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MediaWiki 1.21 delayed

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-05-18T15:24:27

I have to delay the release of MediaWiki 1.21 again because of a
logistics problem.

I am used to hearing logistics in the context of shipping physical
objects -- in the American trucking industry, for example -- so I can't
help but feel a little strange saying "logistics".  I had to go look up
the term and found this definition:

    The detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many
    people, facilities, or supplies.

That is about right.

I apologize for the confusion.

MediaWiki 1.21 release delayed until May 18

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-05-15T14:26:27

Despite the my intention to release 1.21 today, I have to delay it until
May 18.  Yesterday someone pointed out a blocker to me.

While we have a work-around for this, I don't have time to integrate it
right now, so the release needs to be delayed until Saturday.

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Re: New Developments. Let's talk about it

Sumana Harihareswara — 2013-05-15T01:14:09

Interested news-lovers on this list: now that a little time has passed,
are you looking at the Wikimedia blog more often? :-)  Specifically,
https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/ might be interesting for you
(the tech posts).

You might like to subscribe to
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors which
is a list that gets notified when interesting new tech is coming into
MediaWiki and will affect the Wikimedia sites -- it is often stuff that
is interesting to enterprises as well.

And our Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/MediaWiki (also available on
Identi.ca) might be something you'll enjoy as well!

Thanks for using MediaWiki!

1.21rc5 -- final release candidate beforerelease on May 15

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-05-13T19:12:36

The final release candidate for MediaWiki 1.21 (rc5) is available for
download.  See the end of this email for details.  There are a number of
bug fixes in this release that were not in rc4.  Please test this
version and report any problems.  Barring any show-stoppers, the final
release will be on May 15 will be the same as this with just a change to
the version number and updated release notes.

Changes since rc4:

* Changes to JS/JSON value encoding were backed out.
* API: Fix parameter validation in setnotificationtimestamp
commit 18eb39ecb5b89518c3d4a6cc79834a2c121477ff
Author: Brad Jorsch <bjorsch< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Fri Mar 15 14:03:19 2013 -0400

* (bug 47271) $wgContentHandlerUseDB should be set to false during the
upgrade
* (bug 47489) Installer now automatically selects the next-best database
type if
 the PHP mysql extension is not loaded, preventing fatal errors in some
cases.
* (bug 47202) wikibits: FF2Fixes.css should not be loaded in Firefox 20.
* (bug 46590) 'AbortChangePassword' hook added/documented (find bug)
* (bug 46848) toggleLinkPremade added linksPassthru
* (bug 47950) Fix IndexPager detection of "is first" state
* (bug 47304) added safeXmlEncodings to UploadBase for svg uploads
* (bug 46608) CoreParserFunctions::anchorencode should return a string


* Full release notes:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21


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Patch to previous version (1.20.0), without interface text:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc5.patch.gz
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http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc5.patch.gz

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http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc5.patch.gz.sig
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1.21.0rc4 -- another week, another RC

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-04-22T16:37:09

This is RC4 for 1.21.0 due to be released on May 15, 2013.  The
patches included since RC3 are after the download instructions.

While testing this release candidate, I discovered a bug in the
installer (Bug #47489) which I would like to get fixed before a final
release.

I've changed the list of bugs I would like to see fixed in the next
couple of weeks before release to 3 installer-only bugs:

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=47489%2C46802%2C43817

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43817
    Include short descriptions for extensions bundled in the release

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46802
    Enabling extensions during install process displays empty readonly
    textbox on status page

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47489
    white screen after no db selection

I'll take a stab at these, but I appreciate any help you guys can give.

Full release notes:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21


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http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc4.tar.gz

Patch to previous version (1.20.0), without interface text:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc4.patch.gz
Interface text changes:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc4.patch.gz

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http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc4.patch.gz.sig
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc4.patch.gz.sig

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Patches included since RC3:

commit 29d3243339f836ad13a722762e4b0f7056ee3764
Author: Brad Jorsch <bjorsch< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Sun Mar 3 22:35:05 2013 -0500

    Add parser method to call parser functions

    There is currently no straightforward way for anything to call a
    parser function and get the result. This abstracts out that portion
    of braceSubstitution() to allow this.

    The immediate motivation for this patch is to close bug 41769
    against Scribunto, see I0138836654b0e34c5c23daaedcdf5d4f9d1c7ab2.

    Bug: 41769
    Change-Id: I339b882010dedd714e7965e25ad650ed8b8cd48f

commit c81f3673423021c92a8e08a207236b4d48b0bc46
Author: Timo Tijhof <ttijhof< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Tue Mar 26 18:59:07 2013 +0100

    mw.loader: Guard against odd setTimeout behaviour in old Firefox

    Bug: 46575
    Change-Id: I80af730daa815f0c273fe942c570d1f0144bbbb1

commit d43c43727c0273ab9a861b39a70609bfbe14a801
Author: PleaseStand <pleasestand< at >live.com>
Date:   Wed Apr 17 13:49:50 2013 +0000

    Revert "Remove link to Special:ActiveUsers from Special:Statistics"

    Special:ActiveUsers still seems to be in REL1_21, and
    there is a pending change set (Ib43b4205) to add back
    the special page on the master branch.

    This reverts commit 4b2c7373f2ab6f701cbd7f371ad4b95829e34e70

    Change-Id: I5669477091ada36ea28c33de1232d2b7e9d0b413

commit c6528bb73b99de3ae6a5f3d8493e9dc8a1eb9120
Author: csteipp <csteipp< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Mon Apr 15 13:42:02 2013 -0700

    Sanitize $limitReport before outputting

    Prevents possible injection of "-->" and other HTML by extensions
    using the ParserLimitReport hook.

    bug: 46084
    Change-Id: Id97b6668da6df3e5e4c0acefffa00c82cac3c44a
    (cherry picked from commit 69f96f65dd99e54b84e489e7d957b7526653474c)

commit 73f30041f2cf4f5cac08bb3b37a38fa80832bec3
Author: csteipp <csteipp< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Mon Apr 15 13:44:23 2013 -0700

    Disable external entities in XMLReader

    Temporarily disable loading entities in XMLReader when calling
    read() with libxml_disable_entity_loader(true).

    bug: 46859

    Change-Id: I0b2ef270f15c7b4da17edee680bf7e2410919915
    (cherry picked from commit 1ed76385c31f44c589f6e5a99c9c56f1f3f76728)

commit 9c902fb78536566c3deb85cc1bfb033074520e22
Author: csteipp <csteipp< at >wikimedia.org>
Date:   Mon Apr 15 13:47:10 2013 -0700

    Disable external entities in Import

    Temporarily disable loading entities in XMLReader when calling
    read() during import.

    (cherry picked from commit 77a8d576918b6a47b80a67a3653662a2d705d6c3)

    bug: 47251
    Change-Id: I0b39386e6cf4ec0244aab8ebc4095922511e2964

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Re: Wikiapiary - a useful project for MWdevelopers

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-04-17T18:27:50

Yury, thanks for bringing this up.  This spurred me to contact the 
person who is running the site.  I think there is a lot of potential 
there.

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Wikiapiary - a useful project for MWdevelopers

Yury Katkov — 2013-04-17T16:36:40

Hi!

Have you seen wikiapiary project? [1] Personally I'm fascinated by the
statistics of the extensions, and skins. For example here is the stats for
Semantic MediaWiki:
http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:Semantic%20MediaWiki
You can see the website where the extension is installed and the version
information.

Wikiapiary is quite new and I think is open to ideas. For example I think
it would be nice to allow people to judge the extensions by several
criteria. Maybe also add some code statistics will also be useful.

Please post your ideas here.

[1] http://wikiapiary.com
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1.21.0rc3 -- more bug fixes and testing

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-04-16T16:32:08

It is time again for a new MediaWiki release candidate. Download links
at the end of this email. Note that I've include a "core-only" tarball
this week as well.

Since last week, the following fixes were included in the tarball:

  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58418/
    backport changes in Collation from master
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58462/
    Cleared ResourceLoader blob store after update.php finishes.
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59102/
    PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function isLocal() on non-object
    in Title.php
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59265/
    Combine JavaScript and JSON encoding logic
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59328/
    Fix pretty JSON when strings end with backslashes
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59329/
    FormatJson: microoptimizations for UTF8_OK mode

Fixes in queue:

  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59369/
    Disable $wgContentHandlerUseDB during upgrade where fields don't exist.
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59375/
    Sanitize $limitReport before outputting
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59376/
    Disable external entities in XMLReader
  * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59377/
    Disable external entities in Import

And, finally, if you want to pitch in, it isn't too late. Here is a list
of bugs I'd like to get fixed before the final release:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=46802,46401,44907,44568,44294,43817
<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=46802,46401,44907,44568,44524,43817>


  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43817
    Include short descriptions for extensions bundled in the release
  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44294
    MWException error - Error: invalid magic word 'speciale'
  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44568
    bin/ulimit5.sh isn't UNIX compliant
  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44907
    ResourceLoader: Invalid argument supplied for foreach
  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46401
    [Regression] mw.loader: Code should execute after styles being
    loaded (wait for async cssText buffering)
  * http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46802
    Enabling extensions during install process displays empty readonly
    textbox on status page

Full release notes:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21

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Download:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc3.tar.gz <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc2.tar.gz>
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-core-1.21.0rc3.tar.gz

Patch to previous version (1.20.0), without interface text:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc3.patch.gz <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc2.patch.gz>
Interface text changes:
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc3.patch.gz <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc2.patch.gz>

GPG signatures:
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http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-core-1.21.0rc3.tar.gz.sig <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc2.tar.gz.sig>
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc3.patch.gz.sig <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc2.patch.gz.sig>
http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc3.patch.gz.sig <http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc2.patch.gz.sig>

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emails in html or in nicely formatted plaintext?

Yury Katkov — 2013-04-14T18:04:54

Hi everyone!

Is there a way to configure email notifications and emails so that the
users of the wiki receive emails in html format? Or in text format
without wiki-markup. I haven't found any extension that can do that.

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Technical Contributors project - looking fora vendor

Quim Gil — 2013-04-04T05:05:08

Hi,

There is a Request for proposals / Statement of work for vendors 
interested in being involved in the development of this project:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikitech_contributors

We are still discussing the proposal in the community, but in any case 
we need a better idea of the resources and budget needed. If you have 
any questions please contact me.

By the way, the proposal might be interesting for other wikis with a 
community of contributors. Your feedback in the wiki page e.g. based on 
your own projects or your needs is welcome as well.

Re: Rich Editor for MediaWiki {stable}release - status and steps forward

Johan Ramm-Ericson — 2013-04-03T08:07:12


Hi Markus,

Thanks a million, this seems like *exactly* the right thing - I don't see
how I've managed to miss it before...
We are evaluating right now.

Thanks and Best Regards,
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Re: Rich Editor for MediaWiki {stable} release -status and steps forward

Markus Glaser — 2013-04-03T07:41:38

Hi Johan,

over the last five years, I developed an WYSIWYG editor based on TinyMCE which is part of BlueSpice [1]. You can try it in our demo [2] (User: Testuser, Pass: hallowelt). I’d say it’s pretty stable, we have a base of several thousand users in enterprise contexts. BlueSpice including the editor is GPLed and you’ll find a download link here: [3].

Maybe this one could be a basis for your instance? If you find something that needs to be improved, me and my team will be ready to do so in a short time frame. In any case, I’d be curious about what you think of BlueSpice J and the editor.

Best,

Markus

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BlueSpice

[2] http://demo.blue-spice.org/index.php/Hauptseite

[3] http://www.blue-spice.org/

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Hallo Welt! – Medienwerkstatt GmbH

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Hi,

As I've googled around a bit on the subject of a Rich Editor for MediaWiki, I can see that there has been some discussion on this subject already. Just let me quickly fill you in on my approach:

I work as a Linux sys admin and have been administrating a fairly large MediaWiki server on the company Intranet for a while now. Recently there has been *a lot* of internal discussion abut the availability of a Rich Editor as the WYSIWYG extension became incompatible after upgrading from MediaWiki 1.17.x to 1.19.x. Also, despite my adamant suggestions WikiEditor gets little or no internal approval. By the way; no need to dive into a discussion about why we upgraded despite knowing that the WYSIWYG extension would not work.

I'm now trying to get internal support for putting up money to pay a skillful programmer to finish whatever needs to be done to get a Rich Editor out into a stable state for a given MediaWiki release. So here are my questions to you:

* What is the state of Rich Editor extensions for MediaWiki - is Visual Editor the main contender or are there other more suitable choices?

* How far from a stable release is each respective Rich Editor?

* What needs to be done to get it / them into a stable state? How many hours would a programmer with relevant skills need to get it / them there?

* What are the relevant skills a programmer would need?

* Any recommendation for programmers that could do the job in a relatively short time frame?

Hope I'm asking this in the right forum, if I'm not I'd appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

Thanks and Best Regards,

Johan

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Re: Rich Editor for MediaWiki {stable} release - status and steps forward

Yury Katkov — 2013-04-03T07:23:25

Rich Editor? Do you mean the markup editor that is not WYSIWYG but rich in
features?
I know that WikEd is quite active but look pretty monstrous to the
untrained eye :-)
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better history,recent changes and notification

Yury Katkov — 2013-04-03T06:54:52

Hi guys!

How do you deal with recent changes, notifications and history in
MediaWiki? Maybe anyone knows or develops the extensions that make those
things more flexible?
For example we've tried to simplify the recent changes page leaving only
the very nessesary things there and hiding the changes made by our
moderators and admins: http://i.imgur.com/oN1QYCI.png

We've also experimented with Semantic Watchlist extension: if you have
Semantic MediaWiki installed it allows you to see what property values have
been modified.

The last feature is the visual diff tool: I can say that sometimes it's
very helpful but when we're talking about formatting differences the
traditional two-side diff in better.

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Rich Editor for MediaWiki {stable} release -status and steps forward

Johan Ramm-Ericson — 2013-04-02T20:31:11

Hi,

As I've googled around a bit on the subject of a Rich Editor for MediaWiki,
I can see that there has been some discussion on this subject already. Just
let me quickly fill you in on my approach:

I work as a Linux sys admin and have been administrating a fairly large
MediaWiki server on the company Intranet for a while now. Recently there
has been *a lot* of internal discussion abut the availability of a Rich
Editor as the WYSIWYG extension became incompatible after upgrading from
MediaWiki 1.17.x to 1.19.x. Also, despite my adamant suggestions WikiEditor
gets little or no internal approval. By the way; no need to dive into a
discussion about why we upgraded despite knowing that the WYSIWYG extension
would not work.

I'm now trying to get internal support for putting up money to pay a
skillful programmer to finish whatever needs to be done to get a Rich
Editor out into a stable state for a given MediaWiki release. So here are
my questions to you:

* What is the state of Rich Editor extensions for MediaWiki - is Visual
Editor the main contender or are there other more suitable choices?
* How far from a stable release is each respective Rich Editor?
* What needs to be done to get it / them into a stable state? How many
hours would a programmer with relevant skills need to get it / them there?
* What are the relevant skills a programmer would need?
* Any recommendation for programmers that could do the job in a relatively
short time frame?

Hope I'm asking this in the right forum, if I'm not I'd appreciate if you
could point me in the right direction.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Johan

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Re: MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test1.21and update the announcement

Derric Atzrott — 2013-04-01T13:07:08

If you need help setting this part up, I'm willing to assist you.

Thank you,
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Re: MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21and update the announcement

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-04-01T13:03:13

No, this is a complete, downloadable version.


Yes, MediaWiki requires at least version 5.3.2 of PHP.


None of these is needed.


Note that this is a release candidate for MediaWiki 1.21.0 -- it is not
"my" version of the software as I've done nothing special with this.  I
am the release manager for MediaWiki and this is a release candidate for
a normal release.

This may not be absolutely clear since I used my own server for the
release instead of download.wikimedia.org.  I had the release ready and
didn't want to wait for someone to upload it to download.wm.o, so I put
it on my own server.  The next release candidate will be on download.wm.o.


MediaWiki supports uploading PDF and EPS files with the right
configuration.  I haven't tried uploading EPS files, but providing
thumbnails of these and the PDFs should work.

MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 andupdate the announcement

Mark A. Hershberger — 2013-03-31T23:49:09

I've just finished preparing the first release candidate for MediaWiki
1.21 and I'd like your help testing it before the final release.

Please download the release candidate and test it.  If you find any bugs
please report them on Bugzilla[1] and make sure I am added as a CC so
that we can fix any show-stoppers before the final release.

Finally, if you could also look over
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21, I'll be using an edited
version of that to make the final announcement.  If you spot problems or
areas that could use clarification, your help in improving it would be
appreciated.

[1]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki&cc=mah< at >everybody.org&version=1.21-git

Full release notes:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21


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Interface text changes:
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Re: New Developments. Let's talk about it

Richard Heigl — 2013-03-31T10:20:52

Thanks Yuri and Jeremy for your helpful references!
Shame: Planet Wikimedia was really new for me.

Richard

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In Russia we have very popular IT-blogging farm called Habrahabr. I've almost finished my article about Semantic MediaWiki, hopeflly it will attract some attention. I also occasionnaly write to my blog, which is not... khhmm, super popular :D :

http://ykatkov.name

BTW is there anything like like collective IT blog in English segment of the Web? I've found the following websites where the articles about MediaWiki will be in appriate place:

https://news.ycombinator.com
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ - very must have
http://techcrunch.com/social/
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/ ??????
https://freecode.com/projects/mediawiki (with pretty funny way of publishing articles: http://help.freecode.com/kb/articles/how-do-i-submit-an-article-for-publication-on-freecode)
What about asking questions you need not in wikitech-l or mediawiki mailing lists but on stackoverflow.com<http://stackoverflow.com> ? It creates some visibility.

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Richard Heigl <heigl< at >hallowelt.biz<mailto:heigl< at >hallowelt.biz>> wrote:
Dear all,

this afternoon I was reading about the coming Flow extension. That's really great work. And I can't wait to work with it.
And there are so many other interesting projects: Visual Editor, Parsoid, Athena skin, Echo, Lua, Wiki Data and so on.

Despite of that MediaWiki you can see at Google Trends, that MediaWiki is still loosing attention. And in my opinion people just don't know, that MediaWiki is catching up. And they don't know, that it needs help.

But this is important for all of us, that developers see, that MediaWiki is no longer a software of the "zero" years.

So I suggest to publish more blog articles and social media posts about this new developments and if somebody has something nice to read, to discuss or to share gives a hint, so that the others can spread the news in their community.

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: New Developments. Let's talk about it

Yury Katkov — 2013-03-29T18:18:54

In Russia we have very popular IT-blogging farm called Habrahabr. I've
almost finished my article about Semantic MediaWiki, hopeflly it will
attract some attention. I also occasionnaly write to my blog, which is
not... khhmm, super popular :D :

http://ykatkov.name

BTW is there anything like like collective IT blog in English segment of
the Web? I've found the following websites where the articles about
MediaWiki will be in appriate place:

https://news.ycombinator.com
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ - very must have
http://techcrunch.com/social/
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/ ??????
https://freecode.com/projects/mediawiki  (with pretty funny way of
publishing articles:
http://help.freecode.com/kb/articles/how-do-i-submit-an-article-for-publication-on-freecode
)
What about asking questions you need not in wikitech-l or mediawiki mailing
lists but on stackoverflow.com  ? It creates some visibility.


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Re: New Developments. Let's talk about it

Richard Heigl — 2013-03-29T17:30:53

Hi Derric,

thanks for your email. I know the Wikimedia Blog, but I just look at it every few weeks or months. :-( And if you or somebody else writes something most probably I don't see it. So I thought, we can organize that a bit, that messages can be spread.

If somebody just posts a link and a comment in this MediaWiki enterprise list I'll get an email (!). That's completely different. Old school but effective :-D

Have a nice weekend!
Richard

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Good afternoon Richard,

Have you seen the Wikimedia Foundation's blog? It is available at https://blog.wikimedia.org/ and they post to it several times a week.

I agree though that there is not really enough promotion of the Mediawiki software. I try to share things that I read on the Wikimedia blog when they are interesting.

It has always seemed strange to me how few people seem to know about Mediawiki and what it is capable of (likewise how few people understand how Wikipedia works).

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott

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