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Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-25T07:25:08

Nice one Brendan!

Am 24.05.2013 18:22, schrieb Brendan Jones:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Brendan Jones — 2013-05-24T16:22:43

The LV2 stack has been updated and should now be available in Fedora 19.

I've only just pushed it to testing in F18, so it should hit the repos 
over the next day or so.

Brendan

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Janina Sajka — 2013-05-23T20:50:58

Thanks, Joe.

And, yes, I've not communicated directly with Julien previously, but I'm
familiar with his posting on LAU and will ask him about any experience
with recent Ardour.


One step at a time, I guess!

Janina

Joe Hartley writes:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Joe Hartley — 2013-05-23T19:50:59

I don't think Janina would see much of a difference ;)

Janina, you may want to sign onto the Ardour users mailing list at
http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-users-ardour.org

I know that at least in Ardour's earlier incarnations, a lot of thought was
given to a non-visual interface for it. Paul Davis, the primary developer,
would certainly have some ideas on using it that way.

I'm not sure if he's on this list or not, but I know of one Linux
musician on the Linux audio user list at 
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user who faces similar
challenges as you.  I know he was an Ardour user at one time, but may have
moved to Nama for the majority of his work.  Search for Julien Claassen and
you'll find he's a prolific poster there.

Good luck! 

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:17:42 +0200
Simon Lewis <simon.lewis< at >slnet-online.de> wrote:

rt session permissions

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-23T19:48:47

As a prologue, there is tons of advice on the internet for configuring 
audio on linux, but it's like wiki and life in general, 95% rubbish and 
the truth is hidden in the other 5%.

Never-the-less, occasionally a neat little tweak comes along that 
actually works. It would be useful to gather these tweaks in a single 
package that can be cleanly installed, upgraded and removed over the 
package management and where the necessary services are automatically 
stated on booting the system.

Fernando has already started this with "planetccrma-rt-permissions 
<http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/18/x86_64/repoview/planetccrma-rt-permissions.html>. 
I've added a few more and included a corresponding rpm spec file .

I'm just a user and not a programmer and I am sure you know other and 
probably better ways of doing this. But on my two systems it works, it 
is here and is now. At least Quickscan from Brendan Jones' 
"realTimeConfigQuickScan" package gives lots of green ticks.

Any

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-23T19:17:42

Hello Janina

Ardour uses gtk2-engines but has it's own themes and ignores the system 
settings. It not only works, is fun to use and looks good under xfce on 
fc19 and kde on fc17...


With best regards, Simon


Am 23.05.2013 19:45, schrieb Janina Sajka:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Janina Sajka — 2013-05-23T17:45:46

Thank you, Simon. Don't know why I didn't think to look in the spec file
for buildrequires. Now that you point this out, it's such an obvious
place to look.

And, it's good news. At least hopeful news.

Janina

Simon Lewis writes:

Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-22T16:08:11

As per the "BuildRequires" below, Ardour is very much a gtk2-application...

Am 20.05.2013 20:51, schrieb Janina Sajka:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano — 2013-05-21T06:04:32

(sorry, I did not imply any criticism...)


Best, thanks for sharing the spec...

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Janina Sajka — 2013-05-20T18:51:02

Anyone know what toolkit is used to create the Ardour3 UI? Is it GTK2?
Are there many custom widgets?

Just trying to get an advance sense of whether the UI will repurpose to
a nonvisual interface, even partly.


Janina

Simon Lewis writes:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-20T17:35:52

Hi Martin

I had a flash drive for test purposes which was already GPT partitioned 
with:

1 MiB Ext2 for BootBios
256 MiB Ext4 for /boot
17 GiB Ext4 for /
40 GiB Ext for /home

The installation was straight forward, only needing to reformat each 
partition - the only annoyance was that  I didn't have a chance to 
change the localname.localnetwork to something useful.

The installer detected the BootBios partition and installed Grub2 correctly.

There were no additional options for SSD or flash drives. I manually 
added "noatime" and 'discard' to the fstab entries for /,  /boot and 
/home partitions afterwards.

Also, I created  "60-schedulers.rules" and "60-vm.swappiness.conf" as 
follows and then run "grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg"


With best regards, Simon

-------------------------------------------------------
#
# /etc/udev/rules.d/60-schedulers.rules
#

# set deadline scheduler for non-rotating disks
ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="0", 
ATTR{queue/scheduler}=

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Martin Tarenskeen — 2013-05-20T16:53:04


On Mon, 20 May 2013, Simon Lewis wrote:



I have FC18. I hope they have improved the installer for FC19. The 
installer for FC18 was not a real joy to use ...

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-20T16:51:03

Hi Fernando

To be honest I wanted a build that made the most of the processor I have 
and don't mind making the suggested donation when downloading the sources...


With best regards, Simon


Am 20.05.2013 18:22, schrieb Fernando Lopez-Lezcano:

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-20T16:38:35

Hi Sean

To be honest I never made the upgrade to fc18 as fc17 was working very 
well and I had a very stable system. However, the workload of 
backporting libraries, etc. (with new APIs needed for the latest and 
greatest audio apps) has rocketed, therefore I need to make a switch to 
a newer system. Fc18 is already reached it's half-life and thus I tried 
out fc19. The standard 3.9.x kernel is flaky, but the 3.8.13-201.rt8 
kernel built on fc19 is absolutely rock solid, I've been using the 
3.8.4-rt2 as well as the 3.8.12.rt6 for the last 3 weeks, without any 
problems and jackd has never run so well on my old cheapo laptop.

With best regards, Simon


Am 20.05.2013 17:37, schrieb Sean Beeson:

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Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Brendan Jones — 2013-05-20T16:21:40

I'll have the dependencies pushed through to Fedora in the next couple 
of days...

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano — 2013-05-20T16:22:05

For reference I'm attaching the spec file I have been using to deploy 
ardour3 internally < at > ccrma... there's still some old stuff commented out 
so this requires some cleanup of course. I will also incorporate changes 
based on your spec file (thanks for posting!).

In general you probably want to download the binary that Paul 
distributes through ardour.org... (that is the "canonically" correct 
build :-)

Re: Ardour3-3.1.10

Sean Beeson — 2013-05-20T15:37:47


Hi, Simon. Do you not mention fc18 because it wasn't tested while the
others were?

Sean
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Ardour3-3.1.10

Simon Lewis — 2013-05-20T05:21:42

Ardour3 can be built and runs smoothly on fc17 and fc19 using the 
attached spec file

The latest stable releases of lilv, sord,serd, stratom and co from 
http://drobilla.net/ are required...
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Re: 3.8.13-201.rt8 also builds and runs very smoothly on fc19 alpha

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano — 2013-05-20T01:17:44

I can try a rebuild targeting that but I won't have time till after the 
28th (concerts coming up in the Bing Studio, speaker rigging and other 
stuff starting tomorrow). It is normally not very difficult to rebuild 
but takes time. The main snag is usually compiler changes that break 
building the packages, on some releases that has been a real pain.

As to Pure Data... it is usually one of the tricky packages :-) I have 
been in the process of updating to the latest release (which no longer 
includes pidip) so there is a preliminary build if I remember correctly 
(< fc19, of course).

Re: 3.8.13-201.rt8 also builds and runs very smoothly on fc19 alpha

M. Edward (Ed) Borasky — 2013-05-19T22:52:51

Mostly to do as much testing on the Fedora Jam respin as possible.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5395297,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5395298

I have two projects going - algorithmic composition / synthesis and
computational journalism. The CompJourno stuff is running fine on
Fedora 19, and my laptop will stay at 18 until 19 is in beta and maybe
until it's released.

How much work is it to rebuild Planet CCRMA for 19? The only things I
use heavily that aren't in Fedora itself are the Lisp-based tools
(Common Music, especially) and Pure Data.

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
<nando< at >ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote:

Re: 3.8.13-201.rt8 also builds and runs very smoothly on fc19 alpha

Fernando Lopez-Lezcano — 2013-05-19T22:24:52

Any particular reason why you are migrating to fc19 so early?
I have not even given thought to rebuilding the Planet CCRMA packages 
for it yet...