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Re: Copying large files to a thumb drive?

Daniel Beer — 2013-05-17T01:01:28


The maximum size of any file on a FAT filesystem is 4 GB (minus one
byte), so yes, the filesystem is the problem.

Re: Copying large files to a thumb drive?

Worik Stanton — 2013-05-17T00:54:53

Thank you.  That is very helpful.

cheers
W

Copying large files to a thumb drive?

Worik Stanton — 2013-05-17T00:38:00

I have a 32 gig thumb drive that I want to put HD videos on to play on
my TV.  (So far the best way I have found to

All works well except that the 5GB files do not copy happily.  At about
4GB the copy process fails complaining the file is to large, or it fails
silently.

I have tried drag and drop in Nautilus, the cp command and the dd
command.  I was about to use split, cp and cat but if some one has a
reason this is happening it could speed things up remarkably.

I am wondering if another file system might help.  According to mount it
is vfat, the drive I am copying the files from is fuseblk (not sure what
that is).

Any ideas?

cheers
Worik

Re: DNS resolution on local network

Phil Weir — 2013-05-12T11:26:44

While I'm pretty sketchy on Win/OSX networking stuff, it looks like
Bonjour only handles resolution of "*.local" names - maybe try pinging
riwaka.local? Apparently Android doesn't come with mDNS, but there may
be some way of installing JmDNS.
P

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Re: DNS resolution on local network

Bob Brown — 2013-05-12T10:47:27

Yeah there's the hosts file of course but I was more curious to know why it
even happened in the first place. Thanks Phil for the tip - will check that
out. Windows machine has iTunes installed which AFAIK also installs the
Bonjouir client. Android tablet doesn't resolve it.


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Re: DNS resolution on local network

Geoff Barkman — 2013-05-12T09:49:41

I think thats one of the many bugs of windoze. There is a hosts file inside
the system directory that you can populate with machine name and ip numbers
to make it work the way you hoped.
Many thanks
Geoff.

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Re: DNS resolution on local network

Phil Weir — 2013-05-12T08:58:06

Maybe multicast DNS? Seeing any traffic on UDP 5353? Apparently
Windows does not come with any mDNS responder pre-installed, whereas
Apples come with Bonjour and Linux with Avahi / nss-mdns. If that's
the case, then you should find your Apple devices can resolve riwaka,
and installing Bonjour should let your Windows devices do so too.
Handy link/summary page :
http://www.icir.org/gregor/tools/autoconf-protocols.html
P

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DNS resolution on local network

Bob Brown — 2013-05-12T08:12:10

Hi,

A little while ago I installed a Debian server and called it "riwaka". It
is a bare bones install - only OpenSSH is installed onto it. I chose DHCP
for the network and it was assigned an IP of 10.1.1.13 on my LAN. It's
wired but it shares the same network space as wireless clients via my Orcon
Genius router.

I noticed on my Ubuntu laptop I could "ping riwaka" and I get a response
from it. On a Windows PC through it can't resolve "riwaka". Both the Ubuntu
and Windows PC's are DHCP-configured.

At first I figured that it was the router doing the name resolution as it
as the DNS server that is specified in the DHCP response but in the router
config it lists DHCP clients of which "riwaka" is notably absent:

10.1.1.2 name=android_b41ab12268964a9a
10.1.1.3 name=android-fafb23eb66e2912b
10.1.1.4 name=GuruBobs-iPod
10.1.1.5 name=android-5b740b7e8555ac05
10.1.1.7 name=toshtop
10.1.1.8 name=
10.1.1.6 name=Loopys-iPod
10.1.1.9 name=squee
10.1.1.10 name=SnOOpS-iPhone
10.1.1.12 name=OPOHOPC
10.1.1.15 name=PAVILION
10.1.1.19 name=hpbook
10.1.1.20 name=Opoho-PC

Presumably this is a list of DHCP clients that have been seen at some point
so they can be consistently given the same IP address.

Anyway - my question is - how come my Ubuntu machine can resolve "riwaka"
to 10.1.1.13?

Cheers,

- Bob -
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Re: Debian release tea party

Chris Bannister — 2013-05-06T04:51:32

Found this:
http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.0.0-i386-rescue+nonfree.iso

Seems a bit weird to have a special rescue DVD, and at only 758M (seems
like a waste of a DVD to me).

Ahh! thats right, you can:
wget
"http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.0.0-i386-rescue+nonfree.iso"

then

dd if=debian-live-7.0.0-i386-rescue+nonfree.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=2048

(not sure if the bs=2048, is correct/necessary)

where sdx is your unwanted USB stick, you should then be able to boot
from the USB stick. I think F12 brings up the boot options screen?

This, of course, assumes you have a working Linux system; which seems
unlikely if you are wanting a rescue disk. :(

Re: Debian release tea party

Philip Charles — 2013-05-06T03:19:04

I know that is what Debian has said, but I have a Wheezy/Win 8 dual boot 
machine.  How can this be if Wheezy does not support secure boot?

Brain wave!?  The Linux Foundation has developed a loader that will load a 
Linux system onto a secure boot machine.  But this loader buypasses all 
the protections offered by secure boot and the installed system is just as 
exposed as if it were running with the trad bios.

Initially the installation has to be ok'ed by a present user, but once the 
initial permission has been given then subsiquent boots can be automated.

I wonder if Debian is using 'secure boot' in the sense of an install 
system protected by secure boot.  Must check.

Phil.

Phil.

Re: Debian release tea party

Chris Bannister — 2013-05-06T02:36:09

http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504

'In addition, for the first time, Debian supports installation and
booting using UEFI for new 64-bit PCs (amd64), although there is no
support for "Secure Boot" yet.'

Re: Debian release tea party

Chris Bannister — 2013-05-06T02:33:58

IIRC, there is a rescue mode builtin to the installer, at least in
previous installers. 

It is a bit misleading at first; you think you are going to reinstall,
but it eventually comes to an option to fix/reinstall grub.

Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Re: Debian release tea party

Jim Cheetham — 2013-05-05T21:35:12

That's not a Secure Boot if you're doing it from a traditional BIOS
machine. Secure Boot is when the PC hardware will only boot with UEFI
instead of the old BIOS methods ... and the UEFI environment is locked
down with only Microsoft's keys in it.

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Re: Debian release tea party

Jim Cheetham — 2013-05-05T21:32:54

I spent the afternoon trying to 'fix' my over-complicated desktop
machine after a double upgrade from Ubuntu left it reeling ... now I
have what appears to be a nice shiny Debian 7 but a thoroughly broken
Grub rescue> prompt and I can't coax it into life at all. Guess I'll
have to get a liveCD from somewhere and have another go, the installer
image doesn't give me quite enough to figure out how to fix the
problem ...

-jim

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Re: Debian release tea party

Philip Charles — 2013-05-05T06:18:07

Sorry about no show. Body welcomed home to Araiteuru this afternoon.

What's this about Debian Wheezy not hving secure boot!  I have it dual 
booting with Windows 8!!

Phil.

Debian release tea party

Alex King — 2013-05-04T22:52:22

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I'm having a Debian release tea-party, if you want to chat about Debian
or anything related on a rainy day, come on up and join me at 3pm.

What: Debian release tea-party
Where: 60 Helensburgh Road, Wakari
When: 3-5pm today, Sunday.

RSVP appreciated.

You may know that today is the planned release date when testing
(wheezy) becomes the new stable version (7.0).  Due to our timezone, I
suspect it may not actually be released by 3pm, but we can celebrate
anyway.  If we run out of interesting conversation, we can listen to
National Radio or something (broadband is dodgy so youtube is
disappointing.)

Not much snack food here so bring your own if you want.

Some would say it's short notice, but it's more than 14400 seconds, so I
don't want any complaints :)

Cheers,
Alex

PS. other release parties http://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyWheezy
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Free distros for new users

Danyl Strype — 2013-05-02T05:04:44

Kia ora koutou

I've tried a few more distros since Jan. I've been working my way
through the handful of distros endorsed by the FSF, to see if any of
them are usable as a day-to-day desktop OS. some of them are pretty
much useless, or at least so raw that they only usable by confident
GNU/Linux geeks:
http://tinyurl.com/bp3affg

Trisquel is the pick of the bunch so far. I've had a few minor niggles
with it on my netbook, but I'm looking forward to testing it on my
desktop when I get home.

I've also been looking into distros which are built around the
Enlightenment desktop. The only one I've actually tried so far is
Bodhi, which I see as more of a proof-of-concept distro than a
production one at this stage. I do like what I've seen of
Enlightenment so far though, it's leaner than XFCE (which was already
starting to bloat the last time I tried it as well as being ugly and
confusing), and gives LXDE a run for its money in performance and
stability, as well as being prettier than the LXDE distros I've tried
(Peppermint, Lubuntu, Triquel-Mini). Again, I'm looking forward to
trying it out on the desktop.

I feel some hesitation to bring this topic up again. I think that's an
undesirable chilling effect of the original discussion being framed as
a "flamewar". My posts on the subject may not have been "non-violent"
enough for Alex' needs, but I feel I made more effort than some to
maintain a neutral tone, and to back up my arguments.

Alex, I accept that "unethical" is a judgement, that's why I qualified
it by inserting the words "I believe" immediately before it, rather
than stating it as a self-evident fact. Also, I believe I stated my
needs in the email that started the whole discussion. I need Ubuntu to
regain my trust by owning the trademarks to their own name, making an
effort to be more responsive to their developer and user community,
and dealing with the UbuntuOne and Amazon-lens issues (I went into
detail in later emails about how I felt those needs would best be
met). Failing that, I need a new GNU/Linux distro to replace Ubuntu.

He mihi nui
Strypey

--
Danyl Strype
Community Developer
Disintermedia.net.nz/strype

"Geeks are those who partake in our culture."
- .ISOcrates

"Uncomfortable alliances are not just necessary; they reflect and
speak to the tremendous possibility of our political moment."
- Harmony Goldberg and Joshua Kahn Russell
http://www.nationofchange.org/new-radical-alliances-new-era-1337004193

"Both Marxists and Chicago-school libertarian economists can agree
that free software is the best model."
- Keith C Curtis
http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?page_id=407

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Re: dunlug tonight?

Philip Charles — 2013-04-24T08:00:14

Just got home.  Making some progress with  booting Linux with secure boot 
enabled.

Phil.

Re: dunlug tonight?

Geoff Barkman — 2013-04-24T07:34:16

You are early :)

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Re: dunlug tonight?

joe skinner — 2013-04-24T07:12:46

Am I early or is everyone else late?
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Re: dunlug tonight?

Kathinka — 2013-04-24T04:15:27

I turned up at the usual time - my time i.e. an hour late - last time.
 Proceeded to Tonic for the music so it was worth getting cleaned up &
changing out of gardening clothes :)

Will try to get there but have same prob as Joe re couch, esp when
woodburner is going.

Kathinka.

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