversation is no longer about scide, so it doesn't belong in a thread called "scide." hjh -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshark70-n2XjBy9Frl0FLkkUnhLBSV6hYfS7NtTn&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://www.dewdrop-world.net "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> James Harkins 2012-05-25T00:11:31 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50917 <pre> In general, I agree. However, what about the current shortcuts in other IDEs, Emacs, gedit, ...? What about differences in standards between platforms? I would suggest to look up to existing cross-platform software. Nonetheless, it would be useful if someone using SC.app posted a list of all the shortcuts, with notes added to those that are also a standard/consensus specific to all Mac OS X software. At least this will make it possible to compare. </pre> Jakob Leben 2012-05-24T23:41:44 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50916 <pre> cmd+D is what we currently use in SC.app for help. I'd suggest reducing complications for people going to the new IDE by matching shortcuts wherever possible to existing ones... _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Click Nilson 2012-05-24T22:38:00 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel/50915 <pre> That did it - it works! I would say the only strangeness I've noted so far is that the old-help buffer is displayed both in a new frame and in a new buffer-window in the original frame. This is actually fine with me because it is convenient to read it first in the original frame and have it hanging around for later reference in the new frame after I navigate back to my code. I'll report any additional oddities I encounter, if any (testing on Linux only). - jos Julius O. Smith III &lt;jos-l0SEpsmuUtBegcJQxxnBRDe48wsgrGvP&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Prof. of Music and Assoc. Prof. (by courtesy) of Electrical Engineering CCRMA, Stanford University http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/ _______________________________________________ sc-dev mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/ </pre> Julius Smith 2012-05-24T21:39:33 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.audio.supercollider.devel