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Re: Assigning tags to extension messages

Nick White — 2013-05-22T09:53:30

That's awesome and looks very useful, thanks S Page!

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Re: Assigning tags to extension messages

S Page — 2013-05-21T19:01:25

I added a section "Messages that should not be translated" to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Message_documentation , with
this information, plus the standard comments people appened to En, the
{{optional}} in Qqq, the system messageTypes.inc file, etc.

These are my observations of the conventions in use, so fix any mistakes!


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Re: Assigning tags to extension messages

Nick White — 2013-05-21T17:26:49

Thanks for the information. I am not particularly knowledgable about
how translatewiki.net works, so I didn't realise that
mediawiki-defines.txt file worked for extensions there too. It should
do exactly what I need, thanks a lot for the prompt reply.

Nick

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Re: Assigning tags to extension messages

Niklas Laxström — 2013-05-21T16:37:29

If your extension/skin is translated at translatewiki.net, you can
submit a patch against [1]. It has examples of that (search for
ignored). If you are talking about translating somewhere else, it
depends how you have configured the message group.

[1] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/translatewiki.git/HEAD/groups%2FMediaWiki%2Fmediawiki-defines.txt

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Assigning tags to extension messages

Nick White — 2013-05-21T11:13:40

Hi,

I have an extension (a skin, actually, but functionally it's exactly
the same) which makes use of system messages to allow administrators
to add extra content to some areas of wiki pages. So by default the
messages are empty, and should never be translated.

You can see this in the Erudite.i18n.php change at
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62623/

I would like to mark these messages as not to be translated.
It looks like one can do this within the mediawiki core using tags;
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Group_configuration#TAGS

But I can't see an equivalent method for extensions. Does such a
thing exist? I plan to mention in the 'qqq' entries that they
shouldn't be translated, but it would be nice if they could be
tagged so they weren't shown in the translation interface at all.

If no such mechanism exists, what would be the best way of adding
it? Using message documentation templates, or adding the possibility
of something like a local mediawiki-defines.txt file for extensions?

I don't know the i18n code very well, so perhaps there is a
perfectly good solution I am missing.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

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Re: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

Jean-Frédéric — 2013-05-10T17:13:24


Oh, I see. Thanks to them then - though I am indeed eager to hear more
about it...




It is from <
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Centralized_discussion> and was
mentionned on the Village Pump.




Well, it is not in the sense I was not looking yet for the shower of
Support/Oppose. I thought we needed to have it fleshed out a bit using the
input of the i18n folks - but this was just how I saw the all thing, I am
probably mistaken.




I was actually planning a SiteNotice ^____^
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Re: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

Federico Leva (Nemo — 2013-05-10T17:00:39

Jean-Frédéric, 10/05/2013 18:37:

Noo it's just the ULS deployment plan by the WMF Language engineering 
team (we'll hear about it very soon).


The RfC s not even linked from 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment>, I 
thought it wasn't officially open? It should just be advertised a 
little, with watchlist notices if needed.

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Re: I18n deployment 2013-05-07

Greg Grossmeier — 2013-05-07T16:10:47

Thanks Niklas for the helpful writeup.

One general question I have for you is: Is there anything I should do
from my end for the bugs you reported? Specifically from Platform/Core's
perspective? It looks like Aude responded to the Wikidata action=parse
one, which is good.

Thanks again,

Greg


<quote name="Niklas Laxström" date="2013-05-07" time="13:31:57 +0300">

Re: I18n deployment 2013-05-07

Niklas Laxström — 2013-05-07T10:31:57

Post deploymend update:

TL;DR: What was planned and even a bit more was done, but...


We found multiple issues during the deployment:
* While testing ULS on deployment-prep, I found that ULS trigger in
'personal' position did not honor $wgULSAnonCanChangeLanguage setting
and always opened the language selector instead of display settings.
This was an oversight in the planning&validation of stories in
previous sprint (there was no explicit mention about this). Amir made
a quick fix and I updated and deployed ULS to master on 1.22wmf3
branch. This was done before syncing configuration changes, but given
5 minute cache time for scripts, some anonymous users might have seen
language selector for some minutes. Amir's fix exposed another bug in
ULS, that clicking the trigger when ULS is open does not always close
the ULS. I added a note to bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47971
* ULS is now enabled on all deployment-prep projects in the two
different configurations depending on the project (personal vs.
interlanguage position). However there is an issue with purging which
means it is not visible on most of the pages. Filed as bug
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48203
* While testing updated ULS on wikidata.org, I found that part of the
interface was missing because API action=parse is broken there. Filed
as bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48201
* While testing TUX on wikidata.org, I found out that the fix for bug
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46716 did not fix the bug. Bug was
reopened.
* Whlle testing ULS, Pau found that clicking more languages ("...")
from IME icon opens language selector partially obscured and out of
the view port. Filed as bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48204
* While testing ULS on test.wikipedia.org, I found that IME settings
claim that there are no input methods for English. Amir was not able
to reproduce locally, but he will file a bug report.
* I ran over the reserved 60 minute slot because of the extra fix we
needed to make and also the refresh-translatable-pages.php script too
still longer than hour for rest of the wikis... wikidatawiki has
gathered a lots of translatable pages ;)

  -Niklas


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[Language Engineering] Office hour on May 8,2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT

Runa Bhattacharjee — 2013-05-07T04:11:21

Hello,

The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join
the team’s monthly office hour on May 8, 2013 (Wednesday) at 1700
UTC/1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office. During this session we would be
talking about some our recent activities and updates from the ongoing
projects. Event details and the general agenda is mentioned below.

See you all at the IRC office hour!

Thanks
Runa

Event Details:
===========

# Date: May 8, 2013
# Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 1000-1100 PDT
#IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net

Agenda:
------------

# Introductions
# Universal Language Selector - Development updates, Deployment schedule
# MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle (MLEB) Release
# Maven program - upcoming events
# GSoC update - we are participating in GSoC
# Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can
also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org before the event and can be
addressed during the office-hour.

[1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team

Re: Issue Displaying Language Names in Translatewiki Drop-down (was: Re: [p-c] Translating of CLDR)

Federico Leva (Nemo — 2013-05-04T11:58:04

CLDR 24 data submission has started on the 30th: 
http://cldr.unicode.org/index/survey-tool/whats-new
They also changed interface: worth trying.
There are changes to plural rules for Sinhala, Farsi, Kannada, Russian, 
Serbian, Croatian, Armenian, Bengali, Gujarati, Marathi, Zulu, Latvian, 
Hebrew.

Nemo

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Re: I18n deployment 2013-05-07

Greg Grossmeier — 2013-05-03T15:26:05

Noted, thank you!

<quote name="Niklas Laxström" date="2013-05-03" time="18:02:21 +0300">

I18n deployment 2013-05-07

Niklas Laxström — 2013-05-03T15:02:21

When: Tuesday 2013-05-07 08:00 UTC
What:
* Run refresh-translatable-pages.php for remaining WMF wikis using
Translate extension (mediawiki and meta were done last week).
* Enable ULS for anonymous users without language selection. This
brings web fonts and input methods to anonymous users on wikis which
have ULS (meta, mediawiki, wikidata and couple of others). Tehnically:
$wgULSEnableAnon is replaced with $wgULSAnonCanChangeLanguage.

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Provide genitive month names viamediawiki.language.monthNames

Paul Selitskas — 2013-05-01T19:56:28

Hello guys.

Could someone review the patch[1] providing genitive month names via
mw.language? Previously, another patch[2] was supplied for merge by Gerrit
that is dependent on my patch. The second patch fixes table sorting for
date columns in several languages which use genetive month names (like the
Slavic family) and is actually very relevant.

Thank you in advance!

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[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/36391/3
[2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/55496/

Re: I18n deployment 2013-04-30

Niklas Laxström — 2013-04-30T13:51:44

Because the script was slower than expected (it took 3 hours for meta
alone) I've postponed the running of this script for wikis other than
mediawiki.org and meta.wikimedia.org until next time. Hundreds if not
thousands of pages were updated.

  -Niklas

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Re: GSoC 2013 Proposal - jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome

Praveen Singh — 2013-04-29T18:18:35

Hi

I have implemented a small prototype Chrome extension related to this
project. It is a simple browser extension (currently for Google Chrome
only), that provides multilingual input support on any webpage.

Source code and installation instructions can be found at:
https://github.com/pravee-n/prototype.jquery.ime

Currently only a few languages are supported. You can try Hindi ( हिन्दी ),
Greek and a few other languages.

Looking forward to some feedback and suggestions.

Regards,

Praveen Singh


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Re: GSoC 2013 Proposal - jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome

Praveen Singh — 2013-04-29T07:39:38

Thank you Runa,

Looking forward to your feedback and suggestions.

Regards
Praveen Singh


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Re: GSoC 2013 Proposal - jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome

Runa Bhattacharjee — 2013-04-29T07:31:32


Thank you Praveen. We'll discuss more about it on the talk page.

regards
Runa

GSoC 2013 Proposal - jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome

Praveen Singh — 2013-04-29T06:24:32

Hello,

I have drafted a proposal for my GSoC Project: jQuery.IME extensions for
Firefox and Chrome. I would love to hear what you think about it.
I would really appreciate any kind of feedback and suggestions. Please let
me know if I can improve it in any way.

My proposal can be found here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Prageck/GSoC_2013_Application

Thanks,

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Re: [Commons-l] Enabling the Translate and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions on Commons

Jean-Frédéric — 2013-04-28T13:49:27

Hi,

FYI, I quick drafted

Scrap that, I drafted as well
<
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Translate_extension

Your input is welcome.

Thanks,

GSoC 2013 proposal

Or Sagi — 2013-04-27T23:46:25

Hi all,
I'm glad to announce my GSoC 2013 proposal for translatewiki.net Android
application.
please review it at:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Orsagi/GSoC_2013_proposal
and feel free to leave your tips and comments.

Thanks,
Or
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