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Re: Opinions?

William Attwood — 2008-05-16T04:38:53

The Chumby is actually a nice versatile toy if you enjoy hacking. Linux Journal did a write-up on it a few months back, so I did a quick Google search and found this quick article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/chumby-redux Enjoy, and don't bash the Chumby. ;) -Will On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, barsalou attglobal.net> wrote:

Re: Opinions?

barsalou — 2008-05-16T00:45:59

Quoting Larry Collier medease.com>: Now your talking Larry. If I can figure out the virtual chumby...then I could determine if it would be worth the $180. But like you I can't see it. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: Opinions?

Larry Collier — 2008-05-16T00:24:36

Accelerometer recognizes when you whack it so it can stop bugging you -- for a while anyway. If they lowered the price to 50-60 dollar range I'd buy one just so I can program multiple alarms for myself. Anyone who has problems getting moving in the morning could use that. Dedicate one of the usbs to a standard keyboard? The sight also mentions "virtual chumbys" -- do they run on my desktop screen? Larry On Thursday 15 May 2008 15:36:39 Aaron A. wrote:

Re: Opinions?

Neil Moomey — 2008-05-16T00:13:46

You'll find no opinions with this group. :-) You can keep your Chumby. My clock works just fine and all I do is turn it off and go back to bed anyways. Neil

Re: Opinions?

Aaron A. — 2008-05-15T23:36:39

I've often said that the average user doesn't need much computing power. If all they're doing is writing e-mails and buying stuff online, they could get by with a super-bare-bones computer and a lightweight OS that points the user to his/her frequently-used applications. If not for its horrible interface and /optional/ keyboard, the WebTV concept might have actually worked out. chumby* seems to be the latest incarnation of that concept. Be nice if it had a keyboard, though; even a Chiclet-sized pop-out keyboard would be helpful for returning messages. That, I think, would be a great selling point for social networking addicts. I have to wonder, though, why chumby's standard features include an accelerometer. Do they expect people to use chumby as a weapon? [http://store.chumby.com/ , under "chumby specs"] -- A. * All lowercase branding? That's almost as played-out as corporations who don't put any SpacesInTheirName. barsalou attglobal.net> wrote: Anyone have opinions on this thing? http://www.chumby.com/ Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. --------- To unsubscribe, send email to with 'unsubscribe' in the message body.

a VPS

barsalou — 2008-05-15T23:22:58

The folks at ACS have allowed us to have a VPS. Chris Beck of the list has graciously offered to put a team together to create a website for the group. We talked about putting a group of folks together to do this. Those of you interested (skilled or not) please contact Chris at cbeck747< at >gmail.com or through the list. This hasn't been completely flushed out, so nothing is in stone here. We'll keep the current minimal website until the group has had a chance to put together some ideas on how the website might look and what we should include. All reasonable ideas are welcome. This is your chance to participate in putting a good face on AKLUG. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

xorg.conf

barsalou — 2008-05-15T23:16:14

So during the presentation, folks commented that their particular xorg.conf files don't have all the entries that I talked about during the presentation. All this means is that those particular settings were autodetected and giving a look through Xirg.0.log will identify how things are set for your particular setup. Also, it doesn't preclude you from specifically setting those values in the event you want to goof around with how your video works. From what I can determine, most of the autodetect things are coming from version 7.3. In my particular case, we are using 7.2. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: Opinions?

Corey Weiss — 2008-05-15T21:34:58

A bit pricey, corny and limited. Reminds me of the Kindle. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008

Opinions?

barsalou — 2008-05-15T20:50:41

Anyone have opinions on this thing? http://www.chumby.com/ Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Job Openings

barsalou — 2008-05-15T20:20:28

I dropped off some AKLUG fliers at the school Office on Northern Lights and while I was there, I checked in at HR and ran across these two job listings: Programmer - PVA Number:108692 http://www.asdk12.org/depts/hr/ViewDetails.asp?Scope=External&PVAID=108692 Library Information Systems - PVA Number: 109525 http://www.asdk12.org/depts/hr/ViewDetails.asp?Scope=Internal&PVAID=109525 It's possible that the second one is actually an internal listing, but it is on their website. Maybe someone would want to take a stab at one of these. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: Microsoft GPO and SELinux

barsalou — 2008-05-15T15:57:50

Quoting David Edge alaska.net>: This was laughable. They aren't doing a feature to feature comparison. On might draw the =20 incorrect conclusion that you can't do near as much with SELinux that =20 you can do with the Windows Group policy. Honestly, because the two OS's are so different, you wouldn't use =20 SELinux to do some of the things they are doing with the Group Policy. So without direct conversation (written or otherwise) it would be hard =20 for someone who did not have an understanding of these two =20 technologies to do a valid comparison. If folks are pointing to this as a good comparison, I would call them =20 a charlatan. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: Microsoft GPO and SELinux

Jon Reynolds — 2008-05-15T07:03:35

Consider the source.

Microsoft GPO and SELinux

David Edge — 2008-05-15T06:49:15

Anyone out there familiar with SELinux? Ran across this link in a Microsoft newsletter where they compare Group Policy and SELinux. I thought SELinux restrictions were at a deeper level. Is this a valid comparison? http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8903748 dedge

FIXED. Re: Debian SSH security upgrade breaks SSH!

Joshua J. Kugler — 2008-05-14T19:51:30

Problem fixed. It wasn't my fault (directly) but it wasn't a debian=20 problem either. =46or those who care: after the server was set up (before it was under my=20 control), it was, for a while, pulling from testing repository, and=20 along the way got a version of openssl installed that appeared to be=20 newer then the version in stable, but of course still had the=20 vulnerability. So, since it was now pulling from stable, the package=20 didn't get upgraded. Pulling and installing openssl, libssl0.9.8 and=20 libssl-dev manually fixed the problem. j =2D-=20 Joshua Kugler Part-Time System Admin/Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ =A0ID 0xDB26D7CE

Debian SSH security upgrade breaks SSH!

Joshua J. Kugler — 2008-05-14T19:25:27

This is both a warning and a cry for help! :) I installed the upgraded SSH packages and it regenerated the SSH keys. =20 Not a big problem, right? Wrong. Even the newly generated keys are on=20 the blacklist, AND the server will not connect with keys that are on=20 the blacklist, so no new connections can be created. So, existing=20 connections are OK, but don't logout, or you'll never get back in. Anyone have a fix yet? j =2D-=20 Joshua Kugler Part-Time System Admin/Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ =A0ID 0xDB26D7CE

Friday Night Linux presentation

barsalou — 2008-05-13T21:05:42

I think there were about 6+ people at the presentation. It seemed to go very well, and because X is a pretty big subject, it was mostly just an overview of the xorg file and a few of the utilities. Hopefully one of the attendees will have something to say about what they got out of it. So unless someone specifically disagrees with me...it went awesome, without any flaws and everyone learned all they could.......(wink, wink, nudge, nudge) Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Anchorage School District

barsalou — 2008-05-13T21:01:23

I recently had a chance to talk with some of the leadership at ASD. =20 We are working to put flyers into the schools and to possibly allow us =20 to speak at the High Schools about Linux and Open Source. Because it is so late in the year, This may only have effect next year =20 as school starts. The seed is planted and we will see if it can grow. Additionally, I heard that they are looking at the ASUS eepc. I had a =20 chance to play with one of these and suggested that if the ASD needed =20 help with configuring these in a special way, that AKLUG would be =20 willing to see what we could do to help. I also ran into an Elementary Ed technical person and she had recently =20 been doing research into using some of the educational software =20 packages available for linux. We also discussed the idea of using LiveCD's so that folks could at =20 least experience Linux without having to worry about destroying data =20 that might be on the machine they are using. So lots of interesting things happening in the school district, I'm =20 looking forward to what might come out of all this. Keep your eyes and ears open for a way for us to help. Mike B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Debian security alert for SSH

2008-05-13T20:13:14

Better fix this one, only affects Debian and derivatives. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.security.announce/1614

19" CRT for Sale

Lee Brumbaugh — 2008-05-12T19:32:11

All, I bought a new 22" flat panel for my desktop and have a 19" CRT for sale. Good condition, only a view years old. Was thinking $50, or best offer. Oh, and I can post a pic if people are interested. Thanks, Lee _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008

AKLUG Monthly Presentation

barsalou — 2008-05-09T22:54:25

Here are my talking points for tonight. Since this will be a loose =20 discussion more than a presentation, I won't have any handouts. Documentation: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html Possible things to try: man xorg.conf Need an Inputdevice section for both mouse and keyboard xorg -probeonly xorg -configure xorg -scanpci scanpci|lspci xdpyinfo X -showDefaultModulePath X -showDefaultLibPath pkg-config --variable=3Dmoduledir xorg-server pkg-config --variable=3Dlibdir xorg-server ServerLayout ----> Input Devices ----> Output Devices Screen ----> Device ----> Monitor Other Commands to investigate: xrdb -merge /your/resource/file xset gtf xmodmap xman xsm xprop Possibly helpful links: man pages for above mentioned commands http://www.linux.com/feature/118108 http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/XWindow-User-HOWTO.html#toc8 http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/XDM-Xterm.html http://www.rahul.net/kenton/bib.html http://xwinman.org/intro.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System_protocols_and_architecture http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/doc.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: ACS to build cable link to Oregon

Jim Gribbin — 2008-05-09T20:37:03

I guess I missed that. Last I knew Rich McKinney, Dee's brother that works at the Kodiak Launch Facility and that used to hang out with us, was crying for bandwidth. Kingry, Shane wrote: