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Re: BSD Overview Preso

Brett — 2012-05-25T01:40:33


Hi Jim, 

Maybe a typo in the page 10, OpenBSD has more like 10-30 commits per day, for the monthly numbers see:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&r=1&w=2

I think DragonflyBSD's is not as high as shown, either:
http://marc.info/?l=dragonfly-commits&r=1&w=2

Cool and interesting slides!

Another commercial user (of FreeBSD) is Sony in the Playstation 3 OS:

http://www.netresec.com/?page=Blog&month=2011-01&post=DFRWS-2009-Network-Forensics

Brett.

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Isaac Levy — 2012-05-24T12:25:38


Best of luck with the presentation Jim, this slide deck is really excellent!

Best,
.ike

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Jim B. — 2012-05-23T22:16:04

* Jim B. <jpb< at >jimby.name> [2012-05-23 15:06]:



The revised preso is at http://www.jimby.name/bsdov/bsdov.pdf

It's now a link to the latest verion (bsdov_02.pdf).


Many thanks for your help folks.  The talk is tomorrow.

All errors are still my own!


I'll leave the preso up for a few days.  More feedback is
always welcome.


Cheers,
Jim B.

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Jim B. — 2012-05-23T21:11:55

* mikel king <mikel.king< at >olivent.com> [2012-05-23 16:02]:

Good idea.  Done.

Ditto.


Thanks,
Jim B.

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Jim B. — 2012-05-23T21:05:35

* Rick Aliwalas <rick< at >aliwalas.com> [2012-05-23 15:29]:

Fixed.  Thanks!

Jim B.

Re: BSD Overview Preso

George Neville-Neil — 2012-05-23T20:14:53

On May 23, 2012, at 16:02 , mikel king wrote:



Yup, this looks good.  Quick note, the FreeBSD core team is 9 people and a secretary who is selected
by core but who is not elected.

Best,
George

Re: BSD Overview Preso

mikel king — 2012-05-23T20:02:06

On May 23, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Jim B. wrote:



This is very good. You might want to consider identifying the the BSD projects sections as 'Core' projects or something along those lines because that are several tangent projects like picobsd, midnightbsd etc...

You also might want to include a more descriptive title on slide 25. Something like: Commercial adaptations or projects derived from BSD...

The original Iomega NAS devices were based on FreeBSD 4.3. I don't recall if they had a schnazzy name for their OS though.

Cheers,
Mikel

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Raul Cuza — 2012-05-23T19:49:32

Sweet. Thank you for putting this together and sharing!

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jim B. <jpb< at >jimby.name> wrote:

Re: BSD Overview Preso

Rick Aliwalas — 2012-05-23T19:29:14

Hi Jim,

I did notice Theo's name should be "Theo de Raadt" instead
of "de Raat".  Maybe mention OpenSSH as a siginificant
contribution by the BSD devs?  OpenBGPD?  Hard thing to
condense but you did a nice job.

-rick


On Wed, 23 May 2012, Jim B. wrote:

BSD Overview Preso

Jim B. — 2012-05-23T19:05:22

Hi All,

The scrubbed preso is at http://www.jimby.name/bsdov/bsdov_01.pdf

All errors are my own :-)



Enjoy,
Jim B.

Facebook, For users with Flash installed

Isaac Levy — 2012-05-21T02:01:52

Hi All,

Fascinating info-porn relating to the Facebook IPO friday:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/05/17/business/dealbook/how-the-facebook-offering-compares.html

(if you look hard, you see wind river systems buried in there, along with every other 'tech' company to IPO).

Pretty strange/obtuse/telling to see companies like Tandem and Cray put in the same chart as Facebook…
(what the heck is a tech IPO anyhow?)

Fascinating info-porn, none the less ideologically flawed.

Rocket-
.ike

Re: 2 Copies of FreeBSD Device Drivers

Matthew Story — 2012-05-18T16:47:07


I have 1 taker so far, is there another brave soul who will answer the call
of a free book?

Re: Request 2 for NYCBUG Help

Jim B. — 2012-05-18T16:27:01

* Jim B. <jpb< at >jimby.name> [2012-05-14 21:33]:

Ok, I've got about 20-25 slides at the moment, which gives
me about 1 minute per slide.  Not bad!

One of the items of interest to this group is how "open
source communities" function.  So, in my Projects slides
I have the following Project outline (FreeBSD shown)

------------------------
FreeBSD 
  - most widely known, solid academic roots, widely
    used in commercial systems, ISPs, large scale systems
  - Research platform for many ideas and protocols

  Main features (comes standard):
    Dtrace, Large Scale SMP support, SMP aware TCP/IP,
    modular TCP congestion algorithms, SIFTR,
    Ipv6 only kernel available, CLANG/LLVM compiler,
    linuxulator  (See also Cool Hot Stuff)

  Community  <----- See below
     many thousands of developers, 
     ~300 committers, ~100-200 commits per day;
     ~100 main projects; ~10 elected core team; 
     Multiple cvs/svn branches, Perforce repo

  Future directions 
    Virtualization, embedded, further enhanced networking

  www.freebsd.org , www.freebsdfoundation.org - 501(c)3 org
------------------------

(Before you launch on "But you didn't include feature X or
platform Y!" - remember, this is the *overview* slide.  I
will also be talking about Cool Hot Stuff in later slides.)

Each BSD will have a Project page similar to the one above.
What I really need from this group is some ballpark
statistics on the "Community" entry for the other BSDs:

  Net   - # devs, # committers, # commits/day, # projects, # core
  Open  ditto
  DFly  ditto

There are folks on this list that know these stats (or can
make up some that sound pretty good :-) )

Please send me some stats.  You can reply to me directly
if you prefer.

Much appreciated!

Jim B.

PS - Yes, I will make this preso available when finished.

NetBSD pkgsrc question

David Billsbrough — 2012-05-17T11:41:16

Hello,

I have used FreeBSD and the ports packages for a while and do upgrades
via portsnap/portupgrade.  Now have another machine
using NetBSD 5.1 and the "pkgsrc" package system.  Am using cvsup to
keep it updated so how do you have the system build all current
packages of interest like FreeBSD's portupgrade?

regards,

David -- KC4ZVW

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

George Rosamond — 2012-05-16T13:20:48

+1 (if we could vote on this :)

g

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

Raul Cuza — 2012-05-16T13:09:47

My 2 cents: less is more. Your agenda looks very interesting and you
could fit it into 20-30 minutes if you don't go very deep into each
item. But if you don't go deep, then you risk not giving the group
enough to chew on. I would try to find 2-3 things I'd want the
audience to walk away with. Once I know what those things are, I'd
figure out some interesting stories that convey them well or perhaps
bring up a controversy that highlights the points. All of this is much
easier said than done.

If they are smart people then they are probably going to prefer
talking about something over just listening. Giving them something to
talk about would be a job well done.

Raúl

P.S. And, from my experience teaching, having an agenda to convey 2-3
things does not mean I don't have 10 other things ready to go in case
the audience already knows those 2-3 things.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Jim B. <jpb< at >jimby.name> wrote:

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

Jim B. — 2012-05-16T12:45:16

* mikel king <mikel.king< at >olivent.com> [2012-05-15 21:35]:
[snip]

LOL - that's funny.  Yeah - I'll just talk **real fast**.  
I'll probably turn blue and pass out :-)

Seriously though - I'm going to practice this one beforehand.
You know, talk to the mirror or something.

I'm also going to bring some materials with me - such as BSDCG
brochures, and some BSD Magazine articles.  That way I can
just mention that people can get more info after the meeting
on certain topics.

And if I don't finish, maybe they'll invite me back for more :-)

Cheers,
Jim B.

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

mikel king — 2012-05-16T01:35:22

On May 14, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Jim B. wrote:


Jim,

I don't remember you going to auctioneer school, how are you going to cover all of this in any sort of meaningful fashion in only 20-30 minutes?

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

George Rosamond — 2012-05-16T01:29:31

you mean like "a unified operating system" as opposed to a "collection 
of things with a kernel that we call a distro"?  yeah, I see your point 
spork!

that's certainly worth a sentence if it's linux v bsd


:)

g

Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

Charles Sprickman — 2012-05-16T01:24:49

On May 15, 2012, at 9:18 PM, George Rosamond wrote:


I have a really hard time seeing how this looks from outside the *BSD world, but the topic of an "OS" vs. "Linux kernel + stuff" and the way that affects your management of the system as a whole always fascinates me.

Does it fit in a 20 minute talk?  Absolutely can't judge that myself.


ditto ditto

C


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Re: Request for NYCBUG Help

George Rosamond — 2012-05-16T01:18:02

I think the gcc replacement stuff is important, but probably not 
relevant for the audience, from what I can tell.  If the licensing 
becomes a point of discussion, sure, but I don't think the clang, pcc, 
etc stuff is priority in 20 mins.


ditto!

g