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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Arthur Chance — 2012-05-25T16:40:07

[big snip]

That's fine. OK, so you're after basic file system visibility 
everywhere. You should look at Mehmet Erol Sanliturk's reply as well, he 
gives useful links.

As he said in his post, NFS is the first place to start. It's available 
on FreeBSD, Linux, Mac OS, other Unix derived systems, and Windows 7. 
The one thing to be careful of is that it works best when you have all 
home directories on central servers and all access is on client 
machines. It is possible to cross mount NFS that machines act as both 
servers and clients but it has many problems and one server crashing can 
cause everything to lock up. (Been there, done that, cursed repeatedly.)

For earlier (< 7) Windows boxes, one possibility is running Samba on the 
Unix servers. This would seem most natural to a Windows user as they 
merely have to browse the network to find the shared file systems.

However, another possibility is running a WebDAV server that makes the 
home directories visible. Windows (>= XP) can connect drive letters to 
WebDAV servers, and there are also Android and iPhone apps that can 
access WebDAV. This would let smartphone and tablet users get to the 
shared data, if that's useful. Please note that I use Android but not 
iOS, so any IOS suggestions are from a quick Google search, not 
experience. It also seems that you have to pay for the relevant iOS 
apps. Maybe an iPhone/iPad user can improve on this?

I hope this is of some help.

Possibly useful links:

The handbook chapter on network servers. This covers NFS, Samba and 
Apache which can be used for WebDAV.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html#NETWORK-SERVERS

Wikipedia on WebDAV. This links onwards to all sorts of related resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV

An Android app that can access WebDAV (and much more besides). This is 
one I use, but please note that I haven't used it specifically for 
WebDAV. You may be able to find others but this is well rated. It's got 
free and paid for versions.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xcxin.filexpert

A (paid for) iPhone WebDAV app. Apparently iWork for iOS can also handle 
WebDAV, but I know nothing about it or its suitability.

http://greenbytes.de/dav-e.html

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Re: compatibility

doug — 2012-05-25T16:28:04



http://ark.intel.com/products/42503 = amd64
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portupgrade ... doesn't

Gary Aitken — 2012-05-25T16:10:38

Has to be something stupid:

347 /usr/ports#pkg_version -v | grep updating
p5-XML-Twig-3.39                    <   needs updating (port has 3.40)

348 /usr/ports#portupgrade -Rv P5-XML-Twig
--->  Session started at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600
[Exclude up-to-date packages  done]
** None has been installed or upgraded.
--->  Session ended at: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:03:54 -0600 (consumed 00:00:00)

350 /usr/ports#pkg_info | grep p5-XML-Twig
p5-XML-Twig-3.39    Process huge XML documents by chunks via a tree 
interface

hints?
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Peter Ulrich Kruppa — 2012-05-25T15:45:04

Hi!

On 25.05.2012 17:12, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Well, this should reduce the cloud to an sftp-server or - if their stuff
isn't security sensitive to an ftp-server.

Greetings

Uli.
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Somewhat OT: CVS Question

Tim Daneliuk — 2012-05-25T15:59:12

Forgive the OT nature of this, but FBSD tends to be a big CVS user, so I
am hoping someone has an answer for this.  Feel free to reply privately
if you do not wish to inflict your answer up on the whole list...

Is there a way to checkout a project from a CVS repo *into the current
directory*?   If I do this:

cvs co -d .  foo

Or this:

cvs co -d ./ foo

I get this:

cvs checkout: existing repository /usr/cvs/... does not match /usr/cvs/.../foo
cvs checkout: ignoring module waccess

Ideas?

ghostscript build problem

Gary Aitken — 2012-05-25T15:55:07

My build of gnome2-lite failed building ghostscript.
Went to ports/ghostscript and did
   make clean
   make install
and I still get the same error.

After make install attempt,
   work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09
exists and has files with original dates, except
   ert.c
   gdevpag.c
were freshly created.
however, there is no .o or executable.
In addition, the directory epag-3.09 has owner and group set to 1000,
which as nearly as I can tell are both non-existent owner and group on 
this system.

output of make -v install:

...
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for ghostscript/ghostscript-9.05.tar.bz2.
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for ghostscript/epag-3.09.tar.gz.
/usr/bin/tar -C /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05 -xzf 
/usr/ports/distfiles/ghostscript/epag-3.09.tar.gz
/bin/ln -s -f epag-3.09 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/files/epag.contrib.mak 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript
-9.05/base/epag.contrib.mak
...

===>  Building for ghostscript9-9.05_3
/bin/ln -s -f 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/gdevepag.c 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscrip
t-9.05/base
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/contrib/epag
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/* 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/
ghostscript-9.05/contrib/epag
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/obj
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/bin
GNU Make 3.82
Built for amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0
...
cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09 && 
/usr/bin/env CFLAGS_STANDARD="-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing"
XCFLAGS="" XLDFLAGS="-pthread"  EXTRALIBS="-liconv" 
SOC_LOADER="dxmainc.c" FT_BRIDGE=1 SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES 
AUTOCONF=/usr/loc
al/bin/autoconf-2.69  AUTOCONF_DIR=/usr/local/share/autoconf-2.69 
AUTOHEADER=/usr/local/bin/autoheader-2.69  AUTOIFNAMES=/usr/local
/bin/ifnames-2.69  AUTOM4TE=/usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.69 
AUTORECONF=/usr/local/bin/autoreconf-2.69  AUTOSCAN=/usr/local/bin/autosca
n-2.69  AUTOUPDATE=/usr/local/bin/autoupdate-2.69  AUTOCONF_VERSION=2.69 
  PREFIX=/usr/local  LOCALBASE=/usr/local  MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/
local/lib -lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib"  CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing"  CPP="cpp" CPPFLAGS="-DUPD_SIGNAL=0 -I.  -I/
usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/lcms/include 
-I/usr/local/include/libpng  -I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/g
hostscript-9.05/openjpeg/libopenjpeg 
-I/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/openjpeg 
-I/usr/local/include"  LDFLAGS
=" -L/usr/local/lib"  CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing"  MANPREFIX="/usr/local" 
BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install  -s -
o root -g wheel -m 555"  BSD_INSTALL_LIB="install  -s -o root -g wheel 
-m 444"  BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
"  BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install  -o root -g wheel -m 444" 
BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install  -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f Makefile
cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -c 
/usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05/epag-3.09/ert.c
cc -o ert ert.o
cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9/work/ghostscript-9.05 &&  cc -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -I./obj -I./soobj -I./base  -I./contrib
/pcl3/eprn -o bin/pcl3opts  contrib/pcl3/src/pcl3opts.c 
contrib/pcl3/src/pclscan.c  contrib/pcl3/eprn/mediasize.c contrib/pcl3/src/p
clsize.c
test: -eq: unexpected operator
In file included from contrib/pcl3/eprn/mediasize.c:26:
./base/std.h:23:18: error: arch.h: No such file or directory

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript9.


Anyone else have this problem or can suggest a fix?

Thanks,

Gary
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk — 2012-05-25T15:44:34



http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-servers.html


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html
30.3 Network File System (NFS)


Use NFS :
Define each computer as both "Server" to serve to other users(s) and
"Client" .to see the other server(s) .



If there are Windows computers , you may also use  SAMBA :

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-samba.html
30.9 File and Print Services for Microsoft® Windows® Clients (Samba)

Windows 7 may see NFS , but previous editions , personally I do NOT know
any possibility .

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/sonasic/sonas1ic/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.sonas.doc%2Fusgr_cnnctng_via_nfs_frm_wndws.html


Enabling the NFS client on a Windows 7 system:

   1. Select Control Panel.
   2. Select Programs.
   3. Select Programs and Features.
   4. Select Turn Windows Features on or off.
   5. Select Services for NFS.
   6. Select the check box Client for NFS and click OK.




Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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compatibility

Philippe Combier — 2012-05-25T15:22:52

Hello !
I have  a Samsung  portable with an Intel Atom cpu N450 . In http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html , you specify “versions & platform “ and I cannot  locate  the type of processor of  my Samsung .What choice do I do ? 
Thank you very much for the answer
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Frank Bonnet — 2012-05-25T15:12:58


Well ... in short I need to let our users ( students + profs ) access 
and share their data ( living in their UNIX home directories )
The access must be easy and possible from as much devices as possible.
Am I clear enough ? ( sorry English is not my native language ...)





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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Arthur Chance — 2012-05-25T14:49:03

I wasn't flaming, just remarking on the fact that the meaning of "cloud" 
depends on the company that is trying to sell you cloud related products.


A bit more specific would be useful.


could be taken to mean anything from WebDAV/Dropbox functionality to 
Hadoop type processing or data mining. What sort of and how much 
"manipulation" is needed? If you answer that it would let us help you more.
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Michelle Konzack — 2012-05-25T14:42:49

Hello Frank,

Am 2012-05-25 10:11:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

LOL  :-P  :-D


I do storage and database services since 1999  and  run  currently  more
then 400 servers in 6 locations.

When some years ago peoples startinfg talking about "cloud computing"  I
was puzzeling arround what they mean with it...

Realy, - I understood nothing.

What they have defined as "Cloud Computing" I have used already for more
then 10 years.

Or do they mean with "cloud computing" adding new interfaces to  a  huge
storage server with an "office webinterface" ?

What I am adding to my service is an access for smartphones and tablets.

Something like image galleries (private, groups, public, shared,  ACLs),
Video Interface (works  like  YouTube  or  even  private  streaming)  is
already since several years...

Yeah, what I am missing is a Web-Version of OpenOffice  or  LibreOffice,
which let users read, create and edit documents...  But there is already
work in progress.

So, what does "Cloud Computing" realy mean?

Something like a clustered hyperspeedy calculator?  Yes you can  get  if
from me.  The system use unused capacities of my 400 servers plus a self
made BladeServer with 256 CPUs (currently only 64 inserted because they
are quiet expensive)


Not realy  ;-)  becaue it depends, what you undertsnd under

    Cloud Systems / Cloud Computing / Cloud Networking 


Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack

Re: "Cloud" software ?

Frank Bonnet — 2012-05-25T14:12:38

Well ... My goal was NOT to start a flame war around the "cloud" term ...

next time I'll choose better words :-)


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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Wojciech Puchar — 2012-05-25T14:04:31

fashion is quite often deciding factor not just in clothes. Actually it 
works just the same in IT. What is funny with "cloud computing" (new 
fashion trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably marketing 
people found out that it is not needed to define anything to make people 
buy....ANYTHING.
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Arthur Chance — 2012-05-25T13:55:04

With apologies to Joni Mitchell:

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
 From up and down, and still somehow,
It's cloud illusions I recall,
I really don't know clouds, at all.

Well, someone had to say it. :-) It summarises the marketing hype perfectly.

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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Wojciech Puchar — 2012-05-25T13:29:29

how one can invest of something that isn't even defined clearly.
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question about milter software

Wojciech Puchar — 2012-05-25T13:21:28

Does anyone know milter software (or maybe anything else) to add to 
sendmail that can rewrite outgoing mail and add HTML footer automatically?

Please do not tell me about how stupid HTML mail is at all - i know it, it 
is not my idea.

thanks
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Wojciech Puchar — 2012-05-25T13:17:42

i think most people talking about "cloud" solutions have really CLOUDY 
idea of what they want.

Far too much marketing, far too little (if any) description of the needs.

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote:

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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Wojciech Puchar — 2012-05-25T13:16:27

look at clouds.


if you first define what "cloud" is - then maybe i can help you.

Now "cloud" is just marketdroid term meaning 100 different things, often 
contradictory.

If for you "cloud computing" means using remote services, then all FreeBSD 
available software are "cloud" software - just log remotely to FreeBSD 
server, by text (telnet,ssh) or graphics (X11, vnc) which is what i 
actually do most of the time
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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Jerry — 2012-05-25T11:37:48

On Fri, 25 May 2012 12:59:19 +0200
Frank Staals articulated:


I fully concur with Matthew's assessment, "Isn't 'private' essentially
the antithesis of 'cloud'?" I would never invest a dime or a single bit
of data to a cloud venture. However, that is just my 2¢ on the matter.
In any case, good luck with your venture.

Re: Extend Error Handling

Venkat Duvvuru — 2012-05-25T11:23:29

Folks - Any inputs on this?

for reference
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/powerpc/eeh-pci-error-recovery.txt

/Venkat

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Venkat Duvvuru
<venkatduvvuru.ml< at >gmail.com>wrote:

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Re: "Cloud" software ?

Frank Staals — 2012-05-25T10:59:19


As others have also already hinted at, I think you should be more
specific about what you want your ``cloud software'' to do. Without that
you will get K answers suggesting some software system that try to solve
K completely different problems. My part in those K different answers:
maybe OwnCloud[1] does something what you would want? 

Good luck & Regards, 

[1] http://owncloud.org/