gmane.comp.audio.audacity.devel

Re: Good audio tool

Martyn Shaw — 2008-12-04T00:48:19

David MacDonald wrote: Good, but I'm getting bored with it, in favour of Convolve (which is another project). Good. Only a bit. But I'm sure others will pick me up. Please try the latest version. Can you pick it up from Gale's build? Martyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Good audio tool

Martyn Shaw — 2008-12-04T00:26:31

Thanks David B, that gave me some useful pointers. I think I've fixed the spin boxes (TimeTextCtrls) and they seem to work with 'Narrator / microsoft Sam' (I don't have Jaws). I've tried using 'read-only edit boxes' for the volume etc and they don't appear in the tabbing order, for me. Do they work for you? I take it that Gale is doing nightly builds and you are picking those up? I assume that you can try what I've done like that? Your feedback is really useful, and examples in Audacity of where things work like you want them to would be good, since it's a way of picking Leland's brains in his absence. Any idea how to make Narrator stop saying 'Static Text' on those bits of unreadable text? TTFN Martyn David Bailes wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Sour

Re: Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

Gale Andrews — 2008-12-03T21:32:57

| From "David R. Sky" shellworld.net> | Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:46:16 -0800 (PST) | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge Yes, here too Lynx gives me a .gz file. It either requests the content type as .gz or sees it as such (?), but the actual link is to an .ny file, and that's what you get (unzipped) in the Firefox and Internet Explorer graphical browsers. Lynx can't seem to cope with downloading Audacity from SourceForge, at least using it in a default way - it sees the content type as text/html and just downloads the SF download page. Gale ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Updated vocalremover.ny

Gale Andrews — 2008-12-03T20:57:30

| From "David R. Sky" shellworld.net> | Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:19:42 -0800 (PST) | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Updated vocalremover.ny Thanks, David - I'll check it and commit it, or drop you a line off-list if anything else is needed. Gale ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

David R. Sky — 2008-12-03T19:46:16

Hi Gale, That's exactly where I went, and I tried again - the filename was again vocalremover.ny.gz, a zipped file as Paul had explained. So something's change on the page since I've done this before but not had any .gz files given to me. My browser Lynx does not offer which file format to save a downloaded file as. Thanks - David

Re: Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

sea sound (kiki — 2008-12-03T19:34:29

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Updated vocalremover.ny

David R. Sky — 2008-12-03T19:19:42

Hi, Attached is an updated version of vocalremover.ny. It has one additional input field "vocal reduction amount [percent]", default 100%. So if someone wants to have Agnetha and Anni-Frid as backup vocalists on an ABBA track they can reduce the vocals by let's say 50% rather than entirely removing them. *grin* Thanks to Gale and two others on the users list for triggering this idea. Since my Windows computer is coming back tonight, could someone please check that it works as intended, and commit if desired. Thanks - David

Re: Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

David R. Sky — 2008-12-03T18:56:23

Thanks paul, that worked great! - David

Re: Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

Paul Martin — 2008-12-03T10:18:58

gzip. Use Winzip or an equivalent to decompress it.

Re: Good audio tool

David Bailes — 2008-12-03T10:27:53

Hi, On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:43 AM, David MacDonald sympatico.ca> wrote: I downloaded the 2 Dec build from Gale's website, and had a look at how Jaws reads the dialog. 1. At the moment all the spin boxes have the same label "parameters" - neither the foregroung/background or start/end labels are being picked up. It would better from a screen readers perspective if instead of the "parameters" group of controls there were two groups: "foreground parameters" and "background parameters". Then a screen reader could tell the difference between identical controls in the two groups, eg the use selection buttons, as the group name is read out before the control's label. 2. I'm sure that Leland would be able to tell you what magic is required for a screen reader to pick up the start and end labels for the spin boxes, if it isn't obvious from simialr code examples. 3. To get the volume, contrast result, and difference text to get read out, you could make them read-only edit boxes. There may be other way

Trying to download a .ny file from sourceforge

David R. Sky — 2008-12-03T08:12:59

Hi, Based on a conversation with Gale and a couple other people on the users list, I realized there was a simple yet potentially useful way to upgrade vocalremover.ny. However, the three times I downloaded the file from two separate links from the Nyquist plug-ins repository, the file was complete gibberish, even though the plug was fine when reading it on it's "page", which was the link I tried to download it from. There was something new I haven't seen before - the filename given to me to download as was vocalremover.ny.gz - what's the .gz extension for? Could someone please email it to me or post it here as an attachment - even though my Windows computer is away until tomorrow night all I need to add is one input line, one extra line of code, and change one specific value throughout the plug. Thanks - David

Good audio tool

David MacDonald — 2008-12-03T03:43:37

Re: Compile error in FFmpeg.cpp

LRN — 2008-12-03T02:39:01

Here you are. Sorry for that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Compile error in FFmpeg.cpp

Gordon Weast — 2008-12-03T02:11:27

I updated from CVS this evening and got a compile error in FFmpeg.cpp. This is on Ubuntu 8.04 with gcc. Line 518 in FFmpeg.cpp ... // Attempt to load avcodec_init from it. if (avformat->HasSymbol("avcodec_init")) { ... It should be: // Attempt to load avcodec_init from it. if (avformat->HasSymbol(wxT("avcodec_init"))) { The wxT string conversion was missing. Can someone make the change and get it into CVS? Gordon Weast ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Audio contrast tools.

Gale Andrews — 2008-12-02T20:46:36

| From Martyn Shaw googlemail.com> | Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:49:17 +0000 | Subject: [Audacity-devel] Audio contrast tools. OK, I had not noticed it before in other effects. Will do. If it's a mistake to capitalise rms, it's very common, and made by affilliate societies of IEEE themselves: http://odysseus.ieee.org/ewh/query.html?st=26&charset=iso-8859-1&nh=25&col=allieee&qc=allieee&qp=url%3Awww.ewh.ieee.org/&qt=RMS Still, not an issue as it's so unclear. I can't find for sure whether the abbreviation for "decibels" should be "dB" or "dBs" as your text has it, though I think "dB" is much more common in actual usage. I still think this might not be sufficiently apparent to the user (though documenting it will help). After all, a user (they might posit) can run other effects with a selection region that is finer than the selection format. And where your message says "Please select audio", they already are, and the "Use Selection" button does not help. They will also see this messa

Re: reported incompatible FFmpeg library onWindows 2000

Gale Andrews — 2008-12-02T19:50:36

| From LRN gmail.com> | Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:10:04 +0300 | Subject: [Audacity-devel] reported incompatible FFmpeg library on Windows 2000 Thanks, LRN. I've rebuilt and pointed the complainants to it, so you can assume the issue fixed unless I post back here about it. Gale ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: WMA exports mostly don't play on Windows if metadata added

LRN — 2008-12-02T05:14:35

Initial research turned up nothing. That is - ffmpeg converts audio to wma with tags and resulting file is perfectly playable, while Audacity exports the same audio file as wma - and it comes out screwed. Contents of both files are similar, though not identical. Looks like Audacity has to do something *extra* while exporting wma. I'll have to hack into ffmpeg.exe source code and see what it does and why. That will take some time... P.S. While Audacity-exported wma with tags is unplayable in most players, FFmpeg itself has no problems converting it back to wav. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: reported incompatible FFmpeg library on Windows 2000

LRN — 2008-12-02T05:10:04

I've committed a fix. The new code should kick in when wxDynamicLibraryDetailsArray is empty. It will try to find avcodec_init() function in avformat library, and if it is there assumes that library is statically linked. It it is not, Audacity will look for other libraries either in PATH or in the same directory as avformat. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: reported incompatible FFmpeg library onWindows 2000

Vaughan Johnson — 2008-12-02T00:53:53

Gale Andrews wrote: Yes, per recent msg from FSF, because it's from Microsoft and Microsoft says "This /DLL/ is included in the operating system." - V ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/

Re: Audio contrast tools.

Martyn Shaw — 2008-12-02T00:49:17

Gale Andrews wrote: Ug! Fixed (but poorly, it'll do for now). I just knew you'd ask about that! Now fixed. Not a Contrast bug, it happens the same in Generate->Tone etc etc. TimeTextCtrl bug. Add to the bug list as a P3/4. Changed to lc in Difference: as per lots of sources, eg http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/ias/pub-dept/abbreviation.pdf I'm sure people could find many sources using uc RMS, but fail to justify that. I'm not getting involved ;-) . "Use Selection" buttons do what they say, within David's confines of only using seconds (or mine of whatever format is selected on the selection bar / effect controls). "Change Format" is too big a conceptual leap, and too much coding. I've made a simpler change to the Contrast Result: text. HTH Martyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is

Re: sbsms compilation

Richard Ash — 2008-12-01T22:05:40

For small changes that's about all there is. If you find yourself doing a major update from one to the other I have a procedure documented in the bottom of lib-src/audacity-patches.txt for for working out which files have changed / been added / been removed in a newer upstream version. For this to work you have to keep track of any local patches included in Audacity CVS otherwise they get lost at each upgrade, hence why various patches are committed to audacity CVS. No problem having all the source code in audacity CVS. There would still be an advantage to disable building the programs as it speeds up the build significantly (we can do this from the Audacity configure script). It would also make packaging for Linux distributions a bit easier, because the libsbsms package then has no optional dependencies, and the programs (with the WX and PortAudio deps) don't have to be installed in order to compile against the libs. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T